What The Media Won't Tell You Is Happening In Iraq

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    December of 2011 marked the "official" end of the war in Iraq. All the troops, according to Obama, would be home for the holidays. In fact, not all of them were. Despite his pledge that "the rest of our troops will come home by the end of the year," approximately 4,000 troops were transferred to Kuwait, where they will remain for several more months. Nevertheless, there will still be Americans in Iraq. The U.S. embassy in Baghdad -- the largest embassy in the world -- will retain 16,000 people.

    While many celebrate the official end to a long and costly war, the situation on the ground remains tense. The day after the last American soldiers left Iraq, Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki issued an arrest warrant for the Sunni vice president. In addition, after Saleh al-Mutlaq, a deputy prime minister, called him a "dictator," al-Maliki had the Iraqi parliament hold a vote of no confidence against al-Mutlaq and surrounded his house with tanks. Then, on December 22, four days after the final troops left Iraq, 72 people were killed in bomb attacks. Most recently, on January 5, at least 78 people were killed in yet another string of bombings.

    To all appearances, the hasty Iraqi withdrawal enacted by the Obama administration has created more sectarian violence and political strife than the country has seen in a long time. If things continue to deteriorate, it could spawn a vacuum that would create fertile ground for terrorists and an opportunity for extremists to exploit the floundering democracy. Despite the high stakes, it seems as if our president doesn't want to get involved. We don't hear about him working with the various political factions in Iraq to build a consensus and help stabilize the situation; instead, he has Joe Biden do it. That alone should trouble everyone. Indeed, it seems that our president is once again leading from behind. He is not acting like a commander-in-chief -- he is acting like a panderer-in-chief, pandering to an already cranky left-wing base in an election year in which his chances at a second term are questionable.

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    There will have to be a civil war. We can't afford to nation-build for ever.

    The huge military budget has trippled since Bush II took office.

    We also lost 4,484 soldiers & 1,001 contractors in Iraq alone. Total = 5,485 US citizens killed in Iraq.
    We also lost over 2,000 US citizens in Afghanistan. We have about 40,000 casualties. We will be paying for them for the rest of their lives.

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    It's interesting to flip through the Dept of Defense website. They put up notices as soldier's lose their lives. People are still getting killed in Afghanistan. Don't know how many US citizens are going to have to die before they realize they can't "fix" those countries.
     
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    The withdrawal of American military forces from Iraq has been a contentious issue within the United States since the beginning of the Iraq War. As the war has progressed from its initial 2003 invasion phase to a multi-year occupation, U.S. public opinion has turned in favor of troop withdrawal. As of May 2007, 55 percent of Americans believed that the Iraq war was a mistake, and 51 percent of registered voters favored troop withdrawal.[2] In late April 2007, the U.S. Congress passed a supplementary spending bill for Iraq that sets a deadline for troop withdrawal, but President Bush vetoed this bill soon afterwards.[3][4] All US Forces are mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by December 31, 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush. The U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq was completed on December 18, 2011 early Sunday morning.[5] Immediately, following the departure of American soldiers in Iraq, on December 19th, an arrest warrant was issued for the Sunni Vice-President Al-Hashemi. He has been accused of involvement in assassinations and fled to the Kurdish part of Iraq.
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    Back in December on PBS Newshour it was predicted that in the coming year Obama would distance himself as much as possible from anything which could provide a clip his opponent might be able to use in an ad. He'll delegate as much as he can to his cabinet members and let them make as many of the policy announcements as he can get away with. This wasn't any kind of Fox conspiracy. This was PBS-approved people in the know on Washington ways. Obama the expedient.
     
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    Stable and self-reliant???????

    Okay. Compared to Afghanistan, maybe.

    Btw, Obama tried to talk the Iraqis into not signing the agreement. Do you seriously feel that Obama believes in following the rules when he doesn't want to?

    All Obama is doing is trying to remove irritant issues before the election. Screw it if all of the hard work we've done in Iraq goes to waste. Besides, he can't gut the military while we're still in the middle of two or several very pubic wars. He's currently getting us embroiled in another one in the Sudan, but of course his media won't report on it all that much. Any deaths will have to be swept under the rug till after the election.
     
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    It's just business. I imagine that pisses you idiots off almost as much as me typing "murkin".
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    Obama had no choice but to get our military out of there. He would have kept them there but he was unable to negotiate with the Iraqi leaders to keep them there. The Leaders would not agree to give our military immunity from Iraqi laws. If Bush hadn't put in place a withdrawal date, Obama would still have them in Iraq. And of course he didn't mention that the timeline was put in place by Bush, he wanted all the credit for getting them out of there, even tho he wanted them to stay. And everyone knew what was going to happen as soon as we were gone. We could have stayed there another 10 yrs and it would have made NO difference. We are never going to get rid of the terrorists, they will always want to kill us (and their own people)...
     
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    Anyone with a half a brain knew this was coming. Pretty much the day we left bombings and violence increased. Iraq is/was our next Vietnam.

    edit: And to anyone saying "Obama didn't even take the troops out, there was a set date, he is just trying to take all the credit and look good", NO SHIT. Of course he is going to try and look good with elections coming up. Any politician would do the same and you're smoking crack if you think otherwise.
     
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    The hard work we never should have done...

    Now, if it goes to waste, are we in America to blame? How much more blood and treasure are you willing to throw away on that sand pit? Besides, we are broke remember?
     

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