What Liberals REALLY think about us Conservatives

[edthecynic]

On another thread, a member is discussing the President's recent description of those who oppose his policies as 'the enemy'. Earlier today, my opposition to his policies was described as 'obnoxious'.

What do liberals really think about conservatives? Do you conservatives care? Does being described as an 'enemy of the state' or a 'child throwing a temper tantrum' or 'not grasping reality' make you more introspective or inspired to rethink your opinions or attitudes? How about being called names or described in other unflattering terms?

Discuss.

CON$ seem to think it will persuade libs and CON$ are known for their projection.

Epic Monologue: The Greatest Threat America Faces Is Liberalism
April 15, 2008
RUSH: I popped up, and I said, "If I may be so bold, I totally agree with you that we have a major threat and that it's going to be a threat that we have to deal with for quite a while. I don't deny that Islamofascism is huge. I have to tell you guys something--" we had 15 of us sitting around. I said, "I have to tell you guys something. Without question the biggest threat facing this country is liberalism, and I went on a 20-minute riff. I wish it had been recorded. I totally ad-libbed this thing, it was similar to monologues that I do here behind the Golden EIB Microphone, but I went on for 15 minutes.

The next day, they were still buzzing about it, and they said, "Rush, if you'd have told us to turn around we're marching into the ocean, we'd have followed you."
Liberalism has destroyed the black family
Liberalism is the greatest enemy this country faces, because too much of this country is ignorant. It's the most expensive commodity we have, ignorance.
Liberalism is the greatest threat this country faces.

July 7, 2010
RUSH: The left is relentless. The left is who it is. They are who they are, and they are dishonest as they can be. Trying to deal with them the same way you would deal with one of your recalcitrant children is not gonna work. I mean, we're dealing with true, evil, diabolic deviousness here.

 

[MarcATL]

If he calls me his enemy, why should I try and compromise with him?

Lookit...another disingenuous RW SOB.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

 

[edthecynic]

If he calls me his enemy, why should I try and compromise with him?

February 6, 2008
RUSH: Mr. McCain, Ronaldus Magnus did reach out to Democrats -- to defeat them!

RUSH: They are the enemy! They are to be defeated.

 

[edthecynic]

I couldn't find Bones' post but at least she is on the topic. She, a liberal, thinks conservatives want to do away with anyone who does not toe the 'party line' their party line.

So do the rest of you liberals concur? Do you think conservatives want to get rid of anybody who isn't a conservative? What do you think? We'll hang them? Poison them? Shoot them?

I think Libs should take seriously the most listened to and popular spokesperson for the CON$ervative movement.

February 6, 2008
RUSH: Why is it so hard to understand that what we want is to defeat those people?

We view those people as threats to the American way of life, as we've always known it. We view liberals as a threat to the founding of this country. We view them as a threat to the future. We view them as a threat to the traditions and institutions that have defined this country's greatness. We view them as people who need to be defeated, not worked with.

February 11, 2008
RUSH: See, I think liberalism needs to be beaten back; I think it needs to be defeated; I think politically it is the enemy; ... It has to be beaten, not joined, not be reached out to, not be gotten along with, not worked with. It needs to be beaten

 

[edthecynic]

I couldn't find Bones' post but at least she is on the topic. She, a liberal, thinks conservatives want to do away with anyone who does not toe the 'party line' their party line.

So do the rest of you liberals concur? Do you think conservatives want to get rid of anybody who isn't a conservative? What do you think? We'll hang them? Poison them? Shoot them?

We’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting Democrats with dogs.
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Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)
Mother Jones, 8/1995​

I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus - living fossils - so we will never forget what these people stood for.
​

Rush Limbaugh
Denver Post, 12/29/1995​

Environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the Democrat Party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not Americans, never have been Americans, never will be Americans.
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Rep. Don Young (R-AK)
Alaska Public Radio, 8/19/1996​

Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.
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Rep. James Hansen (R-UT)
11/1/1998​

Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - I’m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin’s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an ‘enemy of the people.’ The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, ‘clan liability.’ In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished ‘to the ninth degree’: that is, everyone in the offender’s own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed.
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John Derbyshire
National Review, 2/15/2001​

 

[sangha]

if he calls me his enemy, why should i try and compromise with him?

february 6, 2008
rush: Mr. Mccain, ronaldus magnus did reach out to democrats -- to defeat them!

Rush: They are the enemy! They are to be defeated.

oh snap!!!

 

[sangha]

i couldn't find bones' post but at least she is on the topic. She, a liberal, thinks conservatives want to do away with anyone who does not toe the 'party line' their party line.

So do the rest of you liberals concur? do you think conservatives want to get rid of anybody who isn't a conservative? what do you think? We'll hang them? Poison them? Shoot them?

we’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting democrats with dogs.
​

senator phil gramm (r-tx)
mother jones, 8/1995​

i tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus - living fossils - so we will never forget what these people stood for.
​

rush limbaugh
denver post, 12/29/1995​

environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the democrat party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not americans, never have been americans, never will be americans.
​

rep. Don young (r-ak)
alaska public radio, 8/19/1996​

get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.
​

rep. James hansen (r-ut)
11/1/1998​

chelsea is a clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - i’m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In stalin’s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an ‘enemy of the people.’ the nazis used the same principle, which they called sippenhaft, ‘clan liability.’ in imperial china, enemies of the state were punished ‘to the ninth degree’: That is, everyone in the offender’s own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed.
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john derbyshire
national review, 2/15/2001​

what happened to the "it's wrong to call americans the "enemy' crowd?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama and his ilk are the enemy.

 

[edthecynic]

i couldn't find bones' post but at least she is on the topic. She, a liberal, thinks conservatives want to do away with anyone who does not toe the 'party line' their party line.

So do the rest of you liberals concur? do you think conservatives want to get rid of anybody who isn't a conservative? what do you think? We'll hang them? Poison them? Shoot them?

we’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting democrats with dogs.
​

senator phil gramm (r-tx)
mother jones, 8/1995​

i tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus - living fossils - so we will never forget what these people stood for.
​

rush limbaugh
denver post, 12/29/1995​

environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the democrat party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not americans, never have been americans, never will be americans.
​

rep. Don young (r-ak)
alaska public radio, 8/19/1996​

get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.
​

rep. James hansen (r-ut)
11/1/1998​

chelsea is a clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - i’m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In stalin’s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an ‘enemy of the people.’ the nazis used the same principle, which they called sippenhaft, ‘clan liability.’ in imperial china, enemies of the state were punished ‘to the ninth degree’: That is, everyone in the offender’s own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed.
​

john derbyshire
national review, 2/15/2001​

what happened to the "it's wrong to call americans the "enemy' crowd?

It looks like they crawled under a rock in shame.

 

[sangha]

we’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting democrats with dogs.
​

senator phil gramm (r-tx)
mother jones, 8/1995​

i tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus - living fossils - so we will never forget what these people stood for.
​

rush limbaugh
denver post, 12/29/1995​

environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the democrat party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not americans, never have been americans, never will be americans.
​

rep. Don young (r-ak)
alaska public radio, 8/19/1996​

get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.
​

rep. James hansen (r-ut)
11/1/1998​

chelsea is a clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - i’m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In stalin’s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an ‘enemy of the people.’ the nazis used the same principle, which they called sippenhaft, ‘clan liability.’ in imperial china, enemies of the state were punished ‘to the ninth degree’: That is, everyone in the offender’s own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed.
​

john derbyshire
national review, 2/15/2001​

what happened to the "it's wrong to call americans the "enemy' crowd?

It looks like they crawled under a rock in shame.

Gee, and she seemed SO CONCERNED that someone was calling Americans the "enemy". I almost beleived her for a nano-second

 

[Foxfyre]

Naw. Most conservatives don't feed trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in exercises in futility. And most know the difference between humor and seriousness and don't try to pass one off as the other. (And they know what 'in context' means.)

 

[Father Time]

oh god not another "these guys think you're stupid, dont you hate them" threads. how about asking an actual liberal instead of putting words in their mouth. Just a thought yanno...

But not just one liberal try asking a bunch of them.

Also it's probably been pointed out but there are cons who aren't exactly above calling all liberals unpatriotic, evil or stupid. Just look at PC for instance.

 

[Father Time]

If only PI was here, he'd provide the perfect counter-argument to 'liberals think you're stupid and cons don't do the same thing'

 

[sangha]

Naw. Most conservatives don't feed trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in exercises in futility. And most know the difference between humor and seriousness and don't try to pass one off as the other. (And they know what 'in context' means.)

Translation - "I got pwned by all the posts documenting the many times conservatives have called americans 'the enemy' so I'll pretend that quotes from elected republicans like Gramm, Cheney, Gingrich etc are just "humor" so I can continue pretending that I care about this"

 

[edthecynic]

Naw. Most conservatives don't feed trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in exercises in futility. And most know the difference between humor and seriousness and don't try to pass one off as the other. (And they know what 'in context' means.)

You are easily the most POMPUS condescending hypocrite of all the CON$. (CON$ habitually whine "out of context" but are never able to show or say what the correct context is.)

 

[sangha]

Naw. Most conservatives don't feed trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in exercises in futility. And most know the difference between humor and seriousness and don't try to pass one off as the other. (And they know what 'in context' means.)

You are easily the most POMPUS condescending hypocrite of all the CON$. (CON$ habitually whine "out of context" but are never able to show or say what the correct context is.)

She claims that Phil Gramm was a comedian. Granted, he was a joke, but he was no comedian

 

[Foxfyre]

Most Conservatives know Phil Gramm's style and he is one of the best to use humor and exaggeration for effect to make a point.

And again, Conservatives usually have a lot of respect for context.

Conservatives also know the difference between candidate campaign rhetoric and pronouncements by the President of the United States who is supposed to be President to everybody. Had George Bush used that 'enemies' line, he would still be crucified for it.

And this latest Presidential gaffe has been interesting. As fast as Youtube clips have gone up, they have been pulled. And as fast as news stories have been posted, they have also been removed and replaced with a revised version that doesn't include this:

In a little more than five hours in the state, Obama was booked for a factory tour and for a pair of fundraisers that party officials said would bring in $500,000.

He said Republicans had driven the economy into a ditch and then stood by and criticized while Democrats pulled it out. Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
Obama assails GOP on clouded final campaign push - Yahoo! News

(Whoever is pulling the strings must have missed this one so far.)

So, I hope Immie, who means well when he thinks we should all go along to get along as much as possible, is tuned in here.

 

[sangha]

Most Conservatives know Phil Gramm's style and he is one of the best to use humor and exaggeration for effect to make a point.

I'm afraid to ask, but maybe you could share some examples of Phil Gramm's comedy? Since he is "one of the best" I'm sure you have a long list of Funny Things Phil Gramm has said

Conservatives also know the difference between candidate campaign rhetoric and pronouncements by the President of the United States who is supposed to be President to everybody. Had George Bush used that 'enemies' line, he would still be crucified for it.

Both bush and cheney used the enemies line. Wingnuts cheered

And you are still incapable of posting a quote from Obama where he called anyone an "enemy". That's because you're lying again

 

[Lonestar_logic]

On another thread, a member is discussing the President's recent description of those who oppose his policies as 'the enemy'. Earlier today, my opposition to his policies was described as 'obnoxious'.

What do liberals really think about conservatives? Do you conservatives care? Does being described as an 'enemy of the state' or a 'child throwing a temper tantrum' or 'not grasping reality' make you more introspective or inspired to rethink your opinions or attitudes? How about being called names or described in other unflattering terms?

Discuss.

The problem, my friends, is US!

Let’s start with the brilliant analysis of Eugene Robinson, the Pulitzer Prize winner who writes a column for the Washington Post. In a piece that runs under the charming headline "The Spoiled-Brat American Electorate”, Robinson writes that, “According to polls, Americans are in a mood to hold their breath until they turn blue. Voters appear to be so fed up with the Democrats that they’re ready to toss them out in favor of the Republicans — for whom, according to those same polls, the nation has even greater contempt. This isn’t an ‘electoral wave,’ it’s a temper tantrum.”

Who knew that Eugene Robinson wasn’t merely a brilliant journalist, but a brilliant psychoanalyst too. The voters are reverting to their childhood. They are scared and in desperate need of a security blanket, which they have sadly found in the Republican Party. “In the punditry business,” Mr. Robinson writes, “it’s considered bad form to question the essential wisdom of the American people. But at this point, it’s impossible to ignore the obvious: The American people are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats.”

Funny how those very same American people weren’t spoiled brats at all when they voted for Eugene Robison’s candidate in the 2008 presidential election. As long as the voters were slobbering over Barrack Obama, everything was just fine. But once the swooning ended, once the voters came back down to Earth, well, that’s when they morphed into spoiled brats throwing a tantrum.

Eugene Robinson didn’t come up with this idea all by himself. Peter Jennings made precisely the same point in 1994 after the Republicans won control of both Houses of Congress for the first time since the 1950s. “Some thoughts on those angry voters,” Jennings said in a radio commentary. “Ask parents of any two-year-old and they can tell you about those temper tantrums: the stomping feet, the rolling eyes, the screaming. It’s clear that the anger controls the child and not the other way around. It’s the job of the parent to teach the child to control the anger and channel it in a positive way. Imagine a nation full of uncontrolled two-year-old rage. The voters had a temper tantrum last week. …Parenting and governing don’t have to be dirty words: the nation can’t be run by an angry two-year-old.”Ah, but Eugene Robinson and Peter Jennings are hardly alone. There are other brilliant pundits who have been examining the sad little mind of the American voter. In the New York Times, Maureen Dowd came to realize that what was ailing America was … Americans. Obama, in this view, was the wise grownup stuck with the unenviable task of governing a nation filled with fearful, mental defects. “The dispute over the Islamic center has tripped some deep national lunacy,” she wrote. “Obama is the head of the dysfunctional family of America, a rational man running a most irrational nation, a high-minded man in a low-minded age. The country is having some weird mass nervous breakdown.”

And in Newsweek, another liberal, columnist Jonathan Alter, concluded that the American people simply do not know what’s good for them. They “aren’t rationally aligning belief and action; they’re tempted to lose their spleens in the polling place without fully grasping the consequences,” he wrote.

Still another liberal elite, Jacob Weisberg of Slate, the on-line magazine, wrote that “The biggest culprit in our current predicament,” he wrote, is the “childishness, ignorance, and growing incoherence of the public at large.” He is referring to the tendency of some voters to want it both ways: give us more stuff but cut our taxes; we want government to fix our problems at the same time we want government to shrink. Let’s be fair: there is something to his argument.

Still, the view is taking over among the liberal media elite that the voters – yes, that means you! — are acting out. And yes, the voters – you again! — are throwing a tantrum. You are children — and not too smart children at that. Of course, there’s a pretty good chance that you would get well in the proverbial New York minute if only you went back into your trance and fell in love with Obama and the Democrats all over again. And did you notice? The pundits didn’t write columns about voter temper tantrums and the like when they sent the Republicans packing in 2006 and 2008. I guess they’re only tantrums worth writing about when the voters turn on their fellow liberal Democrats.

More here:
It?s Not Only the Economy, Stupid | BernardGoldberg.com

Everyone knows liberals don't think.

 

[edthecynic]

Had George Bush used that 'enemies' line, he would still be crucified for it.

Obviously you are pretending to have missed this below which was posted earlier:

Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists

Military, Homeland Security, Bush White House strategy sharpen knives against anyone critical of the "war on terror"

Recent scientific polls that show around 84% don't believe the government's explanation behind 9/11 and others confirming the fact that support for the war in Iraq is at an all time low have led the Bush administration to sharpen their knives against the new breed of perceived "enemy propagandists," bloggers, journalists and online activists who dissent against the "war on terror."

The White House has made it perfectly clear that it will target American citizens for propagating information harmful to the interests of the U.S. government and classify them as enemy combatants. This is codified in sub-section 27 of section 950v. of the Military Commissions Act of 2006.​

Bush's own strategy document for "winning the war on terror" identifies "conspiracy theorists," meaning anyone who exposes government corruption and lies about major domestic and world events, as "terrorists recruiters," and vows to eliminate their influence in society.​

In a speech given Monday, Homeland Security director Michael Chertoff identified the web as a "terror training camp," through which "disaffected people living in the United States" are developing "radical ideologies and potentially violent skills."​

Chertoff has pledged to dispatch Homeland Security agents to local police departments in order to aid in the apprehension of domestic terrorists who use the Internet as a political tool.



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The Bush administration's media mouthpieces have also been mobilized to stereotype any kind of critical thinking as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy," a recent case in point beingFox News' Bill O'Reilly calling for the FBI to investigate the 9/11 Scholars organization for possible ties to terrorist organizations.