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An interesting little look back to what one of the leading climateologists of the era (and founder of the now disgraced CRU) predicted waaaayyy back in 1972. And for Old Fraud here is the beginning of your 25 year CO2 increase in the atmosphere and to date the climate has been following it's normal cycles. Yet more evidence that AGW theory is garbage.
- Bishop Hill blog - Hubert Lamb on iceages
"The full impact of the ice age will not be upon us for another ten thousand years,....."
That is the quote from your site;
- Bishop Hill blog - Hubert Lamb on iceages
In other words, at that time he was considering only the Milankovic Cycles, and not the growing levels of GHGs in our atmosphere.
No, we have not been following our normal cycles. We should be colder, but, instead are rapidly warming.
"The full impact of the ice age will not be upon us for another ten thousand years,....."
That is the quote from your site;
- Bishop Hill blog - Hubert Lamb on iceages
In other words, at that time he was considering only the Milankovic Cycles, and not the growing levels of GHGs in our atmosphere.
No, we have not been following our normal cycles. We should be colder, but, instead are rapidly warming.
Logicalscience.com - The Consensus On Global Warming/Climate Change: From Science to Industry & Religion
Union of Concerned Scientists
Global warming is one of the most serious challenges facing us today. To protect the health and economic well-being of current and future generations, we must reduce our emissions of heat-trapping gases by using the technology, know-how, and practical solutions already at our disposal."1
Woods Hole Research Center
"We may recall the extensive and incredibly successful campaign of the American tobacco companies to conceal the link between cancer and the use of tobacco products. For decades, they knew the reality of the addictive nature of nicotine and the carcinogenic effects of tobacco use. For decades, they successfully kept that reality hidden from the American public. The oil, coal, gas, and mining industries stand to lose tremendously if the truth about global warming becomes accepted by American society. As the tobacco industry invested millions in keeping its deadly secret, so also have the oil, coal, gas, and mining industries attempted to hide and discredit the link between CO2 emissions and a warming earth."1
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
Third Assessment Report (2001)
Fourth Assessment Report ( 2007)
United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)
Even the minimum predicted shifts in climate for the 21st century are likely to be significant and disruptive.1
American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)
The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society [snip]The conclusions in this statement reflect the scientific consensus
represented by, for example, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), and the Joint National Academies statement (http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf)..- AAAS Board Statement on Climate Change Approved by the AAAS Board of Directors 9 December 2006
"AAAS President John P. Holdren and CEO Alan I. Leshner Sunday called for the U.S. public and their leaders to muster the political will for serious evasive action to address climate change. Writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, the two AAAS leaders said that there can be no doubt about the reality of climate change."1
American Meteorological Society (AMS)
The American Meteorological Society endorses the "Joint Academies' Statement: Global Response to Climate Change" released by the national academies of science of 11 countries, including the U.S., on 7 June 2005.1
"Human activities have become a major source of environmental change. Of great urgency are the climate consequences of the increasing atmospheric abundance of greenhouse gases and other trace constituents ... [that] interact strongly with the Earth's energy balance, resulting in the prospect of significant global warming. ... Because greenhouse gases continue to increase, we are, in effect, conducting a global climate experiment, neither planned nor controlled, the results of which may present unprecedented challenges to our wisdom and foresight as well as have significant impacts on our natural and societal systems. It is a long-term problem that requires a long-term perspective. Important decisions confront current and future national and world leaders." - Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 84, 508515
LOL!!! You pulled out one of the "Ice Age" and think it supports your cause?!?! Anyone with a critical mind not invested in making sure a particular side wins, would have to think, what's made so many scientists change their minds, so fast? This just underscores that the deniers' motives are purely political. They spread stories like this to the scientifically unsophisticated to further the meme that "scientists don't know what they're talking about" and hoping that their audience doesn't figure out that means the skeptics too!!!
Anyone with a critical mind not invested in making sure a particular side wins, would have to think, what's made so many scientists change their minds, so fast?!
Be quiet idiot and let your pal answer the simple question...
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National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
While Milankovitch cycles have tremendous value as a theory to explain ice-ages and long-term changes in the climate, they are unlikely to have very much impact on the decade-century timescale. Over several centuries, it may be possible to observe the effect of these orbital parameters, however for the prediction of climate change in the 21st century, these changes will be far less important than radiative forcing from greenhouse gases. 1
10. Can the observed changes be explained by natural variability, including changes in solar output?
Since our entire climate system is fundamentally driven by energy from the sun, it stands to reason that if the sun's energy output were to change, then so would the climate. Since the advent of space-borne measurements in the late 1970s, solar output has indeed been shown to vary. With now 28 years of reliable satellite observations there is confirmation of earlier suggestions of an 11 (and 22) year cycle of irradiance related to sunspots but no longer term trend in these data. Based on paleoclimatic (proxy) reconstructions of solar irradiance there is suggestion of a trend of about +0.12 W/m2 since 1750 which is about half of the estimate given in the last IPCC report in 2001. There is though, a great deal of uncertainty in estimates of solar irradiance beyond what can be measured by satellites, and still the contribution of direct solar irradiance forcing is small compared to the greenhouse gas component. However, our understanding of the indirect effects of changes in solar output and feedbacks in the climate system is minimal. There is much need to refine our understanding of key natural forcing mechanisms of the climate, including solar irradiance changes, in order to reduce uncertainty in our projections of future climate change.
In addition to changes in energy from the sun itself, the Earth's position and orientation relative to the sun (our orbit) also varies slightly, thereby bringing us closer and further away from the sun in predictable cycles (called Milankovitch cycles). Variations in these cycles are believed to be the cause of Earth's ice-ages (glacials). Particularly important for the development of glacials is the radiation receipt at high northern latitudes. Diminishing radiation at these latitudes during the summer months would have enabled winter snow and ice cover to persist throughout the year, eventually leading to a permanent snow- or icepack. While Milankovitch cycles have tremendous value as a theory to explain ice-ages and long-term changes in the climate, they are unlikely to have very much impact on the decade-century timescale. Over several centuries, it may be possible to observe the effect of these orbital parameters, however for the prediction of climate change in the 21st century, these changes will be far less important than radiative forcing from greenhouse gases.
