What Leftism Does to People

In your opinion, which statement most closely reflects the truth?

  • Leftism is America’s best hope.

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • Unchecked Leftism will destroy the America we know.

    Votes: 66 72.5%
  • Neither and I will explain in my post

    Votes: 7 7.7%
  • I am a troll and/or numbnut who has nothing constructive to add to the discussion.

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Total voters
    91
The "red herring" continues

Yes, your red herring.

The issue is Wall Street's destruction of the world economy.

Security problems at OWS are serious issue as well.

WHERE ARE THE COPS?

Protecting the citizens of the communities from the law-breaking "fraction" of the OWS: the ones that are defacing public property, vandalizing private property, harrassing businesses that don't "donate" to the "cause", cleaning up human waste, stopping public sex acts, keeping the ones that are invading and occupying and spreading disease and parasites into any business/gov't building near their "target". After a while, it is hard to tell the "fringe" from the the whole, because the "whole" does not reject the "fringe".

Yes, and THAT is the issue. The issue is not the reason they are doing it. The fact that they are doing it illustrates the kind of people they are. And, if you concur with Klavan, and it seems that a large percentage of USMBers do concur with him as indicated by the poll, it is leftism that makes them that way.

Or if you reject that thesis, then the only logical conclusion is that they are leftists because they are that way. To me, that would be way worse.

And we are NOT seeing the same phenomenon manifested among fiscal conservatives even though they also protest, demonstrate, and rally because they also have strong greviances.
 
Thomas Sowell provided a mini essay this week that really dovetails in with themes in this thread. Here he compares the imaginary world of Alice in Wonderland with the world as the statist/leftist/modern American liberal seems to see it:

Excerpted

. . . ."Alice in Wonderland" was written by a professor who also wrote a book on symbolic logic. So it is not surprising that Alice encountered not only strange behavior in Wonderland, but also strange and illogical reasoning -- of a sort too often found in the real world, and which a logician would be very much aware of.

If Alice could visit the world of liberal rhetoric and assumptions today, she might find similarly illogical and bizarre thinking. But people suffering in the current economy might not find it nearly as entertaining as "Alice in Wonderland."

Perhaps the most remarkable feature of the world envisioned by today's liberals is that it is a world where other people just passively accept whatever "change" liberals impose. In the world of Liberal Land, you can just take for granted all the benefits of the existing society, and then simply tack on your new, wonderful ideas that will make things better.

For example, if the economy is going along well and you happen to take a notion that there ought to be more home ownership, especially among the poor and minorities, then you simply have the government decree that lenders have to lend to more low-income people and minorities who want mortgages, ending finicky mortgage standards about down payments, income and credit histories.

That sounds like a fine idea in the world of Liberal Land. Unfortunately, in the ugly world of reality, it turned out to be a financial disaster, from which the economy has still not yet recovered. Nor have the poor and minorities.

Apparently you cannot just tack on your pet notions to whatever already exists, without repercussions spreading throughout the whole economy. That's what happens in the ugly world of reality, as distinguished from the beautiful world of Liberal Land. . . .


. . . .The history of the 20th century is a painful lesson on what happens when collective choices replace individual choices. Even leaving aside the chilling history of totalitarianism in the 20th century, the history of economic central planning shows it to have been such a widely recognized disaster that even communist and socialist governments were abandoning it as the century ended. . . .

. . . .The world of reality has its problems, so it is understandable that some people want to escape to a different world, where you can talk lofty talk and forget about ugly realities like costs and repercussions. The world of reality is not nearly as lovely as the world of Liberal Land. No wonder so many people want to go there.
Alice in Liberal Land - HUMAN EVENTS
 
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