What is your breaking point?

[G.T.]

My breaking point has already been hit, I think it was the moment I realized that noone in the congress or senate is ever going to stand up for the constitution and impeach this clown for the many violations of his oath. And for this, they all need thrown out again and replaced with constitutionalists. But that wont happen either, too many citizens sucking the gubment Teet for that to happen.

so what are you going to do about it then

Vote, but then again, there is so much voter fraud it's hard to tell if my vote even means anything anymore.

you just said voting wont work.

so youll continue to do what wont work? congratulations, but i donbt think you have the courage of your convictions like everyone else who talks this talk & aint doing shit.

 

[G.T.]

i think mine is when the economy collapses or when the US government debt is never addressed/reversed.

wow, i'm guess i'm close huh?

so 2008?

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

i think mine is when the economy collapses or when the US government debt is never addressed/reversed.

wow, i'm guess i'm close huh?

so 2008?

well, the debt was forgotten starting in the 1970s/1980s. i'll have to get back to you on the economy collapsing.

 

[Sirkarl101]

My breaking point has already been hit, I think it was the moment I realized that noone in the congress or senate is ever going to stand up for the constitution and impeach this clown for the many violations of his oath. And for this, they all need thrown out again and replaced with constitutionalists. But that wont happen either, too many citizens sucking the gubment Teet for that to happen.

I agree however I do not limit it to just this administration but reaching all the way back to Kennedy who enacted the first executive orders to the best of my knowledge. These orders are wrong. They violate rights and they add to them every year...Check them out. Check points on our roads. Work camps. Control of all resources. What the hell....They are under FEMA.

 

[Iridescence]

What is your breaking point? Taking your guns? Taxing you more? Taking away your right to assemble? Freedom of speech? government corruption? I believe everyone has one and I am curious as to what the majority think. Personally mine is the freedom to bear arms as it is the last fail safe or line of defense in the event of a rogue government. Thank You for any input.

Intrusiveness in non-violent family matters.

In studying a few of the more shunned areas of religion, I have found it interesting that the very methods having said been used by those most manipulative of the human mind are methods used daily by those with 'papers' deeming them 'equipped' and 'recognized'.

 

[Sirkarl101]

i think mine is when the economy collapses or when the US government debt is never addressed/reversed.

wow, i'm guess i'm close huh?

so 2008?

Off topic new daddy, congrats from a new grandpa.

 

[G.T.]

i think mine is when the economy collapses or when the US government debt is never addressed/reversed.

wow, i'm guess i'm close huh?

so 2008?

Off topic new daddy, congrats from a new grandpa.

Congrats to you as well man! I appreciate that!

And a conspiracy that *I* used to harbor was that there weren't nice people left in the world. Luckily, that's less and less true every day!

 

[grunt11b]

The Government has nukes. Your guns are irrelevant to them. They're not going to put us in "camps" and shit dude. It's 2012. The whole world is watching.

The world doesn't give a rats ass about us, they are pissed off at us, mostly because of our own economic situation that has riffled to there own countries. I used to think the one world order crowd was crazy, but the more I learn about it the more it makes sense in the direction we and many other countries are headed. That and look at how many presidents in the past has mentioned "One world order". Nobody is coming to our rescue, noone.
FDR set precedent in encampments in the 40's after pearl harbor was bombed when he interned the japanese citizens, the fema camps where built for incarceration, not to help people in need after a hurricane. Everything these people have brought to the table in the last 100 years has been designed to transform this country from what it once was into a tyranny. It's all on schedule and there will be an endgame.
To be naive is to be willing to let it happen. Everybody always says it could never happen here, I say it is already happening.

That's loony.

Half the dudes in Government TRULY hate each other, they're not all going around keeping a "big secret."

And lemme know the purpose of "starting" a shift towards a one world order conspiracy over 100 years ago that's "on schedule" when its supposed Founders/designers are too dead by now to reap any of its benefits anyways.

Ridiculous.

The only grandiose conspiracy in the world is the delegation of resources. But it's really not a conspiracy or hidden, it's being done right out in the open. & newsflash, (and i thought you were military?)...................the boys and girls who are all of our families are not going to encamp us. The Japanese were let go after WWII and it was frowned upon, what happened, and you didn't go seeing Muslim Americans across the country sent to camps, less the few terror suspects out of what is a VAST Muslim population in America.

There's noone under your bed, for real I checked.

Our military would never turn against us, we all know this, but that would not keep Nato from implementing the responsibility to protect laws that they have been utiliazing in the last decade, I.E. libya.
Responsibility to Protect - International Crisis Group
Who's to say they wouldn't utilize this method to protect us from "ourselves"?. Yes, it probably would never happen, but I like to brainstorm how it could happen and this seems the route that would be the most logical. Our soldiers are sworn to protect the constitution, nato soldiers are not. Ask yourself this, are you more free today then you where 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 30 years ago?, etc? No, we are not, the noose keeps getting tighter, so what logic could you possibly use to say we are not becoming less free as a nation?

 

[grunt11b]

so what are you going to do about it then

Vote, but then again, there is so much voter fraud it's hard to tell if my vote even means anything anymore.

you just said voting wont work.

so youll continue to do what wont work? congratulations, but i donbt think you have the courage of your convictions like everyone else who talks this talk & aint doing shit.

Where did I say voting wont work? All I said was that it;s hard to tell with all the voter fraud if my vote even counts, I didnt say it doesn't work, clearly after the shalacking the democrats took in 2010 it apparently works, except if you have deep pockets in areas like Harry Reids and Mcaskills and can buy out an election "Both of which should have lost in 2010 but somehow managed to pull it off through the always fraudulent absentee ballots that the left like to use". Also, I know Mcaskill is a republican, but she is a rino and can be counted as democrat.

 

[ba1614]

My breaking point would be an attempt to take my land that I'm the 12th generation to work, but I've got a lot more to worry about than that with what's going on in this country today.

 

[G.T.]

The world doesn't give a rats ass about us, they are pissed off at us, mostly because of our own economic situation that has riffled to there own countries. I used to think the one world order crowd was crazy, but the more I learn about it the more it makes sense in the direction we and many other countries are headed. That and look at how many presidents in the past has mentioned "One world order". Nobody is coming to our rescue, noone.
FDR set precedent in encampments in the 40's after pearl harbor was bombed when he interned the japanese citizens, the fema camps where built for incarceration, not to help people in need after a hurricane. Everything these people have brought to the table in the last 100 years has been designed to transform this country from what it once was into a tyranny. It's all on schedule and there will be an endgame.
To be naive is to be willing to let it happen. Everybody always says it could never happen here, I say it is already happening.

That's loony.

Half the dudes in Government TRULY hate each other, they're not all going around keeping a "big secret."

And lemme know the purpose of "starting" a shift towards a one world order conspiracy over 100 years ago that's "on schedule" when its supposed Founders/designers are too dead by now to reap any of its benefits anyways.

Ridiculous.

The only grandiose conspiracy in the world is the delegation of resources. But it's really not a conspiracy or hidden, it's being done right out in the open. & newsflash, (and i thought you were military?)...................the boys and girls who are all of our families are not going to encamp us. The Japanese were let go after WWII and it was frowned upon, what happened, and you didn't go seeing Muslim Americans across the country sent to camps, less the few terror suspects out of what is a VAST Muslim population in America.

There's noone under your bed, for real I checked.

Our military would never turn against us, we all know this, but that would not keep Nato from implementing the responsibility to protect laws that they have been utiliazing in the last decade, I.E. libya.
Responsibility to Protect - International Crisis Group
Who's to say they wouldn't utilize this method to protect us from "ourselves"?. Yes, it probably would never happen, but I like to brainstorm how it could happen and this seems the route that would be the most logical. Our soldiers are sworn to protect the constitution, nato soldiers are not. Ask yourself this, are you more free today then you where 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 30 years ago?, etc? No, we are not, the noose keeps getting tighter, so what logic could you possibly use to say we are not becoming less free as a nation?

I dont feel any less free, personally. Good post though, it's a little less hyperbolic. Cheers, mayte.

 

[WatertheTree]

What is your breaking point? Taking your guns? Taxing you more? Taking away your right to assemble? Freedom of speech? government corruption? I believe everyone has one and I am curious as to what the majority think. Personally mine is the freedom to bear arms as it is the last fail safe or line of defense in the event of a rogue government. Thank You for any input.

What does breaking point mean?

The point where you start to actually get involved in shaping your government?
The point where you stand in the street and hold a sign?
The point where you passively resist the system?
The point where you actively resist the system?
The point where criminal behavior becomes acceptable for the greater good?
The point where violence turns into the solution??

Thank you for the responses. In answer to what is the breaking point. My feelings are that my breaking point is the point of where everyone else and everything is insignificant. It is the point of viewing all the chatter about issues are ear numbing as it is business as usual and no matter what you say or do is of no consequence. It is the point of where I believe that all are for themselves and unity has limitations based on self interest. Point is where all you listed above in your comment are no longer options as I believe they are of not a means of achieving anything.
In summary it is where you I find myself neck deep in peoples bull shit about solutions while my rights are being stripped, my means of survival being erased and people insisting that political correctness and cordial and polite behavior must always be performed. I no longer hold to societies demands. If others offend me, I let them know. If others try and harm me in any way I react in the most viscous and precise manner I can legally. It is the point the legal no longer restrains my actions is THAT IS MY BREAKING POINT. Have a nice day.

I am already there and beyond. I support Ron Paul because its time to starve them all at the vine. No more arguments. No more compromise. Were bringing back freedom and returning power to the states and the people. No more single government for corporate power to control. No more federal reserve.

The only people who like big federal government are rent seekers. They want to pervert government and use it for there own personal gain. Enough is enough. Rent seekers are parasites on society and its high time they get swatted.

 

[DaGoose]

What is your breaking point? Taking your guns? Taxing you more? Taking away your right to assemble? Freedom of speech? government corruption? I believe everyone has one and I am curious as to what the majority think. Personally mine is the freedom to bear arms as it is the last fail safe or line of defense in the event of a rogue government. Thank You for any input.

My breaking points are the continuing attempts by the RW to give "big gubmint" more control of my personal life and decisions as defined by neo-con morals.

 

[grunt11b]

That's loony.

Half the dudes in Government TRULY hate each other, they're not all going around keeping a "big secret."

And lemme know the purpose of "starting" a shift towards a one world order conspiracy over 100 years ago that's "on schedule" when its supposed Founders/designers are too dead by now to reap any of its benefits anyways.

Ridiculous.

The only grandiose conspiracy in the world is the delegation of resources. But it's really not a conspiracy or hidden, it's being done right out in the open. & newsflash, (and i thought you were military?)...................the boys and girls who are all of our families are not going to encamp us. The Japanese were let go after WWII and it was frowned upon, what happened, and you didn't go seeing Muslim Americans across the country sent to camps, less the few terror suspects out of what is a VAST Muslim population in America.

There's noone under your bed, for real I checked.

Our military would never turn against us, we all know this, but that would not keep Nato from implementing the responsibility to protect laws that they have been utiliazing in the last decade, I.E. libya.
Responsibility to Protect - International Crisis Group
Who's to say they wouldn't utilize this method to protect us from "ourselves"?. Yes, it probably would never happen, but I like to brainstorm how it could happen and this seems the route that would be the most logical. Our soldiers are sworn to protect the constitution, nato soldiers are not. Ask yourself this, are you more free today then you where 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 30 years ago?, etc? No, we are not, the noose keeps getting tighter, so what logic could you possibly use to say we are not becoming less free as a nation?

I dont feel any less free, personally. Good post though, it's a little less hyperbolic. Cheers, mayte.

I do not feel any less free now than I did 10 years ago either, I live in small town rural america and have not had to deal with the effects of the regime, but that does not mean we as a people are not less free as a whole. Look at the DHS check points being put up on interstates and at random, look at the TSA screening that people have to go through now "I bet they fee less free, and they did nothing to deserve it" and it is all being done in the name of our own protection. Israel does not do it's people the way our government does us at the airport and they have not had a terror attack in the last what...20 years or so at one? DO you know why this is? Because they racially profile, they know who is there enemy and take care if it....while we sit back and worry about who might be offended. Last I checked it was middle eastern people who conducted 9/11, we should treat each one that is not a Citizen as a suspect, regardless of what they think about it.
In the name of "Our own protection" our government tightens the noose. There terrorists have already won, if we give up our liberties in exchange for security.

 

[G.T.]

It's not a liberty to drive by a public road without a check-point man. I mean, if that's all I lose then I'm ok to sleep at night.

 

[grunt11b]

What is your breaking point? Taking your guns? Taxing you more? Taking away your right to assemble? Freedom of speech? government corruption? I believe everyone has one and I am curious as to what the majority think. Personally mine is the freedom to bear arms as it is the last fail safe or line of defense in the event of a rogue government. Thank You for any input.

My breaking points are the continuing attempts by the RW to give "big gubmint" more control of my personal life and decisions as defined by neo-con morals.

Can you explain who in the RW is doing this and what exactly they are doing to gain control of your personal life and decisions?
Also, would you agree that the individual mandate in obamacare "All signed into law by the left" would also take control of your personal life and decisions on healthcare?

 

[G.T.]

What is your breaking point? Taking your guns? Taxing you more? Taking away your right to assemble? Freedom of speech? government corruption? I believe everyone has one and I am curious as to what the majority think. Personally mine is the freedom to bear arms as it is the last fail safe or line of defense in the event of a rogue government. Thank You for any input.

My breaking points are the continuing attempts by the RW to give "big gubmint" more control of my personal life and decisions as defined by neo-con morals.

Can you explain who in the RW is doing this and what exactly they are doing to gain control of your personal life and decisions?
Also, would you agree that the individual mandate in obamacare "All signed into law by the left" would also take control of your personal life and decisions on healthcare?

To claim the left owns that by itself is disengenuous. The Heritage Foundation invented the idea, and only became against it b/c the Left were the ones who were about to implement it (at the time of the HC debate). It's hypocrisy and dishonesty at its finest, the way they flopped on that "just because" it was their political opposition. No principles.

 

[grunt11b]

It's not a liberty to drive by a public road without a check-point man. I mean, if that's all I lose then I'm ok to sleep at night.

That's besides the point, it's mission creep, and when will it end? Little by little they become just that much more intrusive, until one day you wake up and are like "What fuck happened", where did my country go". Check this out.
Khrushchev has to be looking up through the smoke and flames and smiling. What he wasn’t able to accomplish as Commander and Chief of a military complex that rivaled the world’s most powerful nation is now being accomplished as he predicted, without firing a shot! As Norman Mattoon Thomas, presidential candidate for the Socialist Party said in 1984, “the American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
We Will Bury You without Firing a Shot

 

[Full-Auto]

It's not a liberty to drive by a public road without a check-point man. I mean, if that's all I lose then I'm ok to sleep at night.

So you approve of unreasonable search and seizure.

Figures...............

 

[G.T.]

It's not a liberty to drive by a public road without a check-point man. I mean, if that's all I lose then I'm ok to sleep at night.

That's besides the point, it's mission creep, and when will it end? Little by little they become just that much more intrusive, until one day you wake up and are like "What fuck happened", where did my country go". Check this out.
Khrushchev has to be looking up through the smoke and flames and smiling. What he wasn’t able to accomplish as Commander and Chief of a military complex that rivaled the world’s most powerful nation is now being accomplished as he predicted, without firing a shot! As Norman Mattoon Thomas, presidential candidate for the Socialist Party said in 1984, “the American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
We Will Bury You without Firing a Shot

I don't subscribe to grandiose theories like that, to be honest. I can make some shit up to that has some inklings of truth mixed with un-verifiable propoganda and go "AHA!" and then I'm Alex Jones.