What Obama killed......

Agree w/ the above 57Frank. How are you going to manage if/when the President is reelected? :( You know he's got a $1,000,000,000 in his war chest right? :)
 
But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?

We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win!
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57Frank & other like- minded, butthurt people's heads will explode when our President is reelected :lol:

What's really funny, is that, in a perfect World, he would be dealing with Indictment, not Reelection. ;) :lol:

In the End We get what we deserve..... And .... we really fucked up this time. :eusa_whistle:

4 more years of Musical Chairs and crashing the Economy doesn't make me want to Party.
 
Humor???? The free market sans regulation killed our credit rating, along with Reagan, Clinton, and Bush Jr. As for the space program allow me to repost.

This is one area in which I have mixed concerns or even considerations. Going up into space gives us what exactly? Hubble was amazing and that seemed valuable, but sending people up there reminds me of when the rich went to the shore or the mountains to escape the heat and crowded city. Our bridges are falling down, our inner city schools are a wreak, our museums need work, and more than anything else our education system needs values. Space seems uninteresting. And when you get into particle physics there's no need to go up, just look down.

As for private business doing anything, that was always a joke and a dream of libertarian types. All the great accomplishments of this country came from people and from government. Research in America has taken a back seat as money wants the stock to rise the hell with how. Consider Bell Labs as an example, today Bell labs is in China. JFK sent us to the moon and it was about the cold war and sputnik, time we all woke up to take care of the earth and the place we walk on. Motivation is often neglected in analyzing these developments.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"

PS I do like my titanium bicycle, I read that was developed during the space program. Join us all in the value conflict. Healthy children or rocket ships.
 
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Humor???? The free market sans regulation killed our credit rating, along with Reagan, Clinton, and Bush Jr. As for the space program allow me to repost.

This is one area in which I have mixed concerns or even considerations. Going up into space gives us what exactly? Hubble was amazing and that seemed valuable, but sending people up there reminds me of when the rich went to the shore or the mountains to escape the heat and crowded city. Our bridges are falling down, our inner city schools are a wreak, our museums need work, and more than anything else our education system needs values. Space seems uninteresting. And when you get into particle physics there's no need to go up, just look down.

As for private business doing anything, that was always a joke and a dream of libertarian types. All the great accomplishments of this country came from people and from government. Research in America has taken a back seat as money wants the stock to rise the hell with how. Consider Bell Labs as an example, today Bell labs is in China. JFK sent us to the moon and it was about the cold war and sputnik, time we all woke up to take care of the earth and the place we walk on. Motivation is often neglected in analyzing these developments.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"

PS I do like my titanium bicycle, I read that was developed during the space program. Join us all in the value conflict. Healthy children or rocket ships.



So, to be clear, Firestone, Edison, Ford, Carnegie, Gates, Jobs, Boeing, Westinghouse and all the rest were idle and ignorant bystanders as government created the dominance of American industry?

As the control of the American government expanded, how much more dominant did American industry become?

Now that government is pervasive, when might we witness the rise of American industrial dominance again?

Please note that in all of the examples above, the ones that occurred post 70's were the dot com types that expanded outside of government regulation due to the lack of regulation for an industry that previously did not exist and as a result was yet to be strangled.

Just wondering how far removed from reality you have become.
 
Agree w/ the above 57Frank. How are you going to manage if/when the President is reelected? :( You know he's got a $1,000,000,000 in his war chest right? :)

Do you know how many Obama Kneepads you can buy with that?

He's going to run the most negative campaign in American history because he cannot run on all the good things he's done for America
 
I will never ever forgive him for 2#. The bastard!!!

He killed the one program that represented undisputed American world leadership.

He does not have American best interest at heart


It seems pretty clear that he has only - ever - had his own interests at heart. I've never heard a president use more personal pronouns in his speeches than this self-obsessed narcissist.
 
Agree w/ the above 57Frank. How are you going to manage if/when the President is reelected? :( You know he's got a $1,000,000,000 in his war chest right? :)

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"Barry, I heard you needed a billion for reelection, guess how much I just stole my from clients?"
 
I will never ever forgive him for 2#. The bastard!!!

He killed the one program that represented undisputed American world leadership.

He does not have American best interest at heart


It seems pretty clear that he has only - ever - had his own interests at heart. I've never heard a president use more personal pronouns in his speeches than this self-obsessed narcissist.

"As I said in Cairo..."
 
Humor???? The free market sans regulation killed our credit rating, along with Reagan, Clinton, and Bush Jr. As for the space program allow me to repost.

This is one area in which I have mixed concerns or even considerations. Going up into space gives us what exactly? Hubble was amazing and that seemed valuable, but sending people up there reminds me of when the rich went to the shore or the mountains to escape the heat and crowded city. Our bridges are falling down, our inner city schools are a wreak, our museums need work, and more than anything else our education system needs values. Space seems uninteresting. And when you get into particle physics there's no need to go up, just look down.

As for private business doing anything, that was always a joke and a dream of libertarian types. All the great accomplishments of this country came from people and from government. Research in America has taken a back seat as money wants the stock to rise the hell with how. Consider Bell Labs as an example, today Bell labs is in China. JFK sent us to the moon and it was about the cold war and sputnik, time we all woke up to take care of the earth and the place we walk on. Motivation is often neglected in analyzing these developments.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"

PS I do like my titanium bicycle, I read that was developed during the space program. Join us all in the value conflict. Healthy children or rocket ships.

Blackhawk Hellstorm Advanced Tactical Knee Pads V.2 Black

You need the tactical kneepads.

Obama killed our credit. Reagan hasn't been President for a while now, Sparky
 
Agree w/ the above 57Frank. How are you going to manage if/when the President is reelected? :( You know he's got a $1,000,000,000 in his war chest right? :)

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