What the Dems should do

[Oddball]

No, it's about people having the courage of their convictions and standing for them until the end.

That's the Democrats biggest flaw - they compromise.

The main reason that the Republicans won the house is that they have the courage of their convictions.

However idiotic those convictions may be.

Dude, you really have to lay off that schwaggy imported Mexican brick weed....I mean really.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Lol, the dems were taking votes on hc during christmas eve when they thought nobody was watching. They got kicked out because they voted for this crap. Pretty simple really.

 

[Richard-H]

Not being a Republican, I had the same thought, but it's just not practical. Getting legislation through both Houses is time consuming. Republicans can filibuster in the Senate and delay most legislation. The top priority has to be legislation to either get the 2011 budget approved or pass an emergency appropriation to keep the government running after Jan 1st or until a budget can be approved. Without budget approval government will shutdown. Even the most radical elements in Congress would not want to see that happen but Republicans could use that as leverage against Democrats if they did as you suggest.

I'm sure that they could put their heads together and come up with a few things -like Obama's tax cut legislation. Let the Republicans filibuster - that's one issue that'll still be a big win for the Dems if they hold their ground.

Bring up some bills that the Republicans want but paint them as Democartic bills...

How about if the Democrats actually LEARNED TO PLAY POLITICS?

"learn to play politics"?? WTF?? My god man!! Are you that obtuse? Go back and review the way that Obamacare was rammed through.......

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

 

[Revere]

I'm sure that they could put their heads together and come up with a few things -like Obama's tax cut legislation. Let the Republicans filibuster - that's one issue that'll still be a big win for the Dems if they hold their ground.

Bring up some bills that the Republicans want but paint them as Democartic bills...

How about if the Democrats actually LEARNED TO PLAY POLITICS?

"learn to play politics"?? WTF?? My god man!! Are you that obtuse? Go back and review the way that Obamacare was rammed through.......

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

Um, no it wasn't. It was written by lobbyists in 2009.

 

[Revere]

For the Democrats that held their seats after this Tuesday's election - they know that their seats are secure.

For those that lost - they have nothing more to lose.

While the Dems still have the majority in the house, they should ram thru a series of the most Liberal legislation that this country has ever seen. Force it down the Republicans throats - like they did with the Health Care Bill.

They'll be NOTHING that the Republicans can do about it - the Dems will still control the Presidency and Senate for the next 2 years - so the Republicans can't change a thing.

Then what they need to do, like the Republicans did for the past 2 years, is declare all out partisan warfare. Let the Republicans whine all they want - just keep them in their place - which is absolutely impotent. Holding the majority in the house alone is worth squat.

The only reason why the Republicans won in the house is because they politically out manuevered the Democrats shamelessly - and Americans respected them for that - not their ideology.

If the Democrats are willing to go head to head with the Republicans in a 2 years long pissing contest and WIN - they'll regain the house and retain the Presidency and the Senate.

If they wimp out and give in to the Republicans - it's all over for them in the next elections.

Politics in America is not about politics - it's about respect. Americans love a winner.

And that's different from someone who's being kicked out of their apartment flinging shit all over the place...how, exactly?

Yeah, I can't think of any difference, either.

No, it's about people having the courage of their convictions and standing for them until the end.

That's the Democrats biggest flaw - they compromise.

The main reason that the Republicans won the house is that they have the courage of their convictions.

However idiotic those convictions may be.

The ones who did got wiped out.

Think they are going to do it again?

 

[Zander]

I'm sure that they could put their heads together and come up with a few things -like Obama's tax cut legislation. Let the Republicans filibuster - that's one issue that'll still be a big win for the Dems if they hold their ground.

Bring up some bills that the Republicans want but paint them as Democartic bills...

How about if the Democrats actually LEARNED TO PLAY POLITICS?

"learn to play politics"?? WTF?? My god man!! Are you that obtuse? Go back and review the way that Obamacare was rammed through.......

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

Wow, you really are misinformed. Try doing some research Dick, the bill was created and written in 2009. Democrats were punished for supporting it, and will continue to be punished for it. So please Democrats, continue to try and sell it, Americans loves a hard sell, right?

 

[Oddball]

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

They didn't compromise with jack shit.

They couldn't get DEMOCRAT votes for a full-blown gubmint takeover, and only got their half measure 2000+page abortion of a bill by bribing and twisting the arms of DEMOCRATS.

I'm seriously...Lay off the cheap Mexican brick weed.

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, The Democrats lose, and all the bullshit they spouted about, civility and bipartisanship flies right out of their asses where they were talking from to begin with..

buck up kiddo lefties, yer in fer a long hard ride.

 

[Richard-H]

And that's different from someone who's being kicked out of their apartment flinging shit all over the place...how, exactly?

Yeah, I can't think of any difference, either.

No, it's about people having the courage of their convictions and standing for them until the end.

That's the Democrats biggest flaw - they compromise.

The main reason that the Republicans won the house is that they have the courage of their convictions.

However idiotic those convictions may be.

The ones who did got wiped out.

Think they are going to do it again?

Guess again. They ones that lost their seats were the middle of the road Democrats. Up here in New England ('cept New Hampshire) , the Dems swept the elections- because they were liberals to the core - and that got their people out voting.

 

[Richard-H]

LOL, The Democrats lose, and all the bullshit they spouted about, civility and bipartisanship flies right out of their asses where they were talking from to begin with..

buck up kiddo lefties, yer in fer a long hard ride.

2 years really isn't very long!

 

[Richard-H]

"learn to play politics"?? WTF?? My god man!! Are you that obtuse? Go back and review the way that Obamacare was rammed through.......

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

Wow, you really are misinformed. Try doing some research Dick, the bill was created and written in 2009. Democrats were punished for supporting it, and will continue to be punished for it. So please Democrats, continue to try and sell it, Americans loves a hard sell, right?

So you don't remember any discussion about the single payer system or the public option?

I didn't say that the bill was written by the Bush Administration, I said that it was based on the Bush Administrations proposals.

Learn to read.

 

[Richard-H]

"learn to play politics"?? WTF?? My god man!! Are you that obtuse? Go back and review the way that Obamacare was rammed through.......

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

Um, no it wasn't. It was written by lobbyists in 2009.

'written by lobbyists in 2009'?

Now your accusing Democrats of acting like Republicans!

That's really, really low!

 

[Richard-H]

Good night all!

 

[Revere]

'ObamaCare' was based on the Bush administration's proposals for Health Care. Liberals wanted either a single payer system or at least a public option. The result was a compromised, crappy bill.

Um, no it wasn't. It was written by lobbyists in 2009.

'written by lobbyists in 2009'?

Now your accusing Democrats of acting like Republicans!

That's really, really low!

Yes, and Obama committed to giving drug companies carve outs from cost controls in exchange for giving him millions to promote Obamacare.

 

[Intense]

I think if Richard got his way, in two years we could visit our Doctors in cardboard offices, and we will be living in cardboard houses.

 

[Richard-H]

I think if Richard got his way, in two years we could visit our Doctors in cardboard offices, and we will be living in cardboard houses.

Funny, but there doesn't seem to be a migration of doctors from Canada or anywhere else now is there? They certainly wouldn't have any difficulty getting citizenship.

Another strawman perhaps?

 

[Richard-H]

Um, no it wasn't. It was written by lobbyists in 2009.

'written by lobbyists in 2009'?

Now your accusing Democrats of acting like Republicans!

That's really, really low!

Yes, and Obama committed to giving drug companies carve outs from cost controls in exchange for giving him millions to promote Obamacare.

Obama's compromises with the pharma companies was another issue that pissed liberals of royally!

That's the exact type of political compromise that I'm talking about.

 

[Intense]

I think if Richard got his way, in two years we could visit our Doctors in cardboard offices, and we will be living in cardboard houses.

Funny, but there doesn't seem to be a migration of doctors from Canada or anywhere else now is there? They certainly wouldn't have any difficulty getting citizenship.

Another strawman perhaps?

Citizenship, yes. Insurance, no.

Importing President's didn't work out too well either . Huh...

 

[Intense]

'written by lobbyists in 2009'?

Now your accusing Democrats of acting like Republicans!

That's really, really low!

Yes, and Obama committed to giving drug companies carve outs from cost controls in exchange for giving him millions to promote Obamacare.

Obama's compromises with the pharma companies was another issue that pissed liberals of royally!

That's the exact type of political compromise that I'm talking about.

It's all double speak, contradictions. See it for what it is. Tho only people that benefit, do so by manipulating the system. Play fair, and you are road kill. It's a bad path.

 

[Flopper]

For the Democrats that held their seats after this Tuesday's election - they know that their seats are secure.

For those that lost - they have nothing more to lose.

While the Dems still have the majority in the house, they should ram thru a series of the most Liberal legislation that this country has ever seen. Force it down the Republicans throats - like they did with the Health Care Bill.

They'll be NOTHING that the Republicans can do about it - the Dems will still control the Presidency and Senate for the next 2 years - so the Republicans can't change a thing.

Then what they need to do, like the Republicans did for the past 2 years, is declare all out partisan warfare. Let the Republicans whine all they want - just keep them in their place - which is absolutely impotent. Holding the majority in the house alone is worth squat.

The only reason why the Republicans won in the house is because they politically out manuevered the Democrats shamelessly - and Americans respected them for that - not their ideology.

If the Democrats are willing to go head to head with the Republicans in a 2 years long pissing contest and WIN - they'll regain the house and retain the Presidency and the Senate.

If they wimp out and give in to the Republicans - it's all over for them in the next elections.

Politics in America is not about politics - it's about respect. Americans love a winner.

Not being a Republican, I had the same thought, but it's just not practical. Getting legislation through both Houses is time consuming. Republicans can filibuster in the Senate and delay most legislation. The top priority has to be legislation to either get the 2011 budget approved or pass an emergency appropriation to keep the government running after Jan 1st or until a budget can be approved. Without budget approval government will shutdown. Even the most radical elements in Congress would not want to see that happen but Republicans could use that as leverage against Democrats if they did as you suggest.

I'm sure that they could put their heads together and come up with a few things -like Obama's tax cut legislation. Let the Republicans filibuster - that's one issue that'll still be a big win for the Dems if they hold their ground.

Bring up some bills that the Republicans want but paint them as Democartic bills...

How about if the Democrats actually LEARNED TO PLAY POLITICS?

They will be doing good if they can get the budget approved or an emergency appropriation passed.