What the hell is wrong with the GOP?

5stringJeff

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Yesterday, I got home and went through the mail. Among bills and coupons was yet another survey from one of several Republican fundraising committees, asking me my opinion of what Congress should do. An it dawned on me: the GOP has run the House since 1994, and the Senate since 2002. WTF is the GOP doing? Resting on its laurels? We elected the current House members to pass the GOP agenda, not to hobnob in DC and whine about how the terrible minority Democrats are opposing their agenda. So freakin' what? Use the majority you've got and start passing the GOP platform into law!!! :mad: If the GOP had effective leadership, we would have already 1) reformed Social Security, 2) reformed the federal government's role in education, 3) totally revised the tax code, and 4) ended illegal immigration, just to name a few. Instead, I'm getting surveys about how cautiously the GOP should tread!!!

I blame Tom DeLay and Bill Frist for having zero testicles between the two of them. Where are the real leaders in the GOP, and why aren't they stepping up to the plate?!?
 
gop_jeff said:
Yesterday, I got home and went through the mail. Among bills and coupons was yet another survey from one of several Republican fundraising committees, asking me my opinion of what Congress should do. An it dawned on me: the GOP has run the House since 1994, and the Senate since 2002. WTF is the GOP doing? Resting on its laurels? We elected the current House members to pass the GOP agenda, not to hobnob in DC and whine about how the terrible minority Democrats are opposing their agenda. So freakin' what? Use the majority you've got and start passing the GOP platform into law!!! :mad: If the GOP had effective leadership, we would have already 1) reformed Social Security, 2) reformed the federal government's role in education, 3) totally revised the tax code, and 4) ended illegal immigration, just to name a few. Instead, I'm getting surveys about how cautiously the GOP should tread!!!

I blame Tom DeLay and Bill Frist for having zero testicles between the two of them. Where are the real leaders in the GOP, and why aren't they stepping up to the plate?!?

I am so glad that some fellow GOP folk have been expressing their reservations with the tide that has been hitting for almost a year now. Welcome to my world and write to the representatives. For my part, I've already notified Ken Melman that I will not work on suggested campaigns/phone lists, until I see some changes.

I suggest some of you might wish to check out the Porkbusters campaign by bloggers. The savings may be small-but they've already met with some positive responses-nothing like influential readers! (ie. check out the demographics on blog readers). There is also a 'Not one more dime campaign" that is aimed at witholding donations to GOP until they address the issues.
 
gop_jeff said:
Yesterday, I got home and went through the mail. Among bills and coupons was yet another survey from one of several Republican fundraising committees, asking me my opinion of what Congress should do. An it dawned on me: the GOP has run the House since 1994, and the Senate since 2002. WTF is the GOP doing? Resting on its laurels? We elected the current House members to pass the GOP agenda, not to hobnob in DC and whine about how the terrible minority Democrats are opposing their agenda. So freakin' what? Use the majority you've got and start passing the GOP platform into law!!! :mad: If the GOP had effective leadership, we would have already 1) reformed Social Security, 2) reformed the federal government's role in education, 3) totally revised the tax code, and 4) ended illegal immigration, just to name a few. Instead, I'm getting surveys about how cautiously the GOP should tread!!!

I blame Tom DeLay and Bill Frist for having zero testicles between the two of them. Where are the real leaders in the GOP, and why aren't they stepping up to the plate?!?

Hit the nail on the head. That's why the folks who voted for these guys have to face reality-the agenda they ran on was designed to get your vote, not to predict what they would actually do. There is usually a balance of power in some sense in our government. The present is an exception. So what's holding them back? Obviously they don't want to do what they promised. They never intended to. Sorry, but the people who voted GOP got hosed!
 
What a waste, what a waste!!

The GOP has taken the opportunity of a lifetime, born during the Reagan years,
developed further in 94 (By Newt) and then 2000-04. They had the world by the balls.
And what have they done with this opportunity?
Well, unless you consider spending like a drunken sailor an accomplishment, NOT A DAMN THING!!IMO
 
Mr. P said:
What a waste, what a waste!!

The GOP has taken the opportunity of a lifetime, born during the Reagan years,
developed further in 94 (By Newt) and then 2000-04. They had the world by the balls.
And what have they done with this opportunity?
Well, unless you consider spending like a drunken sailor an accomplishment, NOT A DAMN THING!!IMO

they are affraid of not being reelected and they are "reaching" out to the left.

take the war spending out of the budget and it is my understanding that spending as dropped
 
manu1959 said:
they are affraid of not being reelected and they are "reaching" out to the left.

take the war spending out of the budget and it is my understanding that spending as dropped
No way...I think the national drug plan is the biggest spending program in history. Or at least since LBJ. We can slice and dice and crunch the numbers in anyway that makes them look good...Fact is I've NEVER seen so much $$$$
doled out to social programs in my entire life without positive action in other areas. IMO, except for the tax cut, they have done NOTHING. I support the WOT, but even that is in neutral, IMO..DO SOMETHING DAMIT!!! If yer going to war, go break things an kill people and get er done! Geeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz Can ya tell I'm PISSED!???????? :eek2:

EDIT: But you're right, they are "reaching" out to the left. The problem is they forgot their base..The ones that brought em to the dance.
 
Mr. P said:
What a waste, what a waste!!

The GOP has taken the opportunity of a lifetime, born during the Reagan years,
developed further in 94 (By Newt) and then 2000-04. They had the world by the balls.
And what have they done with this opportunity?
Well, unless you consider spending like a drunken sailor an accomplishment, NOT A DAMN THING!!IMO

Gotta agree with ya P. What a totally wasted huge opportunity for the GOP. This last SCOTUS appointment is the proberbial straw. I think the conservative base has taken all it can take, which has been a whole lot.

I'd like to know why Bush has to pussyfoot around with a basically unknown candidate. What the hell is wrong with appointing a tried and proven conservative candidate? There is nothing wrong with having a solid conservative judge. Why not just appoint one upfront and out in the open and to hell with the howlers on the left? The GOP has the power and needs to use it....but as you have pointed out, they have done a damn poor job of it.

I think they've pretty much lost the conservative base because they are seeking a moderate base instead. I don't think I could stomach McCaine or Guiliani in 2008. We conservatives need a new leader and maybe a new party?
 
Mr. P said:
What a waste, what a waste!!

The GOP has taken the opportunity of a lifetime, born during the Reagan years,
developed further in 94 (By Newt) and then 2000-04. They had the world by the balls.
And what have they done with this opportunity?
Well, unless you consider spending like a drunken sailor an accomplishment, NOT A DAMN THING!!IMO

Right you are.

The Republicans are not going to be in the majority forever,
and the end may come sooner or later if they do not stop
emulating the Democrats' spending habits of c1956-1994.
 
Nuc said:
Hit the nail on the head. That's why the folks who voted for these guys have to face reality-the agenda they ran on was designed to get your vote, not to predict what they would actually do. There is usually a balance of power in some sense in our government. The present is an exception. So what's holding them back? Obviously they don't want to do what they promised. They never intended to. Sorry, but the people who voted GOP got hosed!

Thankfully they are using a much smaller hose than the Dems intended to use on everybody! That makes a big difference,Nuc.
 
dilloduck said:
Thankfully they are using a much smaller hose than the Dems intended to use on everybody! That makes a big difference,Nuc.

Well, don't you think prospective Republican voters might be smart to stop falling for all the canards GOP politicians throw at them (pledge, 10 commandments in the courthouse, gay marriage, stem cell) and focus instead upon reality and what these guys are ACTUALLY going to do once they're in office. That stuff and more are designed to corral single issue voters, nothing else.

This reminds me of when Clinton promised health care reform and then squandered the nations goodwill by letting his wife of all people botch the whole thing.

No wonder so many people are apathetic about the political process.
 
dilloduck said:
Thankfully they are using a much smaller hose than the Dems intended to use on everybody! That makes a big difference,Nuc.

When was the last time the Dems contolled the executive, senate, house and practically controlled the judiciary? We won't know what kind of hose the Dems will use on their own people until that scenario occurs.
 
Nuc said:
When was the last time the Dems contolled the executive, senate, house and practically controlled the judiciary? We won't know what kind of hose the Dems will use on their own people until that scenario occurs.

But we can sure pray for THAT scenario to NEVER occur!!! :smoke:
 
Nuc said:
When was the last time the Dems contolled the executive, senate, house and practically controlled the judiciary? We won't know what kind of hose the Dems will use on their own people until that scenario occurs.
The last time they controlled the Executive, House and Senate
was 1993-95.

They controlled both House and Senate 1957-81; Reagan had
a Senate majority for I think four years.

Hillary Clinton's aborted Health care plan might have been what
finally tipped the public against the Democrats' usual dual majority.

Before 1993 reagan and Bush had had 12 years between them
to push their judges through, although the judges never did deliver
on such keynote issues as abortion and school prayer.

The Democrats also controlled the House and Senate 1977-81,
and 1961-69.

Whenever they do, you can look for colossal social engineering
projects, such as the entire Great Society programs of the 1960s,
and such crap as Cater's totally useless Department of Energy.

The trouble with the GD Republicans is that they make absolutely
no effort to roll any of this crap backwards. Rather, they play
along with it for all they are worth.
 
Tom DeLay is too busy messing with Texas politics and Bill Frist is too busy kissing Pres. Bush's derrier to set himself up for a Presidential run in 2008. Also, let's hear it for Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi for running the most effective and intelligent Democratic opposition we've had since we lost our majorities. Harry Reid especially for being very adept at joining with moderate GOP Senators like Chaffee, Specter, Snowe, et. al. to keep the Senate on a moderate course and to fix a lot of the garbage that comes out of the house. Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have brought house Democrats together and kept them together brilliantly. Both Reid and Pelosi have been smart in terms of where to pick their fights.

We in Missouri will do our part to help take back the Senate when we elect Claire McCaskill Missouri's newest Senator and send Jim Talent packing.

acludem
 
ScreamingEagle said:
Gotta agree with ya P. What a totally wasted huge opportunity for the GOP. This last SCOTUS appointment is the proberbial straw. I think the conservative base has taken all it can take, which has been a whole lot.

I'd like to know why Bush has to pussyfoot around with a basically unknown candidate. What the hell is wrong with appointing a tried and proven conservative candidate? There is nothing wrong with having a solid conservative judge. Why not just appoint one upfront and out in the open and to hell with the howlers on the left? The GOP has the power and needs to use it....but as you have pointed out, they have done a damn poor job of it.

I think they've pretty much lost the conservative base because they are seeking a moderate base instead. I don't think I could stomach McCaine or Guiliani in 2008. We conservatives need a new leader and maybe a new party?


however both the Demo and Repub parties are aligned with the "New World Order" The Tri-lateral and others around the globe...Both Bushes,Clintons,even peanut farmer Carter...to include Rumsfeld,Cheney and Condi Rice all belong...the list goes on and on...we my friend are in a world of proverbial shit to say the least! I would say within the next 5-10 years we will be living in the one government "New World order" only a miracle or revolution of and by the people can stop this trend...World Banking is and has been the world government for the last century! :2guns: Doc Hoiday has "one for each of ya"
 
If the GOP had effective leadership, we would have already 1) reformed Social Security, 2) reformed the federal government's role in education, 3) totally revised the tax code, and 4) ended illegal immigration, just to name a few. Instead, I'm getting surveys about how cautiously the GOP should tread!!!

I blame Tom DeLay and Bill Frist for having zero testicles between the two of them. Where are the real leaders in the GOP, and why aren't they stepping up to the plate?!?

You're assuming they actually want those things in the first place, and that they aren't political opportunists looking to advance their careers. They are socialists just like the democrats. The democrats are socialists that lean to the left; they love the welfare state and throw up token opposition to the warfare state, and they want big government to promote "progressive" values. The republicans are socialists who lean to the right; they love the warfare state and throw up token opposition to the welfare state, and they want big government to promote "traditional" values.
 
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