What's a Little Smog going to Hurt?

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    Shanghai grinds to a halt as smog nears top of air pollution scale | South China Morning Post

    Those fossil fuels just keep on giving, huh?
     
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    Damn incense burners!
     
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    It's not just fossil fuels causing Shanghai's poor air quality.
     
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    This is how we would look like if it wasn't for the EPA and clean air act.
     
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    Or if the Government exempted itself from its own standards when it was THEIR projects.

    See the massive leaking of nuclear waste from the GOVERNMENT nuclear weapons facility. OR the enviro nightmare of our military base pollution.. OR the absolute decrepant state of the TVA dams and coal plants. :eusa_hand:

    Similiar to exempting itself from protecting the very symbol of this nation -- the Bald Eagle.. Just tossed THEM under the bus to meet a politically motivated goal also..

    That's what the deal is in China.. They needed to guarantee MASSIVE amounts of reliable and cheap power in order to capture foreign investment and foreign skill and knowledge. So -- they had the POWER to ignore their own standards and pollution goals..
     
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    Yes, since the EPA and clean water act have not stopped all pollution and has been circumvented by some in government from time to time it has done no good. :eusa_hand:
     
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    If it were left to the GOP, they would gut the EPA and let those smoke stacks begin belching black smoke again. "Back to the Good Old Days"
     
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    I recall the days when black smoke meant there were Americans working at well paying jobs. Then lighter smoke when regulation was at a sane level. Then NO smoke at all but it also meant all the jobs were gone.
     
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    Isn't China the place where all the squawking took place about liberal human rights violations for the last couple of decades? Now everybody owns a car, they're still villains!

    Oh, my aching back.
     
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    You know how we know that's an unfounded assertion, Jim? We were paying attention when Republican President George W. Bush cleaned up all the brownfields and received a unique honor from the group, "Ducks Unlimited" for repairing and saving natural Duck habitats after making them nontoxic duck paradises. He also successfully challenged power generating plants to attach scrubbers to their smokestacks which removed 99.6% of the toxic wastes from going into the air. Surprised? Of course you are. The Democrat Press kept it very, very quiet by ignoring everything good that he did, including environment cleanup the government didn't have to pay for since industries willingly volunteered to do this necessary task of being a good business neighbor.

    Edit: Oh, yes, and incentives to do right environmentally are a lot cheaper than suing a company out of existing and throwing anywhere from 500 to 50,000 well-paid employees out of their jobs.
     
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