What will happen if we stay in Iraq?

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    We will continue to loose five or six of America's finest everyday until a Democrat is elected president in 2008 and Dems further strengthen their hold on Congress and basically send the Republican party into extinction or at least a long hibernation.

    The Democratic President and the Congress will immediately begin withdrawing troops from this quagmire.

    Iraq will degenerate into a decade long bloodbath even worse than it is now.

    Republicans will circulate more intense propaganda about how the Democrats and liberals "lost the war."

    The terrorism generated by Bush's childish, mindless, psychopathic policies will come home to roost and of course Republicans will try to shirk the blame as usual and blame it all on Democrats.

    Nobody within the Bush crime syndicate will ever be held accountable for all the needlessly dead American soldiers, the ruination of a country, the murdered Iraqi civilians, or the increased threat to America's security that they are responsible for.

    Business will click along as usual here in the good old U.S. of A and Conservatives will huddle once again in the dark corners of American politics like the cockroaches that they are and start planning their next coup to usurp our Constitution.
     
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    In no small part because of the Congressional leadership being afraid to do what they claim to want to do, pull the troops without CIC approval.

    At the same time, they provide comfort to the enemy, while providing no aid and comfort to American troops.
     
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    come on...."comfort" to the enemy was pretty narrowly defined back in the day that the constitution was written. It involved physical comfort... a bed, a meal, a place to hide.... to extend that today to suggest that the exercise of free speech here in America somehow "comforts" our enemies in Iraq is a redefinition of the term to the point of absurdity. To suggest that those of us who dissent from the pResident's stupid war are "comforting the enemy" is as foolish as saying that, back in 1976, when Jimmy Carter admitted to "lusting for other women in his heart", that such admission was synonymous with an admission of "rape".

    Words have meaning. Phrases in law have meaning backed up with precedence. To claim that arguing against this war is "providing aid and comfort" to our enemies is not only inaccurate, it is grossly insulting. Please cease and desist from such libelous statements in the future.
     
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    You've got it backwards Kathianne. The CIC acts only with the approval of Congress, not the other way around. This is especially applicable when you're dealing with a CIC who has never seen a day of actual combat in his pathetic, sheltered, little joke of a life and who surrounds himself with advisors who were just as successful at avoiding combat as he was.

    Add to this the fact that IF he was even legitimately elected at all both times it was by the slimmest of margins and he's bucking people in Congress who are seasoned war veterans and you've got to ask yourself, who has more credibility here....Congress or Herr Bush?


    How so?

    Please be specific.
     
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    At that time their words and actions were not broadcast simultaneously across the world to the ears of the enemy. Saying that no comfort can be derived from the fact that you know that your efforts to effect the will of a nation in which you are battling using Fourth Gen Warfare techniques is successful is a bit insulting there, maineman. It flies in the face of logic. Knowing what you are doing is working clearly can provide comfort to the enemy.
     
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    bullshit. words are not comfort. speech is free. People who supported this chimpanzee of a president and this terribly counterproductive bloody costly war and who NOW claim that those of us who disagree with it and express our disagreement are traitors can all go fuck themselves. We'll have a civil war in THIS country before I ever sit back and watch patriotic dissent punished as treason. And I am not kidding. I will take up arms against the American government that imprisons citizens for speaking their dissent.
     
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    Obviously without funding, which the Democrats are denying, under any guise, the CIC is indeed a paper tiger, just what you want.

    Just for a reminder, where we were and where we are, until this impasse:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091001204.html

    http://www.outsidethewire.com/blog/outside-the-wire/tribal-mojo-part-ii.html

     
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    You are deluding yourself if you think that the actions of those Americans that seek to flee do not give comfort to the enemy. Setting a date certain for withdrawal from Iraq is precisely what the terrorists have been trying to accomplish. Knowing that they have won this victory from the Democrats must indeed be a great comfort.
     
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    when you want to criminalize speech...when you want to label me a traitor for disagreeing with this stupid counterproductive war, stand by for civil war, asshole.

    in fact... getting us to STAY in Iraq is exactly what the TERRORISTS want...the Iraqis want us to leave. Two entirely different groups of people.
     
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    then how does an army ever withdraw without letting the enemy know?

    in the middle of the night when no one is lookin'?

    how would the military leave without ever telling anyone?

    i don't understand?

    care
     

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