What we've lost in the partisan budget debate

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    Over the past few months as the debt limit debate heated up, both sides have offered a host of meaningful reforms that cross party lines. Instead of getting any of those reforms passed, it appears we will either default or pass a tepid bill full of potential cuts that may or may not occur in future Congresses.

    Meanwhile, we've left the following on the cutting room floor - ideas that many in both parties support:

    1. Cutting government subsidies for profitable private sector oil, agriculture and energy initiatives.

    2. Reforming SS and Medicare to make them sustainable for decades to come.

    3. Reforming the tax code to reduce rates, remove exemptions and create a more efficient tax system.

    4. Cutting spending on unnecessary defense programs.

    I'm sure there are many, many more. What else have we left on the table?

    In the end, we will achieve zero of these things and maintain the decades-long status quo, strictly for partisan political reasons. A massive opportunity lost to the extreme wings of both parties who have pulled their leadership away from the negotiating table and into their ideological corners.
     
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    We do not have a functioning government right now.
     
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    Unfortunately, we haven't really had one in quite some time. This situation really demonstrated that fact - we had a spectacular opportunity to make big changes that both sides agree upon, and it was tossed aside; in large part because neither side wants to be seen agreeing with the other.

    Politics often trumps good policy, but in this case the results are incredibly damaging. The potential reward of collaboration was significant for all Americans.
     
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    Odd that when Bush tried to reform Social Security by allowing people to put a portion of it in a real trust fund he was excoriated, lambasted, pilloried, mocked, ridiculed, derided, denounced, criticized, berated, rebuked, censured, reviled, chastised, condemned, lectured, castigated, upbraided and vilified that he dared to question the sanctity of the Social Security Trust Fund.

    Al Gore called it a "Risky scheme" to let people keep some of their own money.

    Yeah, we lost a lot, trillions by my counting, because of Dem demagoguery.
     
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    show me one bill submitted by Bush to reform SS?
     
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    Are you denying Bush suggested partial privatization of Social Security?
     
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    a bill?
    Wasn't he the president?

    He made a suggestion to congress but becuase he did not write a bill (do conresses job) then he must not have made the suggestion?

    Ok.
     
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    No offense...but the spin goes both ways.

    The dems and the GOP spoin the intentions of both sides so often, none of us really know what the truth is.

    And the media? Thsy no longer investigate for the truth...they like to report on the sensationalism...

    What sounds better for a news report...

    1) The GOP has an idea that may create millions of jobs
    or
    2) The GOP do not care about the poor. They have an idea that will make the wealthiest even wealthier
     
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    Seems only Al Gore knew about the suggestion.
     
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    You are correct. It is a shame how partisanship is destroying our system.
     

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