What Obama Should DO Next

[Avatar4321]

Quit

Get ready for impeachment.

Yep..that's the way you guys deal with Democracy.

Dealing with democracy is completely irrelevant in a Republic.

 

[The T]

Quit

Get ready for impeachment.

Yep..that's the way you guys deal with Democracy.

We aren't a Democracy. But you run with it, will you?

Just as rabid Democrats handle Wisconsin, California...thwart the will of the people.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Gee, another " I love Obama" thread from the independent one. What a Democrat hack.

 

[Listening]

What Obama Should Do Next. Is he Re-Electable? This is a question that those on the Far Right would immediately answer with a resounding "No!". On the other side, you have the Far Left with the opposite opinion. Right now, it looks like (barring an X-Factor), Obama will probably win a close race. My personal estimate is Obama 290, Romney 248.
I thought Obama made a huge mistake with the whole Birth Control thing but it seems it was a very shrewd red herring on his part. According to right-leaning Gallup, it has cost him nothing among Catholics. Also, Catholic Health Systems has issued a press release thanking President Obama for his compromise. But the GOP is discussing it every day. This occupies twice the news time as gas prices and much more than unemployment. Oops.
As seen below, as of 3/1/12 his current lead over Romney in the combined average of seven polls is +6 points:
Rasmussen Tracking 2/28 - 3/1 1500 LV 48 42 Obama +6
Politico/GWU/Battleground 2/19 - 2/22 1000 LV 53 43 Obama +10
USA Today/Gallup 2/20 - 2/21 881 RV 47 47 Tie
Associated Press/GfK 2/16 - 2/20 1000 A 51 43 Obama +8
Quinnipiac 2/14 - 2/20 2605 RV 46 44 Obama +2
Democracy Corps (D) 2/11 - 2/14 1000 LV 49 45 Obama +4
CNN/Opinion Research 2/10 - 2/13 937 RV 51 46 Obama +5

Prior to the Birth Control issue, he led Romney by only 2 points. This issue is obviously working in his favor.
Now it's time to get smart again. His talk about green technology liberating us from a long term problem is appealing to his base but we Independents aren't as impressed. Now I don't complain about gas prices because it was my choice to buy a ginormous gas-guzzling sedan. But I'm the exception to the rule. Regardless of T. Boone Pickens' assertion that politicians don't determine prices, a lot of people will blame Obama anyway. And they have a point. He may not have caused them but he can effect them.
Obama should state that yes, he's continuing his Green Program or whatever the hell it's called AND he's immediately lifting the ban on offshore drilling. Better us than China and Cuba. He should announce the acceleration of the EIS for Keystone XL and that he will approve a route within three weeks. He should make it clear he is opening the floodgates to allow domestic more domestic leases. Leave the SPR alone. ANWAR isn't necessarily needed either. Open offshore drilling, public land leases and Keystone XL, and the speculators are going to have a VERY hard time justifying $5 a gallon. It will offer the additional benefit of sending OPEC a clear message that we are serious about providing for ourselves.
What then? Throw out a couple more diversionary issues. Grutter v. Bollinger is going before the Supreme Court soon. Obama has publicly stated that he doesn't support Affirmative Action as practiced at the University of Michigan. But he should publicly announce that he feels this is a very important issue.
He should also put out some soundbites that he feels the examination and striking down of racial profiling etc... as proposed in AZ SB1070 (the AZ immigration law) is a huge victory for Real Americans. Put it in words just like that. Inflame the Far Right. If they run with it to the Extreme Right the way they have about birth control, Obama is guaranteed the minority vote.
The final two strategies I think he should implement are:
#1. Attack the GOP using only the words of non-Democrats.
"Moody's stated the reason for the downgrade was directly attributable to the inability of the US Congress' to approve the debt ceiling."
"I would not have bailed out the auto industry."
"The GOP took a pledge that they would take no action that will result in an increase in taxes - until it comes to one that benefits the Middle Class."
"Mitt Romney doesn't care about the Middle Class." and so on from Newt Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann et. al.
#2. I think he's been sand-bagging and is just waiting to do this: Brag about his record of accomplishments. Now of course, The Far Right will go into denial about every fact, figure and anything else that makes Obama look good. But they don't count. Like the Far Left, they don't determine elections.
Regardless of what they say, Obama has a lot of facts working in his favor as far as his record for the last year. Not opinons or spin. Facts that only the Extreme Right even try to deny. It's time for him to quite being so darn humble!
(LOL! I Know our Extreme Conservative friends are going to love that one!).
Facts:
* Dow has gone up over 85% since Obama took office.
* GDP is up.
* Unemployment has been on a consistent downward trend.
* Manufacturing is up.
* GM & Chrysler are showing profits.
* We got Osama bin Laden
* We're out of Iraq.
* We've announced the withdrawal from Afghanistan. No more Bush wars.
* We got in and out of Libya without huge cost or casualties.
* He repealed DADT.
* He refunded the Veterans Administration and double the counselors.
* Closed the hole in MediCare for seniors.

I'm not saying Obama is responsible for all those things. American voters don't read long, detailed articles and posts. They listen to 15 - 30 second soundbites. There are a lot of soundbites in the list above.

Barring the X-Factor, I see Obama winning 290 to 248. Better if it's not Romney.

The fact that I'm voting for Obama this year doesn't make me a Democrat. That's what The RIght wishes. What it means is that Obama does better with Independents than the GOP candidates are doing.

Oh and for the whackjobs out there. The fact that I'm voting for Obama this year doesn't make me a Democrat. That's what you wish. What it means is that Obama does better with Independents than your guys do. Those of you who can't tackle issues and facts (you know who you are ) will post about me instead of the topics covered above. SO easy to predict...

Bend over and kiss his skinny ass good-bye.

 

[007]

Quit

Get ready for impeachment.

Yep..that's the way you guys deal with Democracy.

Yeah... tell that to Governor Scott Walker.

I'll tell ya, if I kept track of all the HYPOCRISY I see on here by the left on a daily basis, I'd fill my 1 terabyte hard drive saving it inside of a month.

 

[IndependntLogic]

Gallup is right leaning?

Who knew?

Informed people. Democrats. Independents. Moderates. People who didn't ride the little bus to school... If you look at the polls over the last weeks, you'll see that Rasmussen and Gallup lean right and Democracy Corps lean left. if you need anymore help, just let me know!

Other than that, that's quite a display of cheerleading. Yay!

Let me dumb this down for you junior because well, lots of Conservatards out there seem pretty clueless about it:

An "Independent" is NOT someone who agrees with whackjob ConservaRepubs all the time.
They don't agree with Way Left LibDems all the time.

We are able to acknowledge that ObamaCare sucks. (see, this is what is called a position that is neither Liberal nor Democrat)
Yet we are able to acknowledge that Obama did well in tracking and taking out Bin Laden. (that is called not agreeing with you all the time = You must be a Liberal! )

But we DO decide the elections. So the fact that I am definitely voting for Obama this year says much less about whether or not I'm an Independent, than it does about the fact that only the kool-aid drinking drones (and you know who you are), think the GOP is in good shape right now.

Glad I could help!

 

[Ernie S.]

The Senate....

Highly probable.

actually the way you look now, you might have trouble holding the House.

but it's always good to make up things without any basis other than your own fantasies.

try starting with the fact that olympia snowe's seat is probably going to go to a democrat.

and anthony weiner's house seat will probably go back to a democrat.

that's just a start even at this early date. the GOP congress has a far lower approval rating than the president.

see... you need to make these evaluations without looking at things through obama deranged lenses.

Odds are not good for a Democrat taking the Snow seat. It the last 100 years, the 2 Maine Senate seats have been held by democrats for just 47 years, 35 of which were Muskie and Mitchell's 36 year stretch.

 

[Immanuel]

What should President Obama do now?

My suggestion would be to resign and move to Cuba or Venezuela. I have the feeling he would feel right at home in either one of those two countries seeing as how he has zero respect for personal liberties of the masses.

Immie

 

[IndependntLogic]

What should President Obama do now?

My suggestion would be to resign and move to Cuba or Venezuela. I have the feeling he would feel right at home in either one of those two countries seeing as how he has zero respect for personal liberties of the masses.

Immie

You know, I see this kind of rhetoric a lot. So I'm curious. I live where I want, do what I want for a living, travel without having to shows papers (well except in AZ) and generally feel pretty dam filled with life, liberty and happiness!

So how specifically has Obama oppressed you? Are you on house arrest? Unable to carry nuclear weapons to the petting zoo? Not allowed to play catch with porcupines in your local balloon factory? Okay all kidding aside, how are you personally affected because of Obama?

 

[rdean]

win

 

[Listening]

What should President Obama do now?

My suggestion would be to resign and move to Cuba or Venezuela. I have the feeling he would feel right at home in either one of those two countries seeing as how he has zero respect for personal liberties of the masses.

Immie

You know, I see this kind of rhetoric a lot. So I'm curious. I live where I want, do what I want for a living, travel without having to shows papers (well except in AZ) and generally feel pretty dam filled with life, liberty and happiness!

So how specifically has Obama oppressed you? Are you on house arrest? Unable to carry nuclear weapons to the petting zoo? Not allowed to play catch with porcupines in your local balloon factory? Okay all kidding aside, how are you personally affected because of Obama?

Loss of liberty can come in the form of lost economic power.

 

[IndependntLogic]

What should President Obama do now?

My suggestion would be to resign and move to Cuba or Venezuela. I have the feeling he would feel right at home in either one of those two countries seeing as how he has zero respect for personal liberties of the masses.

Immie

You know, I see this kind of rhetoric a lot. So I'm curious. I live where I want, do what I want for a living, travel without having to shows papers (well except in AZ) and generally feel pretty dam filled with life, liberty and happiness!

So how specifically has Obama oppressed you? Are you on house arrest? Unable to carry nuclear weapons to the petting zoo? Not allowed to play catch with porcupines in your local balloon factory? Okay all kidding aside, how are you personally affected because of Obama?

Loss of liberty can come in the form of lost economic power.

Did you lose your job? Receive a cut in pay? have your taxes raised to pay for Fluke's birth control?
Frankly, we're enjoying more economic power than we have in years! And I own a national executive recruiting firm. Think about that.

 

[Listening]

You know, I see this kind of rhetoric a lot. So I'm curious. I live where I want, do what I want for a living, travel without having to shows papers (well except in AZ) and generally feel pretty dam filled with life, liberty and happiness!

So how specifically has Obama oppressed you? Are you on house arrest? Unable to carry nuclear weapons to the petting zoo? Not allowed to play catch with porcupines in your local balloon factory? Okay all kidding aside, how are you personally affected because of Obama?

Loss of liberty can come in the form of lost economic power.

Did you lose your job? Receive a cut in pay? have your taxes raised to pay for Fluke's birth control?
Frankly, we're enjoying more economic power than we have in years! And I own a national executive recruiting firm. Think about that.

Once again, you (like so many others) only look at the moment.

When it was pointed out that S.S. would be the mess it is now (and tell me how much economic power that is costing your clients right now) to one of it's advocates.....(but in the future), the response was "We'll be dead by then.".

That loss of power will come as a result of his policies.

If you think that there is no lag in the effects of a president.....you are kidding yourself.

What does your "owning a firm" have to do with anything ?

I have more money now because of the payroll tax cut. Who pays for that ???? My kids.

 

[IndependntLogic]

Loss of liberty can come in the form of lost economic power.

Did you lose your job? Receive a cut in pay? have your taxes raised to pay for Fluke's birth control?
Frankly, we're enjoying more economic power than we have in years! And I own a national executive recruiting firm. Think about that.

Once again, you (like so many others) only look at the moment.

So were you this adamant about this under Bush? Just curious.

When it was pointed out that S.S. would be the mess it is now (and tell me how much economic power that is costing your clients right now) to one of it's advocates.....(but in the future), the response was "We'll be dead by then.".

That loss of power will come as a result of his policies.

Obama alone eh? Sorry. I'm not buying the "Obama is to blame for all of America's problems" thing.

If you think that there is no lag in the effects of a president.....you are kidding yourself.

No I understand. Deregulation has caused all of the worst economic downturns in our country's history.

What does your "owning a firm" have to do with anything ?

It's an employment firm. Can you see where that might be relevant?

I have more money now because of the payroll tax cut. Who pays for that ???? My kids.

Did you complain when the GOP wanted to extend the Bush Tax cuts without paying for them? That was 100x more expensive than this. BTW, I'm not saying you didn't complain, I'm just trying to get an idea of your ideology & objectivity.

 

[IndependntLogic]

What Obama Should Do Next. Is he Re-Electable? This is a question that those on the Far Right would immediately answer with a resounding "No!". On the other side, you have the Far Left with the opposite opinion. Right now, it looks like (barring an X-Factor), Obama will probably win a close race. My personal estimate is Obama 290, Romney 248.
I thought Obama made a huge mistake with the whole Birth Control thing but it seems it was a very shrewd red herring on his part. According to right-leaning Gallup, it has cost him nothing among Catholics. Also, Catholic Health Systems has issued a press release thanking President Obama for his compromise. But the GOP is discussing it every day. This occupies twice the news time as gas prices and much more than unemployment. Oops.
As seen below, as of 3/1/12 his current lead over Romney in the combined average of seven polls is +6 points:
Rasmussen Tracking 2/28 - 3/1 1500 LV 48 42 Obama +6
Politico/GWU/Battleground 2/19 - 2/22 1000 LV 53 43 Obama +10
USA Today/Gallup 2/20 - 2/21 881 RV 47 47 Tie
Associated Press/GfK 2/16 - 2/20 1000 A 51 43 Obama +8
Quinnipiac 2/14 - 2/20 2605 RV 46 44 Obama +2
Democracy Corps (D) 2/11 - 2/14 1000 LV 49 45 Obama +4
CNN/Opinion Research 2/10 - 2/13 937 RV 51 46 Obama +5

Prior to the Birth Control issue, he led Romney by only 2 points. This issue is obviously working in his favor.
Now it's time to get smart again. His talk about green technology liberating us from a long term problem is appealing to his base but we Independents aren't as impressed. Now I don't complain about gas prices because it was my choice to buy a ginormous gas-guzzling sedan. But I'm the exception to the rule. Regardless of T. Boone Pickens' assertion that politicians don't determine prices, a lot of people will blame Obama anyway. And they have a point. He may not have caused them but he can effect them.
Obama should state that yes, he's continuing his Green Program or whatever the hell it's called AND he's immediately lifting the ban on offshore drilling. Better us than China and Cuba. He should announce the acceleration of the EIS for Keystone XL and that he will approve a route within three weeks. He should make it clear he is opening the floodgates to allow domestic more domestic leases. Leave the SPR alone. ANWAR isn't necessarily needed either. Open offshore drilling, public land leases and Keystone XL, and the speculators are going to have a VERY hard time justifying $5 a gallon. It will offer the additional benefit of sending OPEC a clear message that we are serious about providing for ourselves.
What then? Throw out a couple more diversionary issues. Grutter v. Bollinger is going before the Supreme Court soon. Obama has publicly stated that he doesn't support Affirmative Action as practiced at the University of Michigan. But he should publicly announce that he feels this is a very important issue.
He should also put out some soundbites that he feels the examination and striking down of racial profiling etc... as proposed in AZ SB1070 (the AZ immigration law) is a huge victory for Real Americans. Put it in words just like that. Inflame the Far Right. If they run with it to the Extreme Right the way they have about birth control, Obama is guaranteed the minority vote.
The final two strategies I think he should implement are:
#1. Attack the GOP using only the words of non-Democrats.
"Moody's stated the reason for the downgrade was directly attributable to the inability of the US Congress' to approve the debt ceiling."
"I would not have bailed out the auto industry."
"The GOP took a pledge that they would take no action that will result in an increase in taxes - until it comes to one that benefits the Middle Class."
"Mitt Romney doesn't care about the Middle Class." and so on from Newt Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann et. al.
#2. I think he's been sand-bagging and is just waiting to do this: Brag about his record of accomplishments. Now of course, The Far Right will go into denial about every fact, figure and anything else that makes Obama look good. But they don't count. Like the Far Left, they don't determine elections.
Regardless of what they say, Obama has a lot of facts working in his favor as far as his record for the last year. Not opinons or spin. Facts that only the Extreme Right even try to deny. It's time for him to quite being so darn humble!
(LOL! I Know our Extreme Conservative friends are going to love that one!).
Facts:
* Dow has gone up over 85% since Obama took office.
* GDP is up.
* Unemployment has been on a consistent downward trend.
* Manufacturing is up.
* GM & Chrysler are showing profits.
* We got Osama bin Laden
* We're out of Iraq.
* We've announced the withdrawal from Afghanistan. No more Bush wars.
* We got in and out of Libya without huge cost or casualties.
* He repealed DADT.
* He refunded the Veterans Administration and double the counselors.
* Closed the hole in MediCare for seniors.

I'm not saying Obama is responsible for all those things. American voters don't read long, detailed articles and posts. They listen to 15 - 30 second soundbites. There are a lot of soundbites in the list above.

Barring the X-Factor, I see Obama winning 290 to 248. Better if it's not Romney.

The fact that I'm voting for Obama this year doesn't make me a Democrat. That's what The RIght wishes. What it means is that Obama does better with Independents than the GOP candidates are doing.

Oh and for the whackjobs out there. The fact that I'm voting for Obama this year doesn't make me a Democrat. That's what you wish. What it means is that Obama does better with Independents than your guys do. Those of you who can't tackle issues and facts (you know who you are ) will post about me instead of the topics covered above. SO easy to predict...:lol:

You're such a left wing hack Dependent Illogic.

LOL! and you're so weak and predictible (see bold) . So what did I post that wasn't factual? Ya see junior, being Independent doesn't mean agreeing with the whackjobs on the Right (or Left) all the time. That's why we're independent.
So what above is not factual?
Oh wait, you can't handle issues, facts etc.... can you? OK, NM then...

 

[Listening]

Did you complain when the GOP wanted to extend the Bush Tax cuts without paying for them? That was 100x more expensive than this. BTW, I'm not saying you didn't complain, I'm just trying to get an idea of your ideology & objectivity.

A legitimate question.

Complain....no.

Spend them....no.

Which is what he wanted us to do.

Sooner or later, the bill comes due. I don't like all our social programs...they hurt our liberties by taking money away from us. They also create a class of individuals who feel entitled to that money....

I would have prefered, Bush cut spending....as in not go to war and then give us tax cuts.

One of my complaints about the war (I was against it from before it's start) was that we didn't share in the pain. We were not asked to sacrifice anything.

 

[Immanuel]

What should President Obama do now?

My suggestion would be to resign and move to Cuba or Venezuela. I have the feeling he would feel right at home in either one of those two countries seeing as how he has zero respect for personal liberties of the masses.

Immie

You know, I see this kind of rhetoric a lot. So I'm curious. I live where I want, do what I want for a living, travel without having to shows papers (well except in AZ) and generally feel pretty dam filled with life, liberty and happiness!

So how specifically has Obama oppressed you? Are you on house arrest? Unable to carry nuclear weapons to the petting zoo? Not allowed to play catch with porcupines in your local balloon factory? Okay all kidding aside, how are you personally affected because of Obama?

Two quick and off the cuff replies. Obamacare and NDAA. A third is his continued suport of the Patriot Act. I'm sure others can help me with other answers.

What would be really nice is if he convinced his colleagues in both houses of Congress and both parties to join him.

Immie

 

[Immanuel]

You know, I see this kind of rhetoric a lot. So I'm curious. I live where I want, do what I want for a living, travel without having to shows papers (well except in AZ) and generally feel pretty dam filled with life, liberty and happiness!

So how specifically has Obama oppressed you? Are you on house arrest? Unable to carry nuclear weapons to the petting zoo? Not allowed to play catch with porcupines in your local balloon factory? Okay all kidding aside, how are you personally affected because of Obama?

Loss of liberty can come in the form of lost economic power.

Did you lose your job? Receive a cut in pay? have your taxes raised to pay for Fluke's birth control?
Frankly, we're enjoying more economic power than we have in years! And I own a national executive recruiting firm. Think about that.

Yes, I did lose my job... January 24, 2010. Got one that only lasted a very short time at the end of 2011. For most of Obama's tenure, life has royally sucked for those who lost jobs.

Immie

 

[kaz]

What Obama Should DO Next

He should resign and go back to Chicago

 

[IndependntLogic]

Loss of liberty can come in the form of lost economic power.

Did you lose your job? Receive a cut in pay? have your taxes raised to pay for Fluke's birth control?
Frankly, we're enjoying more economic power than we have in years! And I own a national executive recruiting firm. Think about that.

Yes, I did lose my job... January 24, 2010. Got one that only lasted a very short time at the end of 2011. For most of Obama's tenure, life has royally sucked for those who lost jobs.

Immie

Wow I'm sorry to hear that. Did you refuse the extended unemployment benefits then? I know people who are VERY grateful the GOP didn't get their wish to stop and then eliminate them. They are looking as hard as they would be otherwise, the only difference being they're not starving in the streets thanks to the Dems. Now, many of them are finding work - thank God.
So what did Obama do that cost you your job?