What makes arguing with liberals so frustrating #1

[Conservative65]

I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.

Yes, we do need roads, bridges, highways, jails, schools, aircraft carriers, GPS satellites, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. Saying we don't need subsidies for crummy cars badly built and still with astronomical prices does not mean we don't need highways.

The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst sort of master.

DEAR BARUCH,
You keep telling us that government is incompetent and tends to make big problems worse. Fair enough big guy.

But your side has been saying this every day for 36 years.

Problem is: every time you seize power, you run up the debt like drunken sailors and create terrible messes for future generations.

From Reagan's War on Drugs to Bush's War on Terrorism and Patriot Act, you have proved your thesis that Big Government can't Save the world - yet you never admit of your folly because your news sources only report Liberal failures (in welfare, taxation and regulation). Your job is not to be a mouthpiece for republican bumperstickers but to actually apply your concepts critically and intelligently (otherwise you sound like a repetitive drone).

Consider this Dear Baruch,

The Bush administration's theoretical construction of the War on Terror places more faith in Government competence than anything ever dreamed by FDR or LBJ. Not only did Bush claim that Washington could stop aggression, but he said Washington had the competence to destabilize - THEN - rebuild entire Arab cultures in our image. We were told that once Hussein was removed, the result would be democracy and freedom springing from the rubble.

Even after it became apparent that Bush had created an omnivorous power vacuum and unleashed an ungovernable civil conflict, you kept promising that we were one more surge from glorious freedom, as it became apparent that this region was never going to accept a modern version of American Freedom, and that all we could hope for was perpetual waves of radicalism followed by endless surges . . . ultimately consigning future generations of Americans to an endless and bankrupting game of whack-a-mole.

(Psst: what if government can't do big things? What if it can't rebuild whole foreign nations? What if once entrusted with the power to rebuild whole Arab cultures, our government starts unnecessary wars and fucks up an entire continent for generations? What if you can't see any of this because YOU are the one who trusts big government to do big things, and YOU are the one who should listen to your tired lectures about big government?)

Of course there is a Silver Lining to all the power we gave Bush's Big Government. With the Patriot Act we built the most concentrated, technologically advanced surveillance system of any nation in history. What could go wrong?

(Turn off talk radio and take a long look in the mirror before enlightening the rest of us)

You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

The only thing you seem to have going for you is puckering up to a black President's ass. When you were told growing up that you should be good at something, I doubt that's what was meant by the statement.

 

[Conservative65]

And they're all ignorant dupes of big money greedy idiot billionaires....see sig.

We don't argue with Liberals. We tell you how it is and you choose to be an idiot and not believe us.

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

 

[candycorn]

What makes arguing with liberals so frustrating #1

They are usually right.

 

[browsing deer]

The same lame response from dozens of people that Liberals are right. The op complains that they duck and evade the point, and we see a tired response where they evade. It is a very good way to make the OP's point

 

[hazlnut]

I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.

Yes, we do need roads, bridges, highways, jails, schools, aircraft carriers, GPS satellites, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. Saying we don't need subsidies for crummy cars badly built and still with astronomical prices does not mean we don't need highways.

The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst sort of master.

The big words?


Your argument is simplistic.

Are you in 7th grade?

 

[browsing deer]

I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.

Yes, we do need roads, bridges, highways, jails, schools, aircraft carriers, GPS satellites, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. Saying we don't need subsidies for crummy cars badly built and still with astronomical prices does not mean we don't need highways.

The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst sort of master.

The big words?


Your argument is simplistic.

Are you in 7th grade?

How is the argument simplistic?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

We don't argue with Liberals. We tell you how it is and you choose to be an idiot and not believe us.

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

You already live with socialism, just a bad version of it. And it's not about utopia, it's about capitalism not being the answer to all things. Some things in life are not about making a buck, believe it or not.

Any version of socialism is bad. Hate to break it to you but it is about making a buck and keeping what you earned, believe it or not.

Dogma, and I very much doubt you have any understanding of economics.

 

[browsing deer]

I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.

Yes, we do need roads, bridges, highways, jails, schools, aircraft carriers, GPS satellites, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. Saying we don't need subsidies for crummy cars badly built and still with astronomical prices does not mean we don't need highways.

The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst sort of master.

DEAR BARUCH,
You keep telling us that government is incompetent and tends to make big problems worse. Fair enough big guy.

But your side has been saying this every day for 36 years.

Problem is: every time you seize power, you run up the debt like drunken sailors and create terrible messes for future generations.

From Reagan's War on Drugs to Bush's War on Terrorism and Patriot Act, you have proved your thesis that Big Government can't Save the world - yet you never admit of your folly because your news sources only report Liberal failures (in welfare, taxation and regulation). Your job is not to be a mouthpiece for republican bumperstickers but to actually apply your concepts critically and intelligently (otherwise you sound like a repetitive drone).

Consider this Dear Baruch,

The Bush administration's theoretical construction of the War on Terror places more faith in Government competence than anything ever dreamed by FDR or LBJ. Not only did Bush claim that Washington could stop aggression, but he said Washington had the competence to destabilize - THEN - rebuild entire Arab cultures in our image. We were told that once Hussein was removed, the result would be democracy and freedom springing from the rubble.

Even after it became apparent that Bush had created an omnivorous power vacuum and unleashed an ungovernable civil conflict, you kept promising that we were one more surge from glorious freedom, as it became apparent that this region was never going to accept a modern version of American Freedom, and that all we could hope for was perpetual waves of radicalism followed by endless surges . . . ultimately consigning future generations of Americans to an endless and bankrupting game of whack-a-mole.

(Psst: what if government can't do big things? What if it can't rebuild whole foreign nations? What if once entrusted with the power to rebuild whole Arab cultures, our government starts unnecessary wars and fucks up an entire continent for generations? What if you can't see any of this because YOU are the one who trusts big government to do big things, and YOU are the one who should listen to your tired lectures about big government?)

Of course there is a Silver Lining to all the power we gave Bush's Big Government. With the Patriot Act we built the most concentrated, technologically advanced surveillance system of any nation in history. What could go wrong?

(Turn off talk radio and take a long look in the mirror before enlightening the rest of us)

You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

In a democracy one side or the other gets control of the government for extended periods. It is the nature of democracy that the outs get in once in a while. Because the outs become the ins, shouldn't we protect ourselves from them and not permit them any control of our lives that is not essential?

Bush was president for 8 years. Not permitting him controll of anything by limiting government is self preservartion, don't you agree?

 

[francoHFW]

I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.

Yes, we do need roads, bridges, highways, jails, schools, aircraft carriers, GPS satellites, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. Saying we don't need subsidies for crummy cars badly built and still with astronomical prices does not mean we don't need highways.

The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst sort of master.

DEAR BARUCH,
You keep telling us that government is incompetent and tends to make big problems worse. Fair enough big guy.

But your side has been saying this every day for 36 years.

Problem is: every time you seize power, you run up the debt like drunken sailors and create terrible messes for future generations.

From Reagan's War on Drugs to Bush's War on Terrorism and Patriot Act, you have proved your thesis that Big Government can't Save the world - yet you never admit of your folly because your news sources only report Liberal failures (in welfare, taxation and regulation). Your job is not to be a mouthpiece for republican bumperstickers but to actually apply your concepts critically and intelligently (otherwise you sound like a repetitive drone).

Consider this Dear Baruch,

The Bush administration's theoretical construction of the War on Terror places more faith in Government competence than anything ever dreamed by FDR or LBJ. Not only did Bush claim that Washington could stop aggression, but he said Washington had the competence to destabilize - THEN - rebuild entire Arab cultures in our image. We were told that once Hussein was removed, the result would be democracy and freedom springing from the rubble.

Even after it became apparent that Bush had created an omnivorous power vacuum and unleashed an ungovernable civil conflict, you kept promising that we were one more surge from glorious freedom, as it became apparent that this region was never going to accept a modern version of American Freedom, and that all we could hope for was perpetual waves of radicalism followed by endless surges . . . ultimately consigning future generations of Americans to an endless and bankrupting game of whack-a-mole.

(Psst: what if government can't do big things? What if it can't rebuild whole foreign nations? What if once entrusted with the power to rebuild whole Arab cultures, our government starts unnecessary wars and fucks up an entire continent for generations? What if you can't see any of this because YOU are the one who trusts big government to do big things, and YOU are the one who should listen to your tired lectures about big government?)

Of course there is a Silver Lining to all the power we gave Bush's Big Government. With the Patriot Act we built the most concentrated, technologically advanced surveillance system of any nation in history. What could go wrong?

(Turn off talk radio and take a long look in the mirror before enlightening the rest of us)

You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

The only thing you seem to have going for you is puckering up to a black President's ass. When you were told growing up that you should be good at something, I doubt that's what was meant by the statement.

Brainwashed functional moron AND a racist. Great job!

 

[francoHFW]

And they're all ignorant dupes of big money greedy idiot billionaires....see sig.

We don't argue with Liberals. We tell you how it is and you choose to be an idiot and not believe us.

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

 

[Conservative65]

We don't argue with Liberals. We tell you how it is and you choose to be an idiot and not believe us.

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

We don't argue with Liberals. We tell you how it is and you choose to be an idiot and not believe us.

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

So sad you call a system centering around redistribution of wealth from an honorable earned to a lowlife freeloader fair.

If Democrats cared as much about people as they claimed they cared, the government wouldn't be involved. You'd find those you say deserve help and simply help them. Since your idea of caring involves involving the government mandating others be forced to do it, you don't care other than with good intentions.

 

[Conservative65]

I see this over and over. Conservatives are for limited government. Just because we say we don't want government doing things where government is inept, counterproductive, wasteful or whatever, does not mean that we should shut it down totally.

Yes, we do need roads, bridges, highways, jails, schools, aircraft carriers, GPS satellites, standard weights and measures, courts, etc etc. Saying we don't need subsidies for crummy cars badly built and still with astronomical prices does not mean we don't need highways.

The conservative view is that the government should be a useful servant of the people's needs. However, you give it too much money, power, authority it becomes the worst sort of master.

DEAR BARUCH,
You keep telling us that government is incompetent and tends to make big problems worse. Fair enough big guy.

But your side has been saying this every day for 36 years.

Problem is: every time you seize power, you run up the debt like drunken sailors and create terrible messes for future generations.

From Reagan's War on Drugs to Bush's War on Terrorism and Patriot Act, you have proved your thesis that Big Government can't Save the world - yet you never admit of your folly because your news sources only report Liberal failures (in welfare, taxation and regulation). Your job is not to be a mouthpiece for republican bumperstickers but to actually apply your concepts critically and intelligently (otherwise you sound like a repetitive drone).

Consider this Dear Baruch,

The Bush administration's theoretical construction of the War on Terror places more faith in Government competence than anything ever dreamed by FDR or LBJ. Not only did Bush claim that Washington could stop aggression, but he said Washington had the competence to destabilize - THEN - rebuild entire Arab cultures in our image. We were told that once Hussein was removed, the result would be democracy and freedom springing from the rubble.

Even after it became apparent that Bush had created an omnivorous power vacuum and unleashed an ungovernable civil conflict, you kept promising that we were one more surge from glorious freedom, as it became apparent that this region was never going to accept a modern version of American Freedom, and that all we could hope for was perpetual waves of radicalism followed by endless surges . . . ultimately consigning future generations of Americans to an endless and bankrupting game of whack-a-mole.

(Psst: what if government can't do big things? What if it can't rebuild whole foreign nations? What if once entrusted with the power to rebuild whole Arab cultures, our government starts unnecessary wars and fucks up an entire continent for generations? What if you can't see any of this because YOU are the one who trusts big government to do big things, and YOU are the one who should listen to your tired lectures about big government?)

Of course there is a Silver Lining to all the power we gave Bush's Big Government. With the Patriot Act we built the most concentrated, technologically advanced surveillance system of any nation in history. What could go wrong?

(Turn off talk radio and take a long look in the mirror before enlightening the rest of us)

You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

The only thing you seem to have going for you is puckering up to a black President's ass. When you were told growing up that you should be good at something, I doubt that's what was meant by the statement.

Brainwashed functional moron AND a racist. Great job!

I'm not the one puckering up to Obama's ass. YOU are.

 

[francoHFW]

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

So sad you call a system centering around redistribution of wealth from an honorable earned to a lowlife freeloader fair.

If Democrats cared as much about people as they claimed they cared, the government wouldn't be involved. You'd find those you say deserve help and simply help them. Since your idea of caring involves involving the government mandating others be forced to do it, you don't care other than with good intentions.

NOTHING has been changed to help the unfortunate for years, dupe (and thanks for the corrupt world depression). What HAS changed is 30 years of Reaganist redistribution to the rich and giant corps, FROM the middle class. DUH. Change the channel and rejoin reality, fool of the greedy a-hole GOP......

 

[Conservative65]

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

That's why I say Democrats are stupid. They know better and still choose to do the same thing.

Socialism is just fair capitalism and the last stop in Churchill's "sunlit uplands". And NOT COMMUNISM.

Talk about stupid lol. You idiots can't believe that Dems actually care about their fellow man and must all be on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Even when YOU are on welfare ay caramba...at least you're in the white party. Quite an idiotic accomplishment, dupe, since the GOP has ruined the nonrich and the country with big gov't and pure pander to the greedy idiot rich.

So sad you call a system centering around redistribution of wealth from an honorable earned to a lowlife freeloader fair.

If Democrats cared as much about people as they claimed they cared, the government wouldn't be involved. You'd find those you say deserve help and simply help them. Since your idea of caring involves involving the government mandating others be forced to do it, you don't care other than with good intentions.

NOTHING has been changed to help the unfortunate for years, dupe (and thanks for the corrupt world depression). What HAS changed is 30 years of Reaganist redistribution to the rich and giant corps, FROM the middle class. DUH. Change the channel and rejoin reality, fool of the greedy a-hole GOP......

Unfortunate? You mean those that made choices in life that produced bad results? That's not being unfortunate. That's getting what you deserve for making bad choices.

The war on poverty has spent $22 trillion over 50 years to help those that, if you Liberals truly cared as much as you say, could have been helped by you taking your right paw and reaching into YOUR pocket. When you start helping those you claim to care for so much and not involve the government in it, I'll believe you care.

The greedy assholes are the freeloaders you support getting someone else's money.

 

[Conservative65]

You parrot bs propaganda and idiotic "common sense" and ignore facts, history, and science- the New BS GOP is a catastrophe and a disgrace. The world is aghast, hater dupe. See sig.

The fact is you're too stupid to do things on your own and have to be led by your hand. You prove that by voting Democrat. You're a disgrace to humanity.

Democrats and people who vote for Democrats seem to fail in recognizing the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a state of being in which one has not been exposed to or made aware of something. Stupidity is a state of being in which one has been exposed to or made aware of something time and time again and they still doesn't get it. Socialism is a failed policy and will continue to be so. Liberals are stupid enough to think "it will work...this time." Democrats get votes from stupid people by promising them things that will be paid for "by others".

You already live with socialism, just a bad version of it. And it's not about utopia, it's about capitalism not being the answer to all things. Some things in life are not about making a buck, believe it or not.

Any version of socialism is bad. Hate to break it to you but it is about making a buck and keeping what you earned, believe it or not.

Dogma, and I very much doubt you have any understanding of economics.

Doubt all you want. I doubt you can prove your claim much like you failed to prove all the other claims you've made.

 

[francoHFW]

DEAR BARUCH,
You keep telling us that government is incompetent and tends to make big problems worse. Fair enough big guy.

But your side has been saying this every day for 36 years.

Problem is: every time you seize power, you run up the debt like drunken sailors and create terrible messes for future generations.

From Reagan's War on Drugs to Bush's War on Terrorism and Patriot Act, you have proved your thesis that Big Government can't Save the world - yet you never admit of your folly because your news sources only report Liberal failures (in welfare, taxation and regulation). Your job is not to be a mouthpiece for republican bumperstickers but to actually apply your concepts critically and intelligently (otherwise you sound like a repetitive drone).

Consider this Dear Baruch,

The Bush administration's theoretical construction of the War on Terror places more faith in Government competence than anything ever dreamed by FDR or LBJ. Not only did Bush claim that Washington could stop aggression, but he said Washington had the competence to destabilize - THEN - rebuild entire Arab cultures in our image. We were told that once Hussein was removed, the result would be democracy and freedom springing from the rubble.

Even after it became apparent that Bush had created an omnivorous power vacuum and unleashed an ungovernable civil conflict, you kept promising that we were one more surge from glorious freedom, as it became apparent that this region was never going to accept a modern version of American Freedom, and that all we could hope for was perpetual waves of radicalism followed by endless surges . . . ultimately consigning future generations of Americans to an endless and bankrupting game of whack-a-mole.

(Psst: what if government can't do big things? What if it can't rebuild whole foreign nations? What if once entrusted with the power to rebuild whole Arab cultures, our government starts unnecessary wars and fucks up an entire continent for generations? What if you can't see any of this because YOU are the one who trusts big government to do big things, and YOU are the one who should listen to your tired lectures about big government?)

Of course there is a Silver Lining to all the power we gave Bush's Big Government. With the Patriot Act we built the most concentrated, technologically advanced surveillance system of any nation in history. What could go wrong?

(Turn off talk radio and take a long look in the mirror before enlightening the rest of us)

You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

The only thing you seem to have going for you is puckering up to a black President's ass. When you were told growing up that you should be good at something, I doubt that's what was meant by the statement.

Brainwashed functional moron AND a racist. Great job!

I'm not the one puckering up to Obama's ass. YOU are.

Vulgar brainwashed functional moron. Fixing the W/GOP disasters takes time. Obama makes W and the GOP look like total a-holes, disasters, and fools they are. Look at facts sometime instead of your brainwashed racist hate...

 

[Conservative65]

You are pointing out areas where the government is incompetent , tyrannical, or counterproductive, IE the war on drugs, Bush's nation building and saying because these area show government being foolish this proves the OP is wrong? How do you make that out?

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

The only thing you seem to have going for you is puckering up to a black President's ass. When you were told growing up that you should be good at something, I doubt that's what was meant by the statement.

Brainwashed functional moron AND a racist. Great job!

I'm not the one puckering up to Obama's ass. YOU are.

Vulgar brainwashed functional moron. Fixing the W/GOP disasters takes time. Obama makes W and the GOP look like total a-holes, disasters, and fools they are. Look at facts sometime instead of your brainwashed racist hate...

Pull your head out from between Obama's legs for a while and see the type liar he is.

By supporting him, you make yourself look like an dumb asshole. Pucker up. It's the one thing you seem to be good at.

 

[francoHFW]

The war on poverty ended when Raygun was elected. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

 

[francoHFW]

Boooshies were incompetent and tyranical in ALL areas lol. 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, the stupidest wars ever, AND a corrupt world depression. Great job! Denial is not an answer, but the only one GOPers seem to have.

The only thing you seem to have going for you is puckering up to a black President's ass. When you were told growing up that you should be good at something, I doubt that's what was meant by the statement.

Brainwashed functional moron AND a racist. Great job!

I'm not the one puckering up to Obama's ass. YOU are.

Vulgar brainwashed functional moron. Fixing the W/GOP disasters takes time. Obama makes W and the GOP look like total a-holes, disasters, and fools they are. Look at facts sometime instead of your brainwashed racist hate...

Pull your head out from between Obama's legs for a while and see the type liar he is.

By supporting him, you make yourself look like an dumb asshole. Pucker up. It's the one thing you seem to be good at.

Such lies as what, brainwashed racist tool? What a sick, vulgar, ignorant, hateful bigot. Change the channel or enjoy hell.