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    Reduce the cost of health insurance for all workers, employers, and purchasers of individual insurance without reducing benefits

    Increase the number insured

    Give people more choices in healthcare coverage

    And NO:
    Government mandates

    Change in quality of service

    Change required in current insurance or doctors

    Changes to the ACA
     
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    It's called the "free market"....The only thing that isn't being tried.
     
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    Since a free market in healthcare would delivery the best healthcare to the wealthy and no healthcare to those who had nothing, it would certainly result in reduction of benefits. So it would not meet the requirements of system I described.
     
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    Lying demagogue.

    In 1943, it cost the equivalent of $500 to have a hospital birth....The costs of all other medical expenses would drop through the floor were medical services returned to the free market....The best examples of this are Lasik and elective cosmetic surgery.
     
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    And infant mortality was 5 times as great as it is today. Techniques and drug developed over the last 60 years have significantly reduced both the danger of child birth and the pain.

    The 1943 cost of child of birth, $500 is $7346 in today's dollars. The national average cost of childbirth today is $10,808. I wonder how many women today would chose the 1943 childbirth with 5 times the risk of death to the baby, more danger and pain for the mother to save $3462. I suspect about zero.
     
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    No, fool...The cost in today's dollars is around $500...Try reading for comprehension.

    In any event, all of today's astronomical costs are under the context of massive gubmint intervention in the marketplace...Is all that supposed to be evidence of success?...An indicator that even more meddling tinkering is called for?

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    For a birth in a hospital to cost $500 today doctors and anesthesiologist would have to be making less than plumbers, nurses minimum wage and hospital room the cost of hotel rooms, delivery rooms would be free as well as electronic fetal monitoring, ultrasonography, blood pressure screening, maternal/fetal pulse oximetry, and infusion pumps, all other diagnostic tests as well as all specialist required. Of course the salaries would be so low in healthcare, there would be no doctors or nurses.
     
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    If it's not changing the ACA, then it has government mandates. So, given that your plan has at least one internal contradiction (there are others), it isn't viable.
     
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    Get the govt out of healthcare. Not only is it unconstitutional, it also caused our healthcare cost crisis.
    It blows my mind how people want to give more power to the people that screwed it up in the first place!
     
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    Yeah. I don't get it either. It's like they want everything to be a matter of politics - everything subject to majority rule.
     
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