what really needs to happen

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  1. spectrumc01
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    spectrumc01 I give you....the TRUTH

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    We are missing the boat on the debt debate. What we really need is almost like another continental congress. Government spending needs to be completely reworked. We need to start from scratch. Sometimes there are too many leaks and the container can take no more patching.

    We should take a temporary debt ceiling increase with the knowledge that nothing else gets done or discussed except the budget. We sit down and go department by department getting rid of unnecessary departments and spending. Rework the entire budget from the ground up. Ending the whole process with a balanced budget ammendment. This is our only real workable solution for our future.

    The things we really need to look at are...
    1) Government salaries, no one seems to want to touch these.
    2) Redundant police agencies - ATF, DEA
    3) Ineffective government agencies - DOE, EPA
    4) Complicated government policies - Tax code, loop holes
    5) Foriegn involvement - overseas military, bribes
    6) How are government actually works - two party system

    We could really accomplish alot of good here but we seem to spend our time fighting over who gets how much of the financial pie, and not how to make the pie beneficial to all.
     
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    Socialism is not possible in murka. The people worship fatcats and celebrities and continue to vote against their own best interests.
    You use Windows ? Right ?
    I rest my case.
     
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    spectrumc01 I give you....the TRUTH

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    It dosen't have to be socialism to be beneficial to all. Capitalism is also beneficial to all if applied correctly. The fact remains a rework is in order and desperately needs to be done. We need a governmental upgrade, we need government 2.0.
     
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    End the Federal Reserve System
    End the Internal Revenue Service
    End the Department of Education
    End the Department of Homeland Security
    Bring home all of our troops from the 130 country's we are in.
    Close down the 700 bases we currently have overseas.
    Get back to Constitutional government
    Elect Ron Paul 2012
     
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    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

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    WE got to where we are today with the Constitution ratified in 1789.

    Clearly what most of us want from Government is NOT what this constitution can provide.

    I ALSO think its time to rethink the social contract.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. Bringing the original intent more into line with modern realities is absolutely necessary. For years, the USSC has had to decide some very hairy cases based on ambiguous clauses which could have been decided either way. Now for the past 20 years or so with the USSC being more politically inclined, their decisions are largely based on that, with the justices having to dig deep into prior decisions reflecting which way they lean politically in order to justify their votes . This is not right.

    A Constitutional Convention would be quicker and less convoluted than the amendment process and could include many needed amendments under one all-encompassing amendment.

    The straight amendment method is for a bill to pass both houses of the legislature, by a two-thirds majority in each. The way Congress operates today, that alone could take YEARS. Then, once the bill has passed both houses, it goes on to the states which must be ratified by three-fourths of the states. Another lengthy period of time which would include years of bickering and even further interference by Washington.

    A Constitutional Convention, however, is first called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States which proposes one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This process would involve 50 governors and their respective legislative bodies, rather than 535 Washington idiots who have trouble getting anything right. Although this route has never been taken, it would certainly bypass the initial bullshit we'd have to listen to out of Washington before any amendment process got off the ground.
     

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