What it could actually mean if Manafort flips on Trump.

[bodecea]

The biggest "if".

If Manafort flipped on Trump and he knew Trump knew about the Don Jr., Russian meeting conspiracy, that would make two unrelated people who corroborated that Trump knew about the meeting, Cohen and Manafort.

In fact, if Trump Jr. put dad on speakerphone, then that's a huge problem. We know Trump uses a blocked phone. We know Trump Jr. called someone using a blocked phone multiple times. If Mueller was able to get a hold of those phone records and the times matched up, along with twin testimonies, they would have real concrete, indisputable evidence.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children. Hell, Republicans say fuk you to American children, no way any Republican would want to help Russian children.

And, if Trump knew that Manafort was changing the the GOP party platform to be more favorable to Russia, which Manafort did, on orders from Moscow, that would be conspiracy and point to multiple members of the Trump campaign being complicit and traitors.


Now we know that Republicans aren't traitors and want to get to the truth. OK, just kidding.
That was pure sarcasm.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children



Yet you want us to believe the tarmac meeting between bill Clinton and Lynch was about trading cake recipes ?



.

Look! Over there! >>>>> B. Clinton!

 

[deanrd]

Trump Admits To Collusion—Says Son Had Meeting With Russians “To Get Information On An Opponent” Trump just admitted why Trump Jr. met with Russians.

You need to catch up with your fellow liberal loons.

The word collusion has been replaced with meddling. ....

No, the synonym for collusion is conspiracy. And under the circumstances, that's a felony.

 

[Maxdeath]

Jeesh beenierd do you ever get tired of posting crazy conspiracy theories?

 

[OldLady]

For some reason he assumes everyone has dementia like him.



.

This whole thing baffles me, Bear. For some reason liberals think that someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime! I would be willing to bet a small fortune that few political campaigns for President in this country have not had meetings with people who had "dirt" on their opponent! Campaigns want to reveal the "warts" of the opponent as they do their best to hide the "warts" of their own candidate! It's how the game is played and has been since people started running for office.

That's absurd on it's face but what turns it into farce is that the Clinton campaign PAID a foreign agent big money to put out a series of phony dossiers to smear her political opponent right before the election...hiding her own involvement behind a law firm "cut out" so that the public wouldn't know that it was a political hatchet job of the sleaziest kind!

Then if that wasn't bad enough...the Obama Administration took what they KNEW were highly suspect dossiers paid for by Hillary Clinton...and walked into a FISA court and used those dossiers as "proof" that something illegal was going on between the Trump campaign and Russia so they could obtain not one...not two...but three warrants to spy on people affiliated with the Trump campaign in the midst of a political race!

People should go to jail for THAT...it's so sleazy it boggles the mind.

someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime!
Yes, when the "someone" claiming to have dirt on their opponent is an adversarial foreign government, it is indeed a crime.
Why is everyone continuing to forget that part?

You described the Steele Dossier

We've been through this over and over again and you are totally aware that's bullshit. The Steele Dossier was oppo research never completely finished that was legally obtained by a legitimate company.
Of course, Trump has a good reason to convince you otherwise, but that is the truth and somewhere under all that denial, you know it.

Your chronic misunderstanding is not clarifying

We'll see what the courts make of that "misunderstanding."

 

[Sunni Man]

No, the synonym for collusion is conspiracy. And under the circumstances, that's a felony.

Conspiracy to do what?? .....

 

[deanrd]

No, the synonym for collusion is conspiracy. And under the circumstances, that's a felony.

Conspiracy to do what?? .....

Guess we'll find out won't we?

In the meantime, Daddy Dearest just threw his favorite son under the bus.

Do USMB Republicans understand Trump just threw his own son under the Bus?

We can see the tire tracks from here.

 

[Sunni Man]

Guess we'll find out won't we?

So your alleged conspiracy is based on, "I don't know"? .... ...

 

[Wyatt earp]

The biggest "if".

If Manafort flipped on Trump and he knew Trump knew about the Don Jr., Russian meeting conspiracy, that would make two unrelated people who corroborated that Trump knew about the meeting, Cohen and Manafort.

In fact, if Trump Jr. put dad on speakerphone, then that's a huge problem. We know Trump uses a blocked phone. We know Trump Jr. called someone using a blocked phone multiple times. If Mueller was able to get a hold of those phone records and the times matched up, along with twin testimonies, they would have real concrete, indisputable evidence.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children. Hell, Republicans say fuk you to American children, no way any Republican would want to help Russian children.

And, if Trump knew that Manafort was changing the the GOP party platform to be more favorable to Russia, which Manafort did, on orders from Moscow, that would be conspiracy and point to multiple members of the Trump campaign being complicit and traitors.


Now we know that Republicans aren't traitors and want to get to the truth. OK, just kidding.
That was pure sarcasm.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children



Yet you want us to believe the tarmac meeting between bill Clinton and Lynch was about trading cake recipes ?



.

Amazingly enough...R-Derp is that naive!

For some reason he assumes everyone has dementia like him.



.

This whole thing baffles me, Bear. For some reason liberals think that someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime! I would be willing to bet a small fortune that few political campaigns for President in this country have not had meetings with people who had "dirt" on their opponent! Campaigns want to reveal the "warts" of the opponent as they do their best to hide the "warts" of their own candidate! It's how the game is played and has been since people started running for office.

That's absurd on it's face but what turns it into farce is that the Clinton campaign PAID a foreign agent big money to put out a series of phony dossiers to smear her political opponent right before the election...hiding her own involvement behind a law firm "cut out" so that the public wouldn't know that it was a political hatchet job of the sleaziest kind!

Then if that wasn't bad enough...the Obama Administration took what they KNEW were highly suspect dossiers paid for by Hillary Clinton...and walked into a FISA court and used those dossiers as "proof" that something illegal was going on between the Trump campaign and Russia so they could obtain not one...not two...but three warrants to spy on people affiliated with the Trump campaign in the midst of a political race!

People should go to jail for THAT...it's so sleazy it boggles the mind.

someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime!
Yes, when the "someone" claiming to have dirt on their opponent is an adversarial foreign government, it is indeed a crime.
Why is everyone continuing to forget that part?

Huh? News to me, link..



And why the fuck is that a crime? So it's a crime to tell us if Joe smoe political canidiate killed someone ??? Is a secrete communist ?


That's absurd

.

 

[boedicca]

The OP is full of nonsense.

Trump doesn't own an Ostrich coat.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The biggest "if".

If Manafort flipped on Trump and he knew Trump knew about the Don Jr., Russian meeting conspiracy, that would make two unrelated people who corroborated that Trump knew about the meeting, Cohen and Manafort.

In fact, if Trump Jr. put dad on speakerphone, then that's a huge problem. We know Trump uses a blocked phone. We know Trump Jr. called someone using a blocked phone multiple times. If Mueller was able to get a hold of those phone records and the times matched up, along with twin testimonies, they would have real concrete, indisputable evidence.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children. Hell, Republicans say fuk you to American children, no way any Republican would want to help Russian children.

And, if Trump knew that Manafort was changing the the GOP party platform to be more favorable to Russia, which Manafort did, on orders from Moscow, that would be conspiracy and point to multiple members of the Trump campaign being complicit and traitors.


Now we know that Republicans aren't traitors and want to get to the truth. OK, just kidding.
That was pure sarcasm.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children



Yet you want us to believe the tarmac meeting between bill Clinton and Lynch was about trading cake recipes ?



.

Look! Over there! >>>>> B. Clinton!

^^^

Look one of the three monkeys , until the opposition does the same..



.

 

[Oldstyle]

The biggest "if".

If Manafort flipped on Trump and he knew Trump knew about the Don Jr., Russian meeting conspiracy, that would make two unrelated people who corroborated that Trump knew about the meeting, Cohen and Manafort.

In fact, if Trump Jr. put dad on speakerphone, then that's a huge problem. We know Trump uses a blocked phone. We know Trump Jr. called someone using a blocked phone multiple times. If Mueller was able to get a hold of those phone records and the times matched up, along with twin testimonies, they would have real concrete, indisputable evidence.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children. Hell, Republicans say fuk you to American children, no way any Republican would want to help Russian children.

And, if Trump knew that Manafort was changing the the GOP party platform to be more favorable to Russia, which Manafort did, on orders from Moscow, that would be conspiracy and point to multiple members of the Trump campaign being complicit and traitors.


Now we know that Republicans aren't traitors and want to get to the truth. OK, just kidding.
That was pure sarcasm.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children



Yet you want us to believe the tarmac meeting between bill Clinton and Lynch was about trading cake recipes ?



.

Amazingly enough...R-Derp is that naive!

For some reason he assumes everyone has dementia like him.



.

This whole thing baffles me, Bear. For some reason liberals think that someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime! I would be willing to bet a small fortune that few political campaigns for President in this country have not had meetings with people who had "dirt" on their opponent! Campaigns want to reveal the "warts" of the opponent as they do their best to hide the "warts" of their own candidate! It's how the game is played and has been since people started running for office.

That's absurd on it's face but what turns it into farce is that the Clinton campaign PAID a foreign agent big money to put out a series of phony dossiers to smear her political opponent right before the election...hiding her own involvement behind a law firm "cut out" so that the public wouldn't know that it was a political hatchet job of the sleaziest kind!

Then if that wasn't bad enough...the Obama Administration took what they KNEW were highly suspect dossiers paid for by Hillary Clinton...and walked into a FISA court and used those dossiers as "proof" that something illegal was going on between the Trump campaign and Russia so they could obtain not one...not two...but three warrants to spy on people affiliated with the Trump campaign in the midst of a political race!

People should go to jail for THAT...it's so sleazy it boggles the mind.

someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime!
Yes, when the "someone" claiming to have dirt on their opponent is an adversarial foreign government, it is indeed a crime.
Why is everyone continuing to forget that part?

That Russian attorney was the Russian GOVERNMENT? Who knew! Here I thought she was a private Russian citizen! Since when does a private citizen represent a nation? When you need to paint her that way to flesh out a "collusion" charge that's going nowhere?

 

[Oldstyle]

Amazingly enough...R-Derp is that naive!

For some reason he assumes everyone has dementia like him.



.

This whole thing baffles me, Bear. For some reason liberals think that someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime! I would be willing to bet a small fortune that few political campaigns for President in this country have not had meetings with people who had "dirt" on their opponent! Campaigns want to reveal the "warts" of the opponent as they do their best to hide the "warts" of their own candidate! It's how the game is played and has been since people started running for office.

That's absurd on it's face but what turns it into farce is that the Clinton campaign PAID a foreign agent big money to put out a series of phony dossiers to smear her political opponent right before the election...hiding her own involvement behind a law firm "cut out" so that the public wouldn't know that it was a political hatchet job of the sleaziest kind!

Then if that wasn't bad enough...the Obama Administration took what they KNEW were highly suspect dossiers paid for by Hillary Clinton...and walked into a FISA court and used those dossiers as "proof" that something illegal was going on between the Trump campaign and Russia so they could obtain not one...not two...but three warrants to spy on people affiliated with the Trump campaign in the midst of a political race!

People should go to jail for THAT...it's so sleazy it boggles the mind.

someone taking a meeting with someone who claimed to have "dirt" on their opponent is a crime!
Yes, when the "someone" claiming to have dirt on their opponent is an adversarial foreign government, it is indeed a crime.
Why is everyone continuing to forget that part?

You described the Steele Dossier

We've been through this over and over again and you are totally aware that's bullshit. The Steele Dossier was oppo research never completely finished that was legally obtained by a legitimate company.
Of course, Trump has a good reason to convince you otherwise, but that is the truth and somewhere under all that denial, you know it.

So your definition of a sleazy attempt to smear a political opponent with unsubstantiated rumors dressed up as "dossiers" is "opposition research"? Funny how the Clinton campaign went to great lengths to hide that they were the ones paying for that "opposition research", Old Lady! Why on earth would they need to do THAT if it was all as innocuous as you claim?

Let's be honest about this for a change. The Clinton campaign paid a lot of money to hit Trump with an eleventh hour "scandal" that they hoped would guarantee her the election. It isn't illegal but it sure was sleazy.

As was the Obama Justice Department using those dossiers to get warrants from a FISA court judge when they KNEW they were highly questionable and failed to inform the judge of how those dossiers were paid for. The people behind that sleazy move should never work in the Justice system again.

 

[deanrd]

Guess we'll find out won't we?

So your alleged conspiracy is based on, "I don't know"? .... ...

Gee, I don't know. Maybe Trump asking the Russians for help?

For starters.

 

[Sunni Man]

Gee, I don't know. Maybe Trump asking the Russians for help?

"Maybe"....... Thanks for making my point. ...

 

[Marion Morrison]

The biggest "if".

If Manafort flipped on Trump and he knew Trump knew about the Don Jr., Russian meeting conspiracy, that would make two unrelated people who corroborated that Trump knew about the meeting, Cohen and Manafort.

In fact, if Trump Jr. put dad on speakerphone, then that's a huge problem. We know Trump uses a blocked phone. We know Trump Jr. called someone using a blocked phone multiple times. If Mueller was able to get a hold of those phone records and the times matched up, along with twin testimonies, they would have real concrete, indisputable evidence.

No one believes Trump Jr. wanted a meeting to help Russian Children. Hell, Republicans say fuk you to American children, no way any Republican would want to help Russian children.

And, if Trump knew that Manafort was changing the the GOP party platform to be more favorable to Russia, which Manafort did, on orders from Moscow, that would be conspiracy and point to multiple members of the Trump campaign being complicit and traitors.


Now we know that Republicans aren't traitors and want to get to the truth. OK, just kidding.
That was pure sarcasm.

It's not happening.

 

[Marion Morrison]

rDerp has a better chance of seeing a rainbow-farting unicorn.

 

[deanrd]

Gee, I don't know. Maybe Trump asking the Russians for help?

"Maybe"....... Thanks for making my point. ...

Notable Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska Gets First Shout Out At Manafort Trial

The $10 million payment from Deripaska to Manafort was previously referenced as a loan to Manafort in a 2017 search warrant that was unsealed earlier this year. The document said that Manafort and his wife claimed on a 2010 tax form that they owed $10 million to Deripaska.

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Connection? Yes, connection.

Manafort was broke when he offered to work for Trump FOR FUKING FREE.

Then Manafort was PAID $10,000,000.00 by the Russians.

Russia investigators probe 2016 GOP platform fight

U.S. investigators are focusing on an enduring mystery of the 2016 election: whether Trump campaign officials made the Republican Party platform more friendly to Russia as part of some broader effort to collude with the Kremlin,

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We now know the GOP platform was changed in support of Russia.

Your kind: OMG, I can't see, I don't see, I can't see. There is just too much fuking evidence in front of my face. All that evidence makes it difficult to see.

Well MF, Take a step back. You'll see.

 

[Sunni Man]

Deanie boy is ate up with gay fetish crush for Trump. ... ..

 

[deanrd]

Deanie boy is ate up with gay fetish crush for Trump. ... ..

 

[SavannahMann]

What would it mean? It means you would die from the orgasm that resulted. I’m talking terminal climax.