CDZ What to take seriously from Trump?

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  1. Lastamender
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    I suggest you don't worry about it.
     
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    Here's the bigger picture in that. If his racist rhetoric is so effective, why spend billions on a wall? Surely there are better present uses of that money, particularly when even the immigration expert whom conservatives love to quote has said repeatedly that the net impact of immigrants' presence in the U.S. is positive not negative. It's not a huge sum, but it is not a net drain.

    I shared this information earlier this year, but it seems it needs to be reiterated.

    GDP is itself a net sum; thus it is either increased or decreased by "whatever," in this case illegal immigration.

    You'll find at the links in this post -- Liberal & Conservative Think Tanks Agree on The Net Economic Impact of Illegal Immigration -- references beyond those linked above.
     
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    How can you accurately measure illegal immigration's effect on net GDP? Do we some means of tracking how much money they send back to Mexico? How especially since so many of them deal in cash? There are so many impossible to track scenarios that have huge impacts on our economy such as an illegal that comes across the border and gives birth to a premature baby. Are those costs captured in this study? All these institute studies are so full of holes, yet they are touted as irrefutable "expert analysis". I beg to differ.
     
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    I did

    I did

    They did for my poor neighbor after the tax rebate.

    Still Obamacare rides the unconstitutional line....then again Presidents have the power to declare war so no republicans are allowed to complain.
     
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    Some might, but American Presidents do not.
     
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    Excellent...thank you.

    A female reporter stated the truth about Trump....
    Here is the story....and the difference between left wing haters, and conservatives who saw him as the last chance to stop the clintons....

    Taking Trump Seriously, Not Literally

    It’s a familiar split. When he makes claims like this, the press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
     
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    Excellent...thanks.
     
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    the only thing I would take seriously from trump are; property investments and who to not hire as a makeup artist.
     
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    It isn't racist. But keep calling him a racist, and his supporters as you do it......and when 2020 comes around, we will enjoy your liberal tears with the rest of the tears of left wing, Anti-American democrats.
     
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    I don't believe anything Trump has to say since he will say anything. Like a good salesman, he'll tell you what you want to hear. If it isn't quite 100% true well, caveat emptor. I think he wanted to be president to prove he could do it, in fact he is still running for president. He obviously enjoys that more than the grind of governing. He would be just as comfortable running as a Dem since he has no ideology.
     

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