What Rank Is Gay On The Sin Chart?

[ABikerSailor]

Hate to tell you Jeremiah, but the Word of God is much older than that............like by around 3,600 years. For those who don't know, the actual Word of God is the first 5 books of the Old Testament, better known as the Torah.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

For your information, the New Testament hasn't been around for 3600 years and it is part of the Bible! I have studied the Torah and know it fairly well, Biker. I love the Old Testament. AND The New Testament.

Another comment. Sin is sin. There is no great or small sin. Telling a lie, not forgiving someone or stealing something will send someone to hell just as quickly as living in sexual sin will. Any sin can be repented of and forgiven. There is no ranking of sin.

 

[ABikerSailor]

If you meant Bible Jeremiah, you should have SAID Bible. The current KJV that we all use was done in the mid 1400's, during the Neicine Council.

But you didn't say Bible, you said Word of God, which in actuality is the Torah.

Interesting how little you Christians know about your own book.

BTW...................the "man shall not lie with man like a man lies with a woman" verse is from Leviticus, which is basically a manual for the Levites, which were the Jewish priests.

 

[aris2chat]

2 Peter 2 7 and if he rescued Lot a righteous man who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless

And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
2 Peter 2:7

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary7.
just—righteous.filthy conversation—literally, "behavior in licentiousness" (Ge 19:5).the wicked—Greek, "lawless": who set at defiance the laws of nature, as well as man and God. The Lord reminds us of Lot's faithfulness, but not of his sin in the cave: so in Rahab's case.

And Genesis 19:5 reads:
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Whereare the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
Genesis 19:5

Pulpit Commentary
Verse 5. - And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Josephus supposes them to have been of beautiful countenances ('Ant.,' 1:11, 3), which excited the lust of the Sodomites, and caused them to assault Lot's house with shameful cries. Bring them out unto us, that we may know them. The sin here euphemistically referred to (cf. Judges 19:22) was exceedingly prevalent among the Canaanites (Leviticus 18:22) and other heathen nations (Romans 1:27). Under the law of Moses it was punishable by death.

Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
Judges 19:22

Pulpit Commentary
Verse 22. - Making their hearts merry - as in vers. 6, 9, and in Judges 16:25; Ruth 3:7. But there is nothing in the expression implying any excess in drinking. Bring forth the man. The abandoned character of the men appears in this, that not only did they offer no hospitality to the stranger themselves, but were ready to violate the sanctity of the hospitality of the old man's house by their brutal violence. There must have been a fearful absence of all law and order and government when such deeds could be done without any interference on the part of magistrate or elder or ruler of any kind. The singular resemblance of the whole narrative to that in Genesis 19. suggests that the Israelites by their contact with the accursed Canaanites had reduced themselves to the level of Sodom and Gomorrah. Surely this shows the wisdom of the command to destroy utterly the workers of abomination. Sons of Belial. See Judges 20:13, where the same Hebrew phrase is rendered children of Belial. Belial in this common phrase is not a proper name, but a noun meaning worthlessness. Sons or men of Belial means worthless fellows.

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 18:22

Pulpit CommentaryVerse 22. - The fourth prohibition forbids the sin of Sodom (see Genesis 19:5; Judges 11:22; Romans 1:27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10). The penalty is death (Leviticus 20:13). Gill's Exposition of the Entire BibleThou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind,.... By carnal knowledge of them, and carnal copulation with them, and mixing bodies in like manner: this is the sin commonly called sodomy, from the inhabitants of Sodom, greatly addicted to it, for which their city was destroyed by fire: those that are guilty of this sin, are, by the apostle, called "abusers of themselves with mankind", 1 Corinthians 6:9, it is abomination; it is so to God, as the above instance of his vengeance shows, and ought to be abominable to men, as being not only contrary to the law of God, but even contrary to nature itself, and what is never to be observed among brute creatures.
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The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was not lack of hospitality but rather the sin of men having sex with men. Sodomy. The word Sodom means "confusion". Could there be any greater confusion than what we witness in those who are committing the sin of homosexual acts? Look at the latest news of a man who sought medical procedures to change himself into a woman and is now being put on the cover of a magazine - posing as a woman. Truly there is no greater definition of confusion.

Jenner did not feel comfortable in his skin as a man. He has struggled with it for a long time. Why should he suffer the rest if his life?
He is not a drag queen, he has changed his body into what he feels like inside. It takes a lot of determination and he looks good. I hope he is happy.

You really have a problem with other people. Perhaps the real problem in not everyone else but you. Not your business to judge, dictate or condemn the lives if other people. With your attitude, you have enough problems. Stop throwing stones.

You are quoting commentary from 1871? You do understand we are in the 21st century now? Most of what they say is not even their own work, but the quotes and opinions of others.

What cave did you just crawl out of???

The Word of God is the same yesterday, today and forever, Aris. So is the interpretation. It matters not that it was written in 1871. The truth is the truth irregardless of time. Which is why it stands the test of time while false teachings, latest fads - do not. Have a nice evening.

In 1866 The Holy Office of Pope Pius IX affirmed that, subject to conditions, it was not against divine law for a slave to be sold, bought or exchanged.
a century later
In 1995 Pope John Paul II repeated the condemnation of "infamies", including slavery, issued by the Second Vatican Council

Commonly held, even by Christians, that a human being did not come into existence as such immediately on conception, but only some weeks later. Saint Anselm of Canterbury (1033–1109) said that "no human intellect accepts the view that an infant has the rational soul from the moment of conception".
Thomas Aquinas, who accepted the Aristotelian theory that a human soul was infused only after 40 days for a male fetus, 90 days for a female
17th century, Francis Torreblanca approved abortions aimed merely at saving a woman's good name, the Holy Office (what is now called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith), at that time headed by Pope Innocent XI, condemned the proposition that "it is lawful to procure abortion before ensoulment of the fetus lest a girl, detected as pregnant, be killed or defamed"
Decretum Gratiani, which remained the basis of Catholic canon law until replaced by the 1917 Code of Canon Law, distinguished between early-term and late-term abortions
Pope John Paul II wrote: I would now like to say a special word to women who have had an abortion. The Church is aware of the many factors which may have influenced your decision, and she does not doubt that in many cases it was a painful and even shattering decision. The wound in your heart may not yet have healed. Certainly what happened was and remains terribly wrong. But do not give in to discouragement and do not lose hope. Try rather to understand what happened and face it honestly. If you have not already done so, give yourselves over with humility and trust to repentance. The Father of mercies is ready to give you his forgiveness and his peace in the Sacrament of Reconciliation

The statement says that gay unions “cannot be considered on the same footing as matrimony between man and woman,” but the Church says it now recognizes there are many positive aspects to relationships between same-sex couples.

Divorce, condoms, birth control......... the churches are changing. There is even a gay catholic priest and has come out.

Christianity is not stagnant, it changes and evolves. It was permitted for priests to have sex till the 16th Century. At one point they were even permitted to marry. Now we have come almost full circle allowing, married men to be priests. Celibacy was a Paul thing, not Jesus or the apostles. Peter was married and traveled with his daughter who helped lead prayer and service.
14th century Pope was a doctor who wrote a how to book on safe birth control.

Yes, some of us actually know a bit about the history of the church the bible and christianity. We have seen attitudes change and a bit of the modern light shine in. People evolve, why shouldn't the church? We don't live in the dark ages, nor should the church, or any religion. Even muslims not have female clerics and women in the ulama deciding in sharia law. The world and attitudes change. More than half the state now have gay marriage. Gay and transgender muslims are coming out. They have night clubs, dating services, magazines and web sides in the middle east now. Iran pays for sex change operations.

Get out of your cave and wake up to the new world. Learn to accept other for what they are. You hate and condemnation is the sin. Let people find god in their own way if they so choose to, or not. Be generous and giving to everyone sinner and saint alike. Stop bad mouthing others. We are all equal, or should be in the eyes of god. If there is judgement, leave that to god, it is not for you to decide.
Worry about your own sins instead of others.

Grow up!

The world is still a wonderful place if people would stop looking for faults and reasons to hate each other.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Aris, I don't know what your problem is but I'm not Catholic and I'm very busy right now with trying to help a sick cat. This is my last response to you - if you don't like hearing the Gospel of Jesus Christ in my threads or my posts about what the Bible says? You have the freedom to look elsewhere for your answers but the personal attacks won't get you anywhere with me. Your problem is with the Word of God. Not me. This is my final response. Good bye.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Commonly held, even by Christians, that a human being did not come into existence as such immediately on conception, but only some weeks later. Saint Anselm of Canterbury (1033–1109) said that "no human intellect accepts the view that an infant has the rational soul from the moment of conception".

we've learned a bit about biology since 1109......

 

[guno]

For your information, the New Testament hasn't been around for 3600 years and it is part of the Bible! I have studied the Torah and know it fairly well, Biker. I love the Old Testament. AND The New Testament.

Another comment. Sin is sin. There is no great or small sin. Telling a lie, not forgiving someone or stealing something will send someone to hell just as quickly as living in sexual sin will. Any sin can be repented of and forgiven. There is no ranking of sin.

For your information, the New Testament hasn't been around for 3600 years and it is part of the Bible

The goyim bible , no one elses

 

[ninja007]

I agree that covetting is a major struggle with our modern society. Look how many people want to take money from people to have it redistributed by corrupt politicians trying to buy your vote.

Better still, look how many people are so greedy they want to cut welfare out when not that much of their tax money goes to welfare, didn't Jesus tell us to take care of the poor?
The majority of people on welfare are children, seniors and handicap people, yet many conservatives don't care, claim that all people on welfare are just lazy.

Jesus wouldn't want big government forcing people; thats why there is this thing called charity- which conservatives know a lot more about as well as give way more than libs.

 

[Mertex]

Jesus wouldn't want big government forcing people; thats why there is this thing called charity- which conservatives know a lot more about as well as give way more than libs.

Jesus never spoke against government, even when he was being wrongly accused. In fact, He told his disciples to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". He also tells his followers to "obey" the government, and to pray for the leaders, which many Christian conservatives seem to have overlooked.

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior…” -1 Timothy 2:1-3

Romans 13:
1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

And yes, we have charity, but you have no way of knowing that conservatives give way more than libs. You are going by a few who have to declare it in their taxes, and that is no proper way to measure it. The money that is given to the "church" which is considered charity, wouldn't come close to covering the needs of all the poor people we have in the US, and Jesus told us to take care of the poor. Most of the money that is given to the church goes to the upkeep and Admin purposes of the church - to pay for salaries, carpeting, air-conditioning/heating, and other church related expenses. My church has a pantry, but doesn't have the wherewithall to check every person's background that comes to get food, and can't begin to take care of all the other needs the families may have. Other charities, like Red Cross, Salvation Army, Wounded Warriors, don't ask a donor's political affiliation, so you and other conservatives like to pat yourselves on the back as great givers, but you really don't have facts to back you up on the claim that you give more than libs.

 

[ninja007]

Jesus wouldn't want big government forcing people; thats why there is this thing called charity- which conservatives know a lot more about as well as give way more than libs.

Jesus never spoke against government, even when he was being wrongly accused. In fact, He told his disciples to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". He also tells his followers to "obey" the government, and to pray for the leaders, which many Christian conservatives seem to have overlooked.

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior…” -1 Timothy 2:1-3

Romans 13:
1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

And yes, we have charity, but you have no way of knowing that conservatives give way more than libs. You are going by a few who have to declare it in their taxes, and that is no proper way to measure it. The money that is given to the "church" which is considered charity, wouldn't come close to covering the needs of all the poor people we have in the US, and Jesus told us to take care of the poor. Most of the money that is given to the church goes to the upkeep and Admin purposes of the church - to pay for salaries, carpeting, air-conditioning/heating, and other church related expenses. My church has a pantry, but doesn't have the wherewithall to check every person's background that comes to get food, and can't begin to take care of all the other needs the families may have. Other charities, like Red Cross, Salvation Army, Wounded Warriors, don't ask a donor's political affiliation, so you and other conservatives like to pat yourselves on the back as great givers, but you really don't have facts to back you up on the claim that you give more than libs.

I GUESS YOU MISSED THIS;

Google

 

[Mertex]

Jesus wouldn't want big government forcing people; thats why there is this thing called charity- which conservatives know a lot more about as well as give way more than libs.

Jesus never spoke against government, even when he was being wrongly accused. In fact, He told his disciples to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". He also tells his followers to "obey" the government, and to pray for the leaders, which many Christian conservatives seem to have overlooked.

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior…” -1 Timothy 2:1-3

Romans 13:
1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

And yes, we have charity, but you have no way of knowing that conservatives give way more than libs. You are going by a few who have to declare it in their taxes, and that is no proper way to measure it. The money that is given to the "church" which is considered charity, wouldn't come close to covering the needs of all the poor people we have in the US, and Jesus told us to take care of the poor. Most of the money that is given to the church goes to the upkeep and Admin purposes of the church - to pay for salaries, carpeting, air-conditioning/heating, and other church related expenses. My church has a pantry, but doesn't have the wherewithall to check every person's background that comes to get food, and can't begin to take care of all the other needs the families may have. Other charities, like Red Cross, Salvation Army, Wounded Warriors, don't ask a donor's political affiliation, so you and other conservatives like to pat yourselves on the back as great givers, but you really don't have facts to back you up on the claim that you give more than libs.

I GUESS YOU MISSED THIS;

Google

No, I didn't miss it.....I made reference to that in my post...which you probably didn't bother reading. But, I guess you missed this one, that was among others in the link that you posted. And, like I said, giving to the church is not necessarily helping the poor, as you would like to believe.

Do conservatives give more away? According to a new study by two MIT political scientists, not really.

Using a dataset which uses more traditional questions to test political beliefs - the General Social Survey - they found no statistically significant relationship between peoples' political beliefs, or their partisan affiliation, and their charitable giving level. And this held at the state level too. There was no significant relationship between a state's level of giving and the vote share that Bush received in that state in 2004.

Conservative individuals and individuals in red states were more likely to donate to religious organizations, a finding that Margolis and Sances found to be statistically significant:

But Margolis and Sances' work should put to rest the idea that liberals and conservatives differ in the level, rather than the form, of their charitable giving.
Study Conservatives and liberals are equally charitable but they give to different charities - The Washington Post



So, you do believe in redistribution of wealth?

Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider

 

[sealybobo]

So what rank is being Gay on the Sin chart?

Seems to me that the "Covet" sin is the big one today according to the 10 Commandments.

Explain to me why being Judgemental of a Sinner when being told "Do not judge or be judged" is a good thing.

I'm all ears.

Luke 17:34-35 teaches that sexually active gays and lesbians are not automatically consigned to perdition.
I tell you, in that night,
there shall be two men in one bed;
the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(Luke 17:34-35, KJV)

“There shall be two women grinding together.” In the Hebrew Bible, “grind” is used as an acceptable euphemism for sexual intercourse in at least four places: Job 31:10, Judges 16:21, Isaiah 47:2-3, and Lamentations 5:13. I will discuss three of them here. Job uses “grind” as a euphemism for sexual intercourse when he defends himself against his pious accuser-friends.

Grind: Job 31:10
The Book of Job is written in Hebrew poetry. Hebrew poetry does not rhyme, but is written in couplets that are usually parallel thoughts using the same number of words. Job contains these couplets:

If mine heart have been deceived by a woman,
or if I have laid wait at my neighbor’s door;
then let my wife grind unto another,
and let others bow down upon her. (Job 31: 9-10, KJV)

 

[yiostheoy]

So what rank is being Gay on the Sin chart?

Seems to me that the "Covet" sin is the big one today according to the 10 Commandments.

Explain to me why being Judgemental of a Sinner when being told "Do not judge or be judged" is a good thing.

I'm all ears.

The 10 Commandments are simply guidelines for the migrating Israelites. Nothing magical about them.

There is a list of capital (chop off your head) offenses in Moses' writings:

Adultery

Bestiality

Homosexuality

Murder.

 

[The Professor]

So what rank is being Gay on the Sin chart?

Seems to me that the "Covet" sin is the big one today according to the 10 Commandments.

Explain to me why being Judgemental of a Sinner when being told "Do not judge or be judged" is a good thing.

I'm all ears.

Luke 17:34-35 teaches that sexually active gays and lesbians are not automatically consigned to perdition.
I tell you, in that night,
there shall be two men in one bed;
the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(Luke 17:34-35, KJV)

“There shall be two women grinding together.” In the Hebrew Bible, “grind” is used as an acceptable euphemism for sexual intercourse in at least four places: Job 31:10, Judges 16:21, Isaiah 47:2-3, and Lamentations 5:13. I will discuss three of them here. Job uses “grind” as a euphemism for sexual intercourse when he defends himself against his pious accuser-friends.

Grind: Job 31:10
The Book of Job is written in Hebrew poetry. Hebrew poetry does not rhyme, but is written in couplets that are usually parallel thoughts using the same number of words. Job contains these couplets:

If mine heart have been deceived by a woman,
or if I have laid wait at my neighbor’s door;
then let my wife grind unto another,
and let others bow down upon her. (Job 31: 9-10, KJV)

I think you are reading far too much much into the KJV interpretation of the Bible.. You assume that two men in the same bed are gay and that “two women who are grinding together” are performing a lesbian act. If you had even a rudimentary knowledge of the Bible you would know that homosexuality and lesbianism are condemned in the strongest language imaginable.

First of all, there are often instances where two (or more) men share the same bed or the same foxhole, It is sad you don't know that. There are times when men will huddle together for warmth in survival situations. I remember when I shared a bed with another man and the least of our concerns was sexual intimacy. We both prayed for the same thing: the blessed relief of sleep. Second, the word “grinding” refers to the act of grinding grain. The fact that you thought grinding could only refer to lesbian acts is unforgivable ignorant. Here are several other versions of the Bible that might help you:

“I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left” (NIV).

“I tell you, on that night [when Messiah comes again] there will be two [sleeping] in one bed; the [i]one (the non-believer) will be taken [away in judgment] and the [j]other (the believer) will be left. 35 There will be two women grinding [at the mill] together; the [k]one (the non-believer) will be taken [away in judgment] and the other (the believer) will be left” (Amplified Bible).

"That night there may be two people sleeping in one room. One will be taken and the other will be left. There may be two women working together. One will be taken and the other will be left” (Easy to Read Versions or ERV)

“On that night, I tell you, there will be two people sleeping in the same bed: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind. Two women will be grinding meal together: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind.” (Good News Translation).

“That night two men will be asleep in the same room, and one will be taken away, the other left. Two women will be working together at household tasks; one will be taken, the other left; and so it will be with men working side by side in the fields.” (Living Bible or TLB).

“I tell you, on that night two men will be in one bed; the one will be taken and the other will be left. Two women will be grinding grain together; the one will be taken and the other will be left” (Modern English Version or MEV).

“I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left” (New American Standard Bib le or NASB)

“I tell you, on that night two people will be sleeping in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding grain together; one will be taken, and the other will be left” (New Century Version).

CONCLUSION: Your Biblical ignorance is obvious. Your futile attempts to justify homosexuality and lesbianism by your quoted verses demonstrates that you are obsessed with promoting the homosexual/lesbian agenda with total disregard for the truth. Look, I couldn't care less who or how you screw; however when you try to justify/defend your choices based upon deception - especially misquoting the Bible – I care one hell of a lot. For your information I started studying the Bible when I was twelve years old and I am now seventy-eight. There are posters on this site who know the Bible as well or better than I do. You are not in that illustrious group.

I will give you the last word. I have no desire to waste the few precious moments of my life in fruitless debates with those feeble-brained, arrogant blowhards who possess tons of ego and not one damn ounce of integrity or common sense.

 

[The Professor]

So what rank is being Gay on the Sin chart?

Seems to me that the "Covet" sin is the big one today according to the 10 Commandments.

Explain to me why being Judgemental of a Sinner when being told "Do not judge or be judged" is a good thing.

I'm all ears.

The 10 Commandments are simply guidelines for the migrating Israelites. Nothing magical about them.

There is a list of capital (chop off your head) offenses in Moses' writings:

Adultery

Bestiality

Homosexuality

Murder.

There is an old joke.

God spoke to the Buddhists and asked them if they wanted any commandments. The Buddhists asked what they were and God replied they were a system of laws governing religion and morality. The Buddhists responded they had their own system and didn't want any more regulations.

Then God spoke to the Hindus asking them if they wanted any commandments. The Hindus asked what they were and God replied they were a system of laws governing religion and morality. The Hindus responded their God had already shown them the right path they didn't want any more regulations.

Finally God spoke to the Jews and asked them if they wanted any commandments. The Jews of course asked what they were and God dutifully replied the were a system of laws governing religion and morality. The Jews responded, “How much are they?,” to which the Lord replied, “they are free.” “OK,. Said the Jews, we'll take ten.”

The rest is history.

 

[there4eyeM]

For a Christian, homosexuality isn't even on the scale. Only one sin is unforgivable according to the words of Jesus, and it has nothing to do with this.

 

[sealybobo]

So what rank is being Gay on the Sin chart?

Seems to me that the "Covet" sin is the big one today according to the 10 Commandments.

Explain to me why being Judgemental of a Sinner when being told "Do not judge or be judged" is a good thing.

I'm all ears.

Luke 17:34-35 teaches that sexually active gays and lesbians are not automatically consigned to perdition.
I tell you, in that night,
there shall be two men in one bed;
the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(Luke 17:34-35, KJV)

“There shall be two women grinding together.” In the Hebrew Bible, “grind” is used as an acceptable euphemism for sexual intercourse in at least four places: Job 31:10, Judges 16:21, Isaiah 47:2-3, and Lamentations 5:13. I will discuss three of them here. Job uses “grind” as a euphemism for sexual intercourse when he defends himself against his pious accuser-friends.

Grind: Job 31:10
The Book of Job is written in Hebrew poetry. Hebrew poetry does not rhyme, but is written in couplets that are usually parallel thoughts using the same number of words. Job contains these couplets:

If mine heart have been deceived by a woman,
or if I have laid wait at my neighbor’s door;
then let my wife grind unto another,
and let others bow down upon her. (Job 31: 9-10, KJV)

I think you are reading far too much much into the KJV interpretation of the Bible.. You assume that two men in the same bed are gay and that “two women who are grinding together” are performing a lesbian act. If you had even a rudimentary knowledge of the Bible you would know that homosexuality and lesbianism are condemned in the strongest language imaginable.

First of all, there are often instances where two (or more) men share the same bed or the same foxhole, It is sad you don't know that. There are times when men will huddle together for warmth in survival situations. I remember when I shared a bed with another man and the least of our concerns was sexual intimacy. We both prayed for the same thing: the blessed relief of sleep. Second, the word “grinding” refers to the act of grinding grain. The fact that you thought grinding could only refer to lesbian acts is unforgivable ignorant. Here are several other versions of the Bible that might help you:

“I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left” (NIV).

“I tell you, on that night [when Messiah comes again] there will be two [sleeping] in one bed; the [i]one (the non-believer) will be taken [away in judgment] and the [j]other (the believer) will be left. 35 There will be two women grinding [at the mill] together; the [k]one (the non-believer) will be taken [away in judgment] and the other (the believer) will be left” (Amplified Bible).

"That night there may be two people sleeping in one room. One will be taken and the other will be left. There may be two women working together. One will be taken and the other will be left” (Easy to Read Versions or ERV)

“On that night, I tell you, there will be two people sleeping in the same bed: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind. Two women will be grinding meal together: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind.” (Good News Translation).

“That night two men will be asleep in the same room, and one will be taken away, the other left. Two women will be working together at household tasks; one will be taken, the other left; and so it will be with men working side by side in the fields.” (Living Bible or TLB).

“I tell you, on that night two men will be in one bed; the one will be taken and the other will be left. Two women will be grinding grain together; the one will be taken and the other will be left” (Modern English Version or MEV).

“I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left” (New American Standard Bib le or NASB)

“I tell you, on that night two people will be sleeping in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding grain together; one will be taken, and the other will be left” (New Century Version).

CONCLUSION: Your Biblical ignorance is obvious. Your futile attempts to justify homosexuality and lesbianism by your quoted verses demonstrates that you are obsessed with promoting the homosexual/lesbian agenda with total disregard for the truth. Look, I couldn't care less who or how you screw; however when you try to justify/defend your choices based upon deception - especially misquoting the Bible – I care one hell of a lot. For your information I started studying the Bible when I was twelve years old and I am now seventy-eight. There are posters on this site who know the Bible as well or better than I do. You are not in that illustrious group.

I will give you the last word. I have no desire to waste the few precious moments of my life in fruitless debates with those feeble-brained, arrogant blowhards who possess tons of ego and not one damn ounce of integrity or common sense.

They added the word grain. Grain wasn’t in my version of the Bible. Your Bible is edited.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, the only Commandments that were given by God to mankind were the 7 Noahide Commandments, or the 10 Commandments given to Moses.

Anything else is mainly commentary by men who wrote the various books of the Bible.

In my view, if it ain't against the Big 10, it's not a sin.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What Rank Is Gay On The Sin Chart?

Somebody needs to start a religion where it is a sin to NOT be gay.

 

[harmonica]

there is no such thing as sin/or god/etc