What religion is good for?

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    Religion has done a few of these things:

    * Condone slavery
    * Condone gender inequality (Islam and Hinduism is big on this one)
    * Condone intolerance of others belief, which led to killings
    * Go against logic, reasoning and practicality, which has proven to work.
    * Promote untested theories (Creation, prayers) and beliefs (faith, etc.)

    From all the crap I've seen between between the Muslims, Christians, and Jews in North America, Europe, Middle East, Africa and the Philippines. The Hindus and Muslims in South and East Asia. The Muslims and the Buddhist in China. And the Hindus and Buddhist in Sri Lanka. I think it's safe to say that religion cause more problems than helps.

    Yes, religion does a good job of bringing people to a common cause, but is that common cause a beneficial thing? For most of the time, yes, but you can do it without religion.

    All in all, we would be better off without it. With reasoning, logic, and common sense, we can achieve all the things that religion can with less drama.
     
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    Really? You can recieve revelation from God, with reasoning, logic, and common sense?

    You can know God without first hand experiences?
     
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    Religion didn't condone all that. People with religion might have.
     
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    What religion is good for IMO is what it does for many people (not myself) on a personal level. To help them cope with living in a what can often be a hard, shitty world to live in. It is called Faith and sometimes I wish I had it because life can be hard.

    IMO that is one good thing about Religion right there. But then that does not require Organized Religion which is of course the real cause of all the evils you talk about.

    People believing in god is not the problem. It is what Organized Religion has done and said in Gods name that seems to me to be the real culprit. Your Beef is with Churches and people not the Religion itself. The basic Tenants of Christianity or Judaism or Islam are not the evil. It is what people have warped them into that is in some cases.
     
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    sorry no its all there in the good book
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8oAGvFxevw]YouTube - Ziggy Marley Video: Love is My Religion[/ame]
     
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    Revelations from God? That's nonsense and you knot it. No such thing exist.
     
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    Exactly, for example

    Intolerance:

    You shall have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:3 (Bible/Torah)

    Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6 (Qu'ran)

    Slavery:

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46

    O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement. 2.178

    A woman's place:

    When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her. Deuteronomy 25:11-12

    For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. I Corinthians 11:8-9

    Women have rights that are similar to men, but men are "a degree above them." 2:228


    I can give you more, but I think you get the idea now. I added a New Testament verse so that I don't hear that "well they don't say stuff like that in the New Testament" crap.

    Also, it give you a picture that as much Islam and Christianity/Judaism say they are not alike, they really are. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism; same shit, different pile.
     
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    They really don't need the faith from some superficial entity that will magically give it to them. Faith and hope comes from within, a belief that no matter what, you will survive.
     
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