What is your religion?

What is you religion?


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Do you see? NT Churches, which include amongst their numbers certain Baptist churches, have absolutely no connection, and never have had a connection, to Catholic OR Protestant branches of the religion. They are local, independent churches which have existed SINCE THE TIME OF CHRIST.

There is no evidence supporting the fanciful claim that the Baptist Church is anything other than an off shoot off the Catholic Church.
 
How could the apostles be Catholics when the Catholic church didn't come into existence for, oh, roughly 500 years? Ravi, are you being deliberately stupid, too? With Mani, it's a given...but with you, one never knows when it's the real thing....

Wiki's not the tool of choice when dealing with educated and intelligent people, but when dealing with drooling imbeciles, it can usually provide a general idea.

I wouldn't expect it to be completely accurate about politicians who are currently running, for example.

But I think as far as the "History of Christianity" which is pretty much out there, it can be a useful tool to convey the basics, for tards who think that there are only Protestant and Catholic Christians, and who believe the Apostles were CATHOLICS.
Ignatius of Antioch

A letter written by Ignatius to Christians in Smyrna [3] around 106 is the earliest surviving witness to the use of the term Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8). By Catholic Church Ignatius designated the Christian Church in its universal aspect, excluding heretics, such as those who disavow "the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again" (Smyrnaeans, 7). He called such people "beasts in the shape of men, whom you must not only not receive, but, if it be possible, not even meet with" (Smyrnaeans, 4). The term is also used in the Martyrdom of Polycarp in 155 and in the Muratorian fragment, about 177.


from your favorite source, Wikipedia. :cuckoo:
 
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Ignatius of Antioch

A letter written by Ignatius to Christians in Smyrna [3] around 106 is the earliest surviving witness to the use of the term Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8). By Catholic Church Ignatius designated the Christian Church in its universal aspect, excluding heretics, such as those who disavow "the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again" (Smyrnaeans, 7). He called such people "beasts in the shape of men, whom you must not only not receive, but, if it be possible, not even meet with" (Smyrnaeans, 4). The term is also used in the Martyrdom of Polycarp in 155 and in the Muratorian fragment, about 177.


from your favorite source, Wikipedia. :cuckoo:

Wow, you found the 5% fact? Even I have a hard time doing that ... but then I don't spend much time there.
 
My favorite heretics were the Cathars.

Catharism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Like many medieval movements, there were various schools of thought and practice amongst the Cathari; some were dualistic, others Gnostic, some closer to orthodoxy while abstaining from an acceptance of Catholic doctrines. The dualist theology was the most prominent, however, and was based upon the complete incompatibility of love and power. As matter was seen as a manifestation of power, it was also incompatible with love. They did not believe in one all-encompassing god, but in two, both equal and comparable in status. They held that the physical world was evil and created by Rex Mundi (translated from Latin as "king of the world"), who encompassed all that was corporeal, chaotic and powerful; the second god, the one whom they worshipped, was entirely disincarnate: a being or principle of pure spirit and completely unsullied by the taint of matter. He was the god of love, order and peace."
 
I dunno, I think wiki is probably 80 to 90% based on fact. Believe me, I've tried to change history there without luck.

:redface:

The problem is who does the editing, as with all sites, can choose what they see as fact and what not. How about a Brittanica reference now and then, something with hard fact that is checked by a lot of people with varying ideals and opinions to ensure it isn't too slanted.

Just saying, otherwise don't expect anyone to take your references serious if you post Wikipedia. I have found some seriously messed up crap on there. One said that Anime (Japanese cartoons) were 'porn' and that hentai (Japanese porn) was 'pedophilia'. Another actually claimed Lovecraft was a cult leader, still get good laughs at that one with my friends. One said Asimov was a satanist. Then there was one that I stumbled on looking for 3D art (stupid search engines) that mentioned it was actually looking into another dimension and posted a rendered image as 'proof'.
 
The problem is who does the editing, as with all sites, can choose what they see as fact and what not. How about a Brittanica reference now and then, something with hard fact that is checked by a lot of people with varying ideals and opinions to ensure it isn't too slanted.

Just saying, otherwise don't expect anyone to take your references serious if you post Wikipedia. I have found some seriously messed up crap on there. One said that Anime (Japanese cartoons) were 'porn' and that hentai (Japanese porn) was 'pedophilia'. Another actually claimed Lovecraft was a cult leader, still get good laughs at that one with my friends. One said Asimov was a satanist. Then there was one that I stumbled on looking for 3D art (stupid search engines) that mentioned it was actually looking into another dimension and posted a rendered image as 'proof'.

Hell---we have people here who think they are cats !
 
Ignatius of Antioch

A letter written by Ignatius to Christians in Smyrna [3] around 106 is the earliest surviving witness to the use of the term Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8). By Catholic Church Ignatius designated the Christian Church in its universal aspect, excluding heretics, such as those who disavow "the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again" (Smyrnaeans, 7). He called such people "beasts in the shape of men, whom you must not only not receive, but, if it be possible, not even meet with" (Smyrnaeans, 4). The term is also used in the Martyrdom of Polycarp in 155 and in the Muratorian fragment, about 177.


from your favorite source, Wikipedia. :cuckoo:

I'm not sure what you're trying to convey here.
I shall exhibit wisdom and not say anything until all is made clear.
 
My favorite heretics were the Cathars.

Catharism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Like many medieval movements, there were various schools of thought and practice amongst the Cathari; some were dualistic, others Gnostic, some closer to orthodoxy while abstaining from an acceptance of Catholic doctrines. The dualist theology was the most prominent, however, and was based upon the complete incompatibility of love and power. As matter was seen as a manifestation of power, it was also incompatible with love. They did not believe in one all-encompassing god, but in two, both equal and comparable in status. They held that the physical world was evil and created by Rex Mundi (translated from Latin as "king of the world"), who encompassed all that was corporeal, chaotic and powerful; the second god, the one whom they worshipped, was entirely disincarnate: a being or principle of pure spirit and completely unsullied by the taint of matter. He was the god of love, order and peace."

there's a school of thought that contends that the Cathars were hunted down in pursuit of the Holy Grail. some would agree.
 

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