What is Zionism?

[JoeB131]

It wasn't "their" country, k*nt. Maybe they should have taken it up with the Ottomans who lost "their" country by waging war against the west, k*nt.

I think you are a little confused.

The West got the Arabs to revolt against the Ottomans on the promise that they would get independence. Then the British, who are pretty much the masters of fucking up everything, decided, "Hey, do you know what would look good here? A Bunch of Jews we are throwing out of Europe!"

 

[Roudy]

It wasn't "their" country, k*nt. Maybe they should have taken it up with the Ottomans who lost "their" country by waging war against the west, k*nt.

I think you are a little confused.

The West got the Arabs to revolt against the Ottomans on the promise that they would get independence. Then the British, who are pretty much the masters of fucking up everything, decided, "Hey, do you know what would look good here? A Bunch of Jews we are throwing out of Europe!"

The Jews have been wanting to "go back" for over two thousand years.

 

[Sixties Fan]

It wasn't "their" country, k*nt. Maybe they should have taken it up with the Ottomans who lost "their" country by waging war against the west, k*nt.

I think you are a little confused.

The West got the Arabs to revolt against the Ottomans on the promise that they would get independence. Then the British, who are pretty much the masters of fucking up everything, decided, "Hey, do you know what would look good here? A Bunch of Jews we are throwing out of Europe!"

The jews have been wanting to "go back" for over two thousand years.

To clarify, the Jews have wanted to be sovereign over their ancient homeland since the Romans conquered it.

Jews were always present on the land, and Jews always returned to their homeland no matter which invader had taken over from the Romans, until 1948 when that dream of recreating sovereignty over their own homeland came true.

 

[JoeB131]

The Jews have been wanting to "go back" for over two thousand years.

Yeah, but few of them actually tried until Hitler started turning them into lampshades.

 

[JoeB131]

To clarify, the Jews have wanted to be sovereign over their ancient homeland since the Romans conquered it.

Jews were always present on the land, and Jews always returned to their homeland no matter which invader had taken over from the Romans, until 1948 when that dream of recreating sovereignty over their own homeland came true.

That's nice and all, but batshit bronze age mythology isn't a good source for policy.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Jews have been wanting to "go back" for over two thousand years.

Yeah, but few of them actually tried until Hitler started turning them into lampshades.

Were you there to count them, one by one?

 

[Sixties Fan]

To clarify, the Jews have wanted to be sovereign over their ancient homeland since the Romans conquered it.

Jews were always present on the land, and Jews always returned to their homeland no matter which invader had taken over from the Romans, until 1948 when that dream of recreating sovereignty over their own homeland came true.

That's nice and all, but batshit bronze age mythology isn't a good source for policy.

Go say that to each and every one of the indigenous people all over the world and see the answer you get.
You will not like it.

It goes like this.

It is our land. You are the invader. And like the Jewish People, we have the right to the ancient homeland of our people, as they have the right to the ancient homeland of their people.

 

[JoeB131]

Were you there to count them, one by one?

Um, no, one only needs to look at the immigration figures to Palestine.

The British opened Palestine to Colonization (let's call it what it was) and no one was too keen on taking the bait, until 1936 and after.

Go say that to each and every one of the indigenous people all over the world and see the answer you get.
You will not like it.

It goes like this.

It is our land. You are the invader. And like the Jewish People, we have the right to the ancient homeland of our people, as they have the right to the ancient homeland of their people.

Except it's the Palestinian's land, not some Europeans who happen to have a corrupted version of the Religion practiced their 2000 years ago.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Were you there to count them, one by one?

Um, no, one only needs to look at the immigration figures to Palestine.

The British opened Palestine to Colonization (let's call it what it was) and no one was too keen on taking the bait, until 1936 and after.

Go say that to each and every one of the indigenous people all over the world and see the answer you get.
You will not like it.

It goes like this.

It is our land. You are the invader. And like the Jewish People, we have the right to the ancient homeland of our people, as they have the right to the ancient homeland of their people.

Except it's the Palestinian's land, not some Europeans who happen to have a corrupted version of the Religion practiced their 2000 years ago.

You are a poor student of history, and a worse student of religion.

 

[Shusha]

That's nice and all, but batshit bronze age mythology isn't a good source for policy.

What IS a good source for policy? Are universally recognized human rights a good source?

 

[Shusha]

Yeah, but few of them actually tried until Hitler started turning them into lampshades.

And your point is what? That people don't have basic human rights until half of them are killed in a genocide?

 

[Shusha]

Except it's the Palestinian's land...

When I hear that, I hear you saying that it Arab Palestinian land. That the land belongs only to a specific group of "Palestinians".

If we were to use the analogy of the US:

The First Nations peoples are not really Americans, because all the real Americans adopted the new culture and there is no proof that First Nations peoples really existed or had a history here

The invaders and colonial immigrants from circa 1600 to circa 1900 are real Americans

Those forced to immigrate due to external factors are not really Americans

Those who chose more recently to immigrate, but were suitably like the European "real" Americans are real Americans

Those who chose to immigrate but were not like the "real" Americans are invaders and colonialists

 

[Shusha]

Well, one of your buddies the OP Zionist, has in fact argued that Jews have more rights to a land, and a homogenous society, because of Hitler's Holocaust.

The Jewish people have rights to the land for reasons which have nothing to do with the Shoah. The fact that the Shoah occurred, though, makes it all the more relevant and necessary for the Jewish people to have a safe and secure homeland.

 

[Shusha]

The Jews were given a homeland... They just wanted more.

So, if we gave the Palestinians a few thousand square miles in, I don't know, say, Chile, that would satisfy their claims, right?

I mean, how much do they need?

 

[Indeependent]

Well, one of your buddies the OP Zionist, has in fact argued that Jews have more rights to a land, and a homogenous society, because of Hitler's Holocaust.

The Jewish people have rights to the land for reasons which have nothing to do with the Shoah. The fact that the Shoah occurred, though, makes it all the more relevant and necessary for the Jewish people to have a safe and secure homeland.

The Jews were given a homeland... They just wanted more.

Jewish Autonomous Oblast - Wikipedia

I suggest taking a gander of a Middle East map and letting us know if you can find Israel without the map maker making it artificially standing out.

 

[Roudy]

Were you there to count them, one by one?

Um, no, one only needs to look at the immigration figures to Palestine.

The British opened Palestine to Colonization (let's call it what it was) and no one was too keen on taking the bait, until 1936 and after.

Go say that to each and every one of the indigenous people all over the world and see the answer you get.
You will not like it.

It goes like this.

It is our land. You are the invader. And like the Jewish People, we have the right to the ancient homeland of our people, as they have the right to the ancient homeland of their people.

Except it's the Palestinian's land, not some Europeans who happen to have a corrupted version of the Religion practiced their 2000 years ago.

Fake history.

 

[Roudy]

Well, one of your buddies the OP Zionist, has in fact argued that Jews have more rights to a land, and a homogenous society, because of Hitler's Holocaust.

The Jewish people have rights to the land for reasons which have nothing to do with the Shoah. The fact that the Shoah occurred, though, makes it all the more relevant and necessary for the Jewish people to have a safe and secure homeland.

The Jews were given a homeland... They just wanted more.

Jewish Autonomous Oblast - Wikipedia

Yeah, look at those greedy Jews that have occupied so much of the Arab Muslim lands:

 

[K9Buck]

The Jews have been wanting to "go back" for over two thousand years.

Yeah, but few of them actually tried until Hitler started turning them into lampshades.

Classless, repugnant k*nt.

 

[K9Buck]

Well, one of your buddies the OP Zionist, has in fact argued that Jews have more rights to a land, and a homogenous society, because of Hitler's Holocaust.

The Jewish people have rights to the land for reasons which have nothing to do with the Shoah. The fact that the Shoah occurred, though, makes it all the more relevant and necessary for the Jewish people to have a safe and secure homeland.

The Jews were given a homeland... They just wanted more.

Jewish Autonomous Oblast - Wikipedia

Yeah, look at those greedy Jews that have occupied so much of the Arab Muslim lands:

Yeah, well how much land would Israel tvke, had it not been for the fact that the World would turn on them if they did?

They gladly gave up the Sinai in return for peace. Israel could have taken Damascus in 67' as well. Israel wants Israel and to have peace with everyone. Satan has been using guys like you to persecute the Jews since time began.

 

[K9Buck]

Yeah, but few of them actually tried until Hitler started turning them into lampshades.

And your point is what? That people don't have basic human rights until half of them are killed in a genocide?

Well, one of your buddies the OP Zionist, has in fact argued that Jews have more rights to a land, and a homogenous society, because of Hitler's Holocaust.

The Jews are a small minority in the world. Israel was intended to be a Jewish state for the Jews. You're too fucking stupid and racist to understand this. That land that was appropriated to the Jews by the world community was a pittance, and still, anti-Semites like you went to war to try and kill every Jew in Israel.

If every Israeli Jew killed themselves and the land was taken over by the Palestinians, you'd be calling for American Jews to be rounded up and gassed.