What to cut: The Federal Budget

[The Rabbi]

So the Left has basically two strings:
1) The GOP screwed up so don't re-elect them.
2) If they GOP does get in, what are they going to do different?

On 1,while true (the Republicans thought they could become popular by pushing Democratic policies) we see what the Democrats did when they get in office. They turned the second best economy post war into crap and have compounded their mistakes every day. The GOP was thoroughly beaten up in 06 and 08 and even now the party bulls are in fear from Tea Party candidates.

On 2, here's the list from Cato Institute.
Downsizing the Federal Government

 

[8537]

Creating a net -670,000 private sector jobs over an eight year period, leaving office with 780K jobs per month and 7% of GDP per year being lost is the "second best economy post war"?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

So the Left has basically two strings:
1) The GOP screwed up so don't re-elect them.
2) If they GOP does get in, what are they going to do different?

On 1,while true (the Republicans thought they could become popular by pushing Democratic policies) we see what the Democrats did when they get in office. They turned the second best economy post war into crap and have compounded their mistakes every day.

Yeah.....let's totally-ignore The GREATEST Economy This Country's EVER Experienced....thru the use of tax-increaseshttp://www.kellysite.net/taxes.html (the same rates we'll have, after BUSHCO's tax-cuts expire).

 

[DiamondDave]

So the Left has basically two strings:
1) The GOP screwed up so don't re-elect them.
2) If they GOP does get in, what are they going to do different?

On 1,while true (the Republicans thought they could become popular by pushing Democratic policies) we see what the Democrats did when they get in office. They turned the second best economy post war into crap and have compounded their mistakes every day.

Yeah.....let's totally-ignore The GREATEST Economy This Country's EVER Experienced....thru the use of tax-increaseshttp://www.kellysite.net/taxes.html (the same rates we'll have, after BUSHCO's tax-cuts expire).

Stop with your winger links

And as asked of you NUMEROUS times before, asshole troll, explain thru known economic standards how raising taxes improves a private market economy.... you continually ignore the request to prove your point, and you continually ignore and go back to your common troll tactic of posting winger links and little Bush pictures

 

[VaYank5150]

What to cut? I say we start with defense spending. Next?

 

[Titanic Sailor]

Oh boy, the government workers will be pissed at this thread.

 

[8537]

Stop with your winger links

And as asked of you NUMEROUS times before, asshole troll, explain thru known economic standards how raising taxes improves a private market economy.... you continually ignore the request to prove your point, and you continually ignore and go back to your common troll tactic of posting winger links and little Bush pictures

Raising taxes and demonstrating fiscal discipline led to a decline in interest rates on both public and private debt. Lower interest rates incented higher investment.

 

[jillian]

What to cut? I say we start with defense spending. Next?

That would be the only thing to be cut that would actually make a dent.... which is why the pretend rabbi troll and his ilk are so disingenuous....

it's the same old 'let's starve government til you can drown it in a bathtub' garbage that it's always been for the reactionary right.

 

[The Rabbi]

What to cut? I say we start with defense spending. Next?

That would be the only thing to be cut that would actually make a dent.... which is why the pretend rabbi troll and his ilk are so disingenuous....

it's the same old 'let's starve government til you can drown it in a bathtub' garbage that it's always been for the reactionary right.

 

[The Rabbi]

Creating a net -670,000 private sector jobs over an eight year period, leaving office with 780K jobs per month and 7% of GDP per year being lost is the "second best economy post war"?

Try looking at the years BEFORE the Democrats took control of Congress.

 

[8537]

Creating a net -670,000 private sector jobs over an eight year period, leaving office with 780K jobs per month and 7% of GDP per year being lost is the "second best economy post war"?

Try looking at the years BEFORE the Democrats took control of Congress.

Can you tell us which bill the Democrats passed and Bush signed after Jan 2007 that led to the deepest recession since WW2 starting in December of that year?

 

[uscitizen]

That list from Cato is not a cut list, just a whiney blog compilation.

 

[uscitizen]

MMS was started in 1982. Who was president then?
Now Cato says to cut it out.

 

[jillian]

That list from Cato is not a cut list, just a whiney blog compilation.

yeah, but the pathetic little troll boy doesn't know how to differentiate.

lol..

that's why he keeps making himself look stupid.

but i'm generous... i'll assume he really can't help it.

lol...

 

[uscitizen]

The list also makes reference to the Bush tax cuts and how they caused less people to even have to pay any taxes.
Did not sound like Cato was praising the Bush tax cuts.

 

[The Rabbi]

That list from Cato is not a cut list, just a whiney blog compilation.

yeah, but the pathetic little troll boy doesn't know how to differentiate.

lol..

that's why he keeps making himself look stupid.

but i'm generous... i'll assume he really can't help it.

lol...

smelly troll poseur

 

[Dr.Traveler]

The Economy under Bush was not nearly as good as you're trying to make out it was. A lot of good folks lost jobs to outsourcing between 2001-2006. Those jobs never came back, nor did any comparible jobs ever get created. I know folks that had their own house, were saving for college for their kids, made all their payments, etc, that are now lucky to be working at the Walmart and living in an apartment. We bled out a lot of good jobs under Bush/DeLay/Frist.

As for what to cut: Cut military spending by pulling back to the borders. If an overseas base isn't absolutely positively vital to US security, close it and redeploy back home. After you do that, start devolving a lot of the education and welfare programs back to the State level along with the tax revenues to support it. Let the States decide if they want to support Social Security or not. Let them decide on Universal health care or not. 20 years from now lets see which states are doing well: Those that keep those programs or those that do not.

 

[The Rabbi]

Creating a net -670,000 private sector jobs over an eight year period, leaving office with 780K jobs per month and 7% of GDP per year being lost is the "second best economy post war"?

Try looking at the years BEFORE the Democrats took control of Congress.

Can you tell us which bill the Democrats passed and Bush signed after Jan 2007 that led to the deepest recession since WW2 starting in December of that year?

Can you not change the subject when the answer to the question undermines your case?

 

[jillian]

That list from Cato is not a cut list, just a whiney blog compilation.

yeah, but the pathetic little troll boy doesn't know how to differentiate.

lol..

that's why he keeps making himself look stupid.

but i'm generous... i'll assume he really can't help it.

lol...

smelly troll poseur

pound salt, troll...

didn't goldcatt finish you off the other day?

you embarrassment to the right.

the 'smelly' thing is particularly funny from someone sitting in his basement... nice touch...

if you're a 12 year old.

instead of spraying spittle all over, troll boy, try thinking in a linear fashion and actually finishing a coherant thought.

 

[The Rabbi]

The Economy under Bush was not nearly as good as you're trying to make out it was. A lot of good folks lost jobs to outsourcing between 2001-2006. Those jobs never came back, nor did any comparible jobs ever get created. I know folks that had their own house, were saving for college for their kids, made all their payments, etc, that are now lucky to be working at the Walmart and living in an apartment. We bled out a lot of good jobs under Bush/DeLay/Frist.

As for what to cut: Cut military spending by pulling back to the borders. If an overseas base isn't absolutely positively vital to US security, close it and redeploy back home. After you do that, start devolving a lot of the education and welfare programs back to the State level along with the tax revenues to support it. Let the States decide if they want to support Social Security or not. Let them decide on Universal health care or not. 20 years from now lets see which states are doing well: Those that keep those programs or those that do not.

Many other good jobs were created as a result of outsourcing.
The U.S. is a net importer of jobs from other countries outsourcing their own. I realize that doesn't sit well with the Left. But facts is facts.