What values does Glenn Beck want to return us to?

[Lasher]

Rallies like Beck had are just pity parties for people who because they are rightwingers, are, as history has proven time and again, on the wrong side of history,

and who now, because of the advances in media and communications, can get more people to watch and listen to them whine about it.

Looking back come November, the Party of NO will see Becks gathering as the Goodbye Party.

Considering the last elections, that doesn't make much sense, does it?

 

[MaggieMae]

Faith
Hope
Charity
Humility
Honesty
Integrity
Honor
Hard work
Self-education
Thrift
Industry
Empowerment
Self-government
Self-respect
Personal Responsibility
Self Sacrifice


Want more? I'm sure I could come up with more. Perhaps if you actually listened to Glenn you wouldn't have to ask such obvious questions.

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

Could you please link where you are getting your "FACTS" as to exactly what he has been completely inaccurate about or where he has gone off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can understand?? Otherwise You are giving me your Completely Useless Opinion. I don't have the time or need for Your Opinion.
So when you bring some facts to discuss we can maybe have a conversation.
Until then You Lose Sucker ~

Would you believe Bill Kristol?

Stand for Freedom | The Weekly Standard

So, whatever our differences in historical interpretation or foreign policy tactics, we agree with our skeptical comrade that the United States must support the Egyptian awakening, and has a paramount moral and strategic interest in real democracy in Egypt and freedom for the Egyptian people. The question is how the U.S. government can do its best to help the awakening turn out well.

In his column, Krauthammer refers to the French, Russian, and Iranian revolutions. They all turned out badly. But before 1789 was 1776. After 1917, there was 1989. And after 1979, there was also 2009, when the Obama administration shamefully and foolishly did nothing to help topple the most dangerous regime in the Middle East.

Furthermore, in the last quarter century, there have been transitions from allied dictatorships to allied democracies in Chile, South Korea, the Philippines, and Indonesia, to name only a few. The United States has played a role in helping those transitions turn out (reasonably) well. America needn’t be passive or fretful or defensive. We can help foster one outcome over another. As Krauthammer puts it, “Elections will be held. The primary U.S. objective is to guide a transition period that gives secular democrats a chance.”

Now, people are more than entitled to their own opinions of how best to accomplish that democratic end. And it’s a sign of health that a political and intellectual movement does not respond to a complicated set of developments with one voice.

But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.

Or how about Bill O'Reilly who cornered Beck with questions he couldn't answer?

Bill O

Those are only two of many conservatives who think Glenn Beck has more than just a few screws loose.

 

[Lasher]

What values does Glenn Beck want to return us to?

Preppin' For The Apocalypse; 2.0!!!

Seeing-as-how he's gonna be unemployed, soon, he should interview as a pitchman for Vivos!!

Hell......his script's already written!!!!!​

"People are afraid of the earth-changing events and ripple effects of the earthquake, which led to tsunamis, the nuclear meltdown, and which will lead to radiation and health concerns," said Vivos CEO Robert Vicino. "Where it ends, I don't know. Does it lead to economic collapse? A true economic collapse would lead to anarchy, which could lead to 90% of the population being killed off."

VIVOS; For The Terminally-Paranoid!​

Ol' Glennie-B should consider pitching a line o' treadmills, as well......'cause, you know what HAPPENS to those "conservatives" who retreat to those undisclosed-locations!!!!

Why do people like Glenn Beck, Pat Buchanan, Rush Lmbaugh, etc. scare you leftist socialists so much?

 

[MaggieMae]

You have to watch this in full screen
then tell me .... Is this what you are striving for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6IqHnW4Lnk

What does that have to do with anything here? It's already been shown all over cable television all day. Some bitch got pissed at a hamburger joint, Somewhere USA. Big Fucking Deal.

 

[Lasher]

Yanno, I asked the same thing and never could get an answer from repubs. I think they don't even know what values he represents because when I asked I was told to watch the entire rally to find out. The funny thing about it is they responded over and over to insult people who asked while claiming they didn't have the time to tell anyone what values or what they mean by "taking their country back" or what they were taking it back from

If you don't know what values he represents, your opposition to them seems somewhat misplaced. Why not watch him and find out for yourself? I think he's talking about "taking our country back" from the idiots who voted for, and still idolize Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[Lasher]

Beck's only value is greed.

How so?? Please elaborate. Do you think he shouldn't be paid for working?

 

[Lasher]

Looking back come November, the Party of NO will see Becks gathering as the Goodbye Party.

I guess you were away, but the last November election resulted in a huge sea change in Congresss.

I better not tell you how that worked out.

To be fair, he didn't know what was going to happen in November back in August.

Why shouldn't he have known? Everyone else did.

 

[MaggieMae]

Faith
Hope
Charity
Humility
Honesty
Integrity
Honor
Hard work
Self-education
Thrift
Industry
Empowerment
Self-government
Self-respect
Personal Responsibility
Self Sacrifice


Want more? I'm sure I could come up with more. Perhaps if you actually listened to Glenn you wouldn't have to ask such obvious questions.

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

Actually you are just to feeble minded to follow along and connect the dots.
Thats Ok .

HEY HYSTERICAL BECK & BLAZE READERS PIVEN‘S SOCIALIST PAL SAYS SHE WAS JUST ASKING WHY AMERICANS ARE PROZAC POPPING WUSSES WHO WON’T RIOT LIKE EUROPEANS WHILE PIVEN DETAILS HER PART IN ANTI-CAPITALISM PLAN

You like to rely on YouTube to make your points? Try a YouTube search for "Lies of Glenn Beck" and watch and/or read the comments for each video.

 

[MaggieMae]

Over five hours of television programming and fifteen hours of radio programming plus numerous guest appearances here and there and prolific writings, Beck uses numerous illustrations to make his point and explain his point of view.

But his message is consistent and can be boiled down to the bare essentials as. . . .

The United States of America was founded by mostly men of faith who believed in basic natural unalienable rights as God given. These were described in the Declaration of Independence as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

The Founders envisioned a new nation built upon the principle of unalienable rights and in which the people would not be subject to a dictator, king, monarch, feudal lord, or authoritarian government that would choose what rights the people would or would not have. The people would be declared to already have those rights and would be the first people on Earth who would have their unalienable rights secured and then be free to govern themselves in any way they saw fit.

The U.S. Constitution was written and ordered and approved to create and protect just such a people/nation.

In time the people would come to see that the Constitution did not extend equal protection to all, and they amended the original Constitution to extend unalienable rights to former slaves, women, and all others, but the original core basic principle was not changed.

The principle produced the greatest, most free, most benevolent, most productive nation the world has ever known.

Beck now focuses on those who would change that original core principle and replace it with a government that emulated the old style dictator, monarch, feudal lord, authoritarian structure that would assign what rights the people would or would not be allowed to have and that would extend to all that the people are and all that they own and the people would no longer be allowed to govern themselves as they saw fit.

Beck sees that we are in danger of losing the greatest nation the world has ever know and returning to a world in which unalienable rights do not exist.

All that he speaks, teaches, or promotes points to that principle.

Sure.

 

[Lasher]

He wants us to return to the days of the robber barons were working people were nothing more than a commodity with little to no rights to be used up and spit out.

Anyone with half a brain knows that will never happen, and you are being disingenious to say so. But you do talk a good commie line.

 

[Lasher]

Looking back come November, the Party of NO will see Becks gathering as the Goodbye Party.

I guess you were away, but the last November election resulted in a huge sea change in Congresss.

I better not tell you how that worked out.

Unknowns can change that on a dime, and you know it. But I am curious what YOU think that "huge sea change" has actually accomplished of real importance so far.

Isn't it interesting that the same ball is now back in the Republican court? All I saw when the Dems took over in 07 and Obama began his job in 09 was "WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOMETHING???" Well?

But being a common-sense person, I know that "doing something" takes time, even for Republicans. Imagine that.

It's hard for the House to do anything when whatever they do is subject to the demo Senate's disapproval.

 

[Lasher]

2012 is right around the bend... We shall see who is on what side of history. I'm thinking the Democrats will be "history" (sic)...

And I'd like a dollar for every time I've heard that.

Then you are either cheap or you spend a lot of time listening to conservatives.

 

[kaz]

Beck's only value is greed.

How so?? Please elaborate. Do you think he shouldn't be paid for working?

Glen Beck is greedy because Salt Jones wants to take his money and he won't give it to him. Can you even imaging anyone more greedy then that?

 

[MaggieMae]

Faith
Hope
Charity
Humility
Honesty
Integrity
Honor
Hard work
Self-education
Thrift
Industry
Empowerment
Self-government
Self-respect
Personal Responsibility
Self Sacrifice


Want more? I'm sure I could come up with more. Perhaps if you actually listened to Glenn you wouldn't have to ask such obvious questions.

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

I think you purposely try to block out what he is saying.... otherwise you are a complete and utter fool.

Come on Maggie... pay attention, he is telling the truth, and if you can prove him wrong... plaese PM me the info. I would love to see it. (Im being sincere too)

You first. Since you seem to understand (and believe) him, then you provide me with an explanation. I know what I hear. I know my history. His convoluted assessment is just plain fearmongering in order to maintain his audience of liberal/Obama haters. Sensible, common sense conservatives know that too, and Beck is a huge embarrassment to those who wish to pursue honest debate over foreign policy.

 

[Lasher]

Faith
Hope
Charity
Humility
Honesty
Integrity
Honor
Hard work
Self-education
Thrift
Industry
Empowerment
Self-government
Self-respect
Personal Responsibility
Self Sacrifice


Want more? I'm sure I could come up with more. Perhaps if you actually listened to Glenn you wouldn't have to ask such obvious questions.

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

Are you saying there are no conspiracies? Do you swallow everything you hear from the MSM and the media monopoly? Which of his theories are inaccurate, and how can you show us they are?

 

[Foxfyre]

The one thing MaggieMae and some others keep confusing is that 'conservative' and "Republican" are not synonymous and, while conservatives do agree on the simplest core principle of conservatism which is self governance within the recognition and protection of unalienable rights, there are no two conservatives that agree on the best way or right way to handle every single issue. There are no two conservatives that see every single issue in exactly the same way.

Conservatives can and do disagree and debate each other passionately without abdicating their conservative credentials. Beck and O'Reilly do disagree at times though they are the best of friends and spend a LOT of time together, professionally and socially. No true conservative is going to be assigned talking points to say, be told what to believe, or feel he or she has to march in lockstep with the consensus of the day or the politically correct stance of the day.

People are conservative because they've arrived at a particular point of view and not because they've picked a side or agreed to accept what they've been told.

And even when they disagree they may neither be necessarily wrong,

At least one person who agrees with me on that:

On his radio show Monday, Glenn Beck hit back hard at Bill Kristol over comments Kristol made in a recent column.

"People like Bill Kristol ... I don't think they stand for anything anymore," said Beck. "All they stand for is power. They'll do anything to keep their little fiefdom together, and they'll do anything to keep the Republican power entrenched."

Beck was responding to a Weekly Standard column Kristol recently authored, which said:

When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He's marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

In my opinion, Beck and Kristol are both advocating reasonable positions. Kristol believes conservatives should back those seeking freedom in the streets, while Beck believes a revolution will most likely lead to Islamists gaining power. Neither of those are absurd opinions -- but they most certainly are emotional.
Glenn Beck Hits Back at Bill Kristol Over Egypt

 

[BluesMistress]

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

Could you please link where you are getting your "FACTS" as to exactly what he has been completely inaccurate about or where he has gone off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can understand?? Otherwise You are giving me your Completely Useless Opinion. I don't have the time or need for Your Opinion.
So when you bring some facts to discuss we can maybe have a conversation.
Until then You Lose Sucker ~

Would you believe Bill Kristol?

Stand for Freedom | The Weekly Standard

So, whatever our differences in historical interpretation or foreign policy tactics, we agree with our skeptical comrade that the United States must support the Egyptian awakening, and has a paramount moral and strategic interest in real democracy in Egypt and freedom for the Egyptian people. The question is how the U.S. government can do its best to help the awakening turn out well.

In his column, Krauthammer refers to the French, Russian, and Iranian revolutions. They all turned out badly. But before 1789 was 1776. After 1917, there was 1989. And after 1979, there was also 2009, when the Obama administration shamefully and foolishly did nothing to help topple the most dangerous regime in the Middle East.

Furthermore, in the last quarter century, there have been transitions from allied dictatorships to allied democracies in Chile, South Korea, the Philippines, and Indonesia, to name only a few. The United States has played a role in helping those transitions turn out (reasonably) well. America needn’t be passive or fretful or defensive. We can help foster one outcome over another. As Krauthammer puts it, “Elections will be held. The primary U.S. objective is to guide a transition period that gives secular democrats a chance.”

Now, people are more than entitled to their own opinions of how best to accomplish that democratic end. And it’s a sign of health that a political and intellectual movement does not respond to a complicated set of developments with one voice.

But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.

Or how about Bill O'Reilly who cornered Beck with questions he couldn't answer?

Bill O

Those are only two of many conservatives who think Glenn Beck has more than just a few screws loose.

You really need to keep up with what's happening in the Real World. The world has changed since Feb. Here are a few links as to what is actually happening in the world today.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/weekinreview/20proxy.html?_r=1

The Bahrain crisis and its regional dangers | The Middle East Channel

Adrian Hamilton: The end of the world as we know it - Adrian Hamilton, Commentators - The Independent

Commentary: The Coming Shia War | The National Interest

The world economy: From tsunamis to Typhoons | The Economist

Read up some before sending me old crap links..........

 

[MaggieMae]

Why do people like Glenn Beck, Pat Buchanan, Rush Lmbaugh, etc. scare you leftist socialists so much?

Leave Pat Buchanan out of your list of loony conservative pundits please. And the only reason the loons *scare* me is that they have some mystical ability to draw in way too many people, which speaks to the level of intelligence anymore which is usually accomplished by education and the ability to recognize the difference between fact and embellished fact, or in Beck's case, pure fiction.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Beck all but admitted he is just out for the money in a Forbes interview.

He tailors his message around his few remaining advertisers.

He misleads his audience with half-truths, lies of omission and wild conspiratorial theories.

... and now he seems to fancy himself as a prophet.

 

[MaggieMae]

Yanno, I asked the same thing and never could get an answer from repubs. I think they don't even know what values he represents because when I asked I was told to watch the entire rally to find out. The funny thing about it is they responded over and over to insult people who asked while claiming they didn't have the time to tell anyone what values or what they mean by "taking their country back" or what they were taking it back from

If you don't know what values he represents, your opposition to them seems somewhat misplaced. Why not watch him and find out for yourself? I think he's talking about "taking our country back" from the idiots who voted for, and still idolize Barack Hussein Obama.

Oh dear, that's not how Foxfyre describes him.

"Idolizing" Obama? He still enjoys high job approval from millions, not just a few. The latest polls on his handling of Libya show an overwhelming approval. The fact that some people hate Obama is a moot point.