What is wrong with Romney?

[JimBowie1958]

Same problem McCain had really. The GOP likes to run people when they think it's their turn, regardless of what they stand for.

The GOP elite does, not the rank and file party activists.

 

[California Girl]

Well, he is a Progressive liberal and ran his state that way... He had to use massive federal money to make his HC plan not sink his state and he lies about near everything if it could possibly make him look weak.

Mitt Offers no less spending than Obama and talks about entering more wars. Mitt is loony toonz because getting the position of President is a notch on his belt, just like being Governor was.


Only idiot neocons would vote for someone like Mitt, people that only care about big Government policies and spending when a Democrat does it. Mitt's record is a polar opposite of what he talks about.

Mass is a liberal state. Naturally, he worked with them to get things done. And he did good in Mass. Mitt's smart. He knows how to work with liberals. That is a good thing. If we had a President who would work with the right, we'd be in a much better position than we are now. I like Mitt.

 

[nitroz]

Romney is religious and he wants to bring it into presidency/politics.

Church and State: Keep Them Separated

 

[California Girl]

Romney is religious and he wants to bring it into presidency/politics.

Church and State: Keep Them Separated

Yes, he is and no, he doesn't. But your hysteria is funny.

 

[nitroz]

Romney is religious and he wants to bring it into presidency/politics.

Church and State: Keep Them Separated

Yes, he is and no, he doesn't. But your hysteria is funny.

 

[California Girl]

Romney is religious and he wants to bring it into presidency/politics.

Church and State: Keep Them Separated

Yes, he is and no, he doesn't. But your hysteria is funny.

I would have thought would have been more appropriate.

 

[nitroz]

Yes, he is and no, he doesn't. But your hysteria is funny.

I would have thought would have been more appropriate.

What?
I can't have "evil" intentions?

 

[HUGGY]

Yes, he is and no, he doesn't. But your hysteria is funny.

I would have thought would have been more appropriate.

Your hysteria over Nitroz choice of emoticons is making me sad.

 

[jillian]

Let me preface this by saying that he is who I will be voting for on Tuesday because I think he is the best of the bunch. But I think he has the worst run campaign I have ever seen, judging off of things like the tax return fiasco. And the fact that he is back home in Mass. this weekend instead of campaigning in the South. This idiot has a real chance to win Alabama according to about three polls but instead of coming down here he is spending his weekend in Mass. What a dunce! Not even going to try to go after most of 50 delegates and finally win a true southern state and really hurt the Santorum campaign.

the problem with romney's campaign isn't how it's run. it's the candidate.

my feeling as someone who probably would have voted for him for governor of massachusetts: he seems to be a decent guy. he seems to be a fairly smart guy. he is incredibly socially awkward and is embarrassed by his own status as a person of wealth. he can't connect with "real people" for the same reasons daddy bush couldn't ... there is no realm of experience that prepares him for it. even his silliness about reciting song lyrics on the stump is odd and a bit unsettling. but he does it because frankly, he is totally disconnected and can't do anything else.

it is also unnatural for him to play rightwingnut. he is not an ideologue... he's a deal maker. it's also embarrassing for him to have to oppose the healthcare plan that HE passed in his own state... after urging the president to enact that same plan.

and when the economy started to improve, his talking about how it improved "but not enough" rings as false as his saying that he didn't think romneycare (which had been constructed by the heritage foundation) should be nationally implemented.

as for him being absent in the south.. that is a huge problem for a party that has relied on its "southern strategy" for 40 years. he made a massive mistake saying the south is an "away game" for him.

his biggest problem... he's fairly honest about who he is. he told the truth about not connecting in the south. for him to be aggressive down there and then lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaigh than making a full effort and coming up short.

 

[Mac1958]

Let me preface this by saying that he is who I will be voting for on Tuesday because I think he is the best of the bunch. But I think he has the worst run campaign I have ever seen, judging off of things like the tax return fiasco. And the fact that he is back home in Mass. this weekend instead of campaigning in the South. This idiot has a real chance to win Alabama according to about three polls but instead of coming down here he is spending his weekend in Mass. What a dunce! Not even going to try to go after most of 50 delegates and finally win a true southern state and really hurt the Santorum campaign.

the problem with romney's campaign isn't how it's run. it's the candidate.

my feeling as someone who probably would have voted for him for governor of massachusetts: he seems to be a decent guy. he seems to be a fairly smart guy. he is incredibly socially awkward and is embarrassed by his own status as a person of wealth. he can't connect with "real people" for the same reasons daddy bush couldn't ... there is no realm of experience that prepares him for it. even his silliness about reciting song lyrics on the stump is odd and a bit unsettling. but he does it because frankly, he is totally disconnected and can't do anything else.

it is also unnatural for him to play rightwingnut. he is not an ideologue... he's a deal maker. it's also embarrassing for him to have to oppose the healthcare plan that HE passed in his own state... after urging the president to enact that same plan.

and when the economy started to improve, his talking about how it improved "but not enough" rings as false as his saying that he didn't think romneycare (which had been constructed by the heritage foundation) should be nationally implemented.

as for him being absent in the south.. that is a huge problem for a party that has relied on its "southern strategy" for 40 years. he made a massive mistake saying the south is an "away game" for him.

his biggest problem... he's fairly honest about who he is. he told the truth about not connecting in the south. for him to be aggressive down there and then lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaigh than making a full effort and coming up short.

One of the most lucid, reasonable descriptions of Romney I've seen yet, well done.

The guy is awkward and doesn't connect. There are obviously plenty of people like that, it doesn't make you evil, but it's obviously a significant handicap when you're running for President. Add that to the fact that he just seems so eager to please, and you have a guy who isn't easy to trust.

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[PredFan]

Let me preface this by saying that he is who I will be voting for on Tuesday because I think he is the best of the bunch. But I think he has the worst run campaign I have ever seen, judging off of things like the tax return fiasco. And the fact that he is back home in Mass. this weekend instead of campaigning in the South. This idiot has a real chance to win Alabama according to about three polls but instead of coming down here he is spending his weekend in Mass. What a dunce! Not even going to try to go after most of 50 delegates and finally win a true southern state and really hurt the Santorum campaign.

the problem with romney's campaign isn't how it's run. it's the candidate.

my feeling as someone who probably would have voted for him for governor of massachusetts: he seems to be a decent guy. he seems to be a fairly smart guy. he is incredibly socially awkward and is embarrassed by his own status as a person of wealth. he can't connect with "real people" for the same reasons daddy bush couldn't ... there is no realm of experience that prepares him for it. even his silliness about reciting song lyrics on the stump is odd and a bit unsettling. but he does it because frankly, he is totally disconnected and can't do anything else.

it is also unnatural for him to play rightwingnut. he is not an ideologue... he's a deal maker. it's also embarrassing for him to have to oppose the healthcare plan that HE passed in his own state... after urging the president to enact that same plan.

and when the economy started to improve, his talking about how it improved "but not enough" rings as false as his saying that he didn't think romneycare (which had been constructed by the heritage foundation) should be nationally implemented.

as for him being absent in the south.. that is a huge problem for a party that has relied on its "southern strategy" for 40 years. he made a massive mistake saying the south is an "away game" for him.

his biggest problem... he's fairly honest about who he is. he told the truth about not connecting in the south. for him to be aggressive down there and then lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaigh than making a full effort and coming up short.

One of the most lucid, reasonable descriptions of Romney I've seen yet, well done.

The guy is awkward and doesn't connect. There are obviously plenty of people like that, it doesn't make you evil, but it's obviously a significant handicap when you're running for President. Add that to the fact that he just seems so eager to please, and you have a guy who isn't easy to trust.

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What? Liberals are finding something wrong with Romney? Unbelievable!

 

[editec]

Seems to me that USING THE SAME DEFINITIONS THAT THE RIGHT WINGERS ON THIS BOARD LIKE TO USE TO DESCRIBE PROGRESSIVES?

Mitt ought to be the American conservative movement's worst mightmare.

Of course, I don't mean to tell you guys how to run YOUR party or anything, but if you CON guys and gals really do believe half the shit you folks post about government taxes and freedom, MITT isn't really much different that any other SOCIALIST (again, using your definition of the word, not mine).

 

[Mac1958]

the problem with romney's campaign isn't how it's run. it's the candidate.

my feeling as someone who probably would have voted for him for governor of massachusetts: he seems to be a decent guy. he seems to be a fairly smart guy. he is incredibly socially awkward and is embarrassed by his own status as a person of wealth. he can't connect with "real people" for the same reasons daddy bush couldn't ... there is no realm of experience that prepares him for it. even his silliness about reciting song lyrics on the stump is odd and a bit unsettling. but he does it because frankly, he is totally disconnected and can't do anything else.

it is also unnatural for him to play rightwingnut. he is not an ideologue... he's a deal maker. it's also embarrassing for him to have to oppose the healthcare plan that HE passed in his own state... after urging the president to enact that same plan.

and when the economy started to improve, his talking about how it improved "but not enough" rings as false as his saying that he didn't think romneycare (which had been constructed by the heritage foundation) should be nationally implemented.

as for him being absent in the south.. that is a huge problem for a party that has relied on its "southern strategy" for 40 years. he made a massive mistake saying the south is an "away game" for him.

his biggest problem... he's fairly honest about who he is. he told the truth about not connecting in the south. for him to be aggressive down there and then lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaigh than making a full effort and coming up short.

One of the most lucid, reasonable descriptions of Romney I've seen yet, well done.

The guy is awkward and doesn't connect. There are obviously plenty of people like that, it doesn't make you evil, but it's obviously a significant handicap when you're running for President. Add that to the fact that he just seems so eager to please, and you have a guy who isn't easy to trust.

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What? Liberals are finding something wrong with Romney? Unbelievable!

If you want to pretend that Romney is perfect, okay, your call, I see it with partisans on both sides all the time. It is possible, however, to admit weaknesses in candidates from your party without being arrested. It is possible to be reasonable and honest, too.

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[jillian]

Let me preface this by saying that he is who I will be voting for on Tuesday because I think he is the best of the bunch. But I think he has the worst run campaign I have ever seen, judging off of things like the tax return fiasco. And the fact that he is back home in Mass. this weekend instead of campaigning in the South. This idiot has a real chance to win Alabama according to about three polls but instead of coming down here he is spending his weekend in Mass. What a dunce! Not even going to try to go after most of 50 delegates and finally win a true southern state and really hurt the Santorum campaign.

the problem with romney's campaign isn't how it's run. it's the candidate.

my feeling as someone who probably would have voted for him for governor of massachusetts: he seems to be a decent guy. he seems to be a fairly smart guy. he is incredibly socially awkward and is embarrassed by his own status as a person of wealth. he can't connect with "real people" for the same reasons daddy bush couldn't ... there is no realm of experience that prepares him for it. even his silliness about reciting song lyrics on the stump is odd and a bit unsettling. but he does it because frankly, he is totally disconnected and can't do anything else.

it is also unnatural for him to play rightwingnut. he is not an ideologue... he's a deal maker. it's also embarrassing for him to have to oppose the healthcare plan that HE passed in his own state... after urging the president to enact that same plan.

and when the economy started to improve, his talking about how it improved "but not enough" rings as false as his saying that he didn't think romneycare (which had been constructed by the heritage foundation) should be nationally implemented.

as for him being absent in the south.. that is a huge problem for a party that has relied on its "southern strategy" for 40 years. he made a massive mistake saying the south is an "away game" for him.

his biggest problem... he's fairly honest about who he is. he told the truth about not connecting in the south. for him to be aggressive down there and then lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaigh than making a full effort and coming up short.

One of the most lucid, reasonable descriptions of Romney I've seen yet, well done.

The guy is awkward and doesn't connect. There are obviously plenty of people like that, it doesn't make you evil, but it's obviously a significant handicap when you're running for President. Add that to the fact that he just seems so eager to please, and you have a guy who isn't easy to trust.

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thank you.i appreciate the kind words.

just to correct my last sentence, what it should have said is that for him to be aggressive down there and lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaign than NOT making a full effort and coming up short.

i think the people who vote for romney have made a choice based on business acumen, much the way one would choose a banker. the problem is that the US isn't a business... and there is a difference in what's needed when you're bleeding 750,000 jobs a month and when you're creating over 200,000 jobs a month.

hence the discussion turning to contraception.

 

[PredFan]

As I'm pretty sure that the OP was asking Republican voters, I will answer. Keep in mind that even though I'm a registered Republican I am decidedly Libertarian.

Romney has a credibility issue with me. Even after I put aside all the things that I disagree with him on (Me, being a Libertarian) I just cannot trust him to do the things I would expect of a Republican. I am not convinced that he will repeal obamacare, I am not convinced that he will reduce government spending, and I am not convinced that he will run the country like a businessman. Having followed the last 2 presidential races, (9 in total) I am familiar with Romney, and familiar with what he says compared to wht he has done and what he has said.

That's what is wrong with Romney, and what is right about Romney is that with all his faults, he's 10 times better than obama.

 

[jillian]

As I'm pretty sure that the OP was asking Republican voters, I will answer. Keep in mind that even though I'm a registered Republican I am decidedly Libertarian.

Romney has a credibility issue with me. Even after I put aside all the things that I disagree with him on (Me, being a Libertarian) I just cannot trust him to do the things I would expect of a Republican. I am not convinced that he will repeal obamacare, I am not convinced that he will reduce government spending, and I am not convinced that he will run the country like a businessman. Having followed the last 2 presidential races, (9 in total) I am familiar with Romney, and familiar with what he says compared to wht he has done and what he has said.

That's what is wrong with Romney, and what is right about Romney is that with all his faults, he's 10 times better than obama.

why would you think the o/p is asking "republicans". i've voted republican enough times where i'm probably the better gauge. just sayin

thank you though for pointing out what the real problem is... it's the rightwingnut base and the difficulties of appealing to it if one is a normal moderate person.

btw, you aren't a libertarian if you're anti-choice.

just sayin

 

[JimBowie1958]

Let me preface this by saying that he is who I will be voting for on Tuesday because I think he is the best of the bunch. But I think he has the worst run campaign I have ever seen, judging off of things like the tax return fiasco. And the fact that he is back home in Mass. this weekend instead of campaigning in the South. This idiot has a real chance to win Alabama according to about three polls but instead of coming down here he is spending his weekend in Mass. What a dunce! Not even going to try to go after most of 50 delegates and finally win a true southern state and really hurt the Santorum campaign.

the problem with romney's campaign isn't how it's run. it's the candidate.

my feeling as someone who probably would have voted for him for governor of massachusetts: he seems to be a decent guy. he seems to be a fairly smart guy. he is incredibly socially awkward and is embarrassed by his own status as a person of wealth. he can't connect with "real people" for the same reasons daddy bush couldn't ... there is no realm of experience that prepares him for it. even his silliness about reciting song lyrics on the stump is odd and a bit unsettling. but he does it because frankly, he is totally disconnected and can't do anything else.

it is also unnatural for him to play rightwingnut. he is not an ideologue... he's a deal maker. it's also embarrassing for him to have to oppose the healthcare plan that HE passed in his own state... after urging the president to enact that same plan.

and when the economy started to improve, his talking about how it improved "but not enough" rings as false as his saying that he didn't think romneycare (which had been constructed by the heritage foundation) should be nationally implemented.

as for him being absent in the south.. that is a huge problem for a party that has relied on its "southern strategy" for 40 years. he made a massive mistake saying the south is an "away game" for him.

his biggest problem... he's fairly honest about who he is. he told the truth about not connecting in the south. for him to be aggressive down there and then lose, which he will, would be far more embarrassing to the campaigh than making a full effort and coming up short.

One of the most lucid, reasonable descriptions of Romney I've seen yet, well done.

The guy is awkward and doesn't connect. There are obviously plenty of people like that, it doesn't make you evil, but it's obviously a significant handicap when you're running for President. Add that to the fact that he just seems so eager to please, and you have a guy who isn't easy to trust.

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True.

What makes him evil is that he made a backroom deal with Log Cabin gay GOP to give them gay marriage then pretended to be unable to oppose a toothless court ruling on gay marriage, then lied more saying he opposed gay marriage.

What makes him evil is his plans to raise taxes on a gallon of gasoline by $2, and institute a national VAT without compensating cuts in income tax rates while claiming to be against tax increases.

What makes him evil is his support for enviro-wacko agendas like Global Warming, believes in Keynesian economics and wants national health care while lying to everyone saying he opposes these things.

He also backed one of the most draconian gun grabbing 'assault weapon' bans in this nation and then lies saying he had to do it and that, besides, he was a life time member of the NRA.

What makes him evil is how he has (via proxies) slandered and sabotaged the political plans of Palin, Cain, Perry, Bachman, Gingrich and now is trying to destroy Santorums reputation also using tens of millions of dollars from Wall Street bankers to buy loads of advertising to endlessly repeat his lies and smears. Prior to the Romnulans involvement all these people were respecting men and women in their field. Thus he has no respect for human dignity since he willingly engages in collosal calumny and lies.

What makes him evil is how he can lie so well after so much practice that he can even convince gullible conservatives and Tea Party movement people to support him when his track record clearly indicates (as does his staff and donors) that he is more liberal than Obama himself.

Hell, sometimes I get the feeling he lies so well he has manged to convince himself he really believes these things from time to time.

 

[JoeB131]

Makes you scratch your head.

NOt really. He knows that he's going to lose these Southern States (again, what kind of GOP candidate flips the bird to his party's strongest supporters?) and he doesn't want to see having put a real effort into them.

If he campaigns in those states and loses, we are going to get the narrative about the "Brokered Convention" again. We'll probably get that anyway, and it'll be hysterical.

 

[JoeB131]

I think he has run an excellent campaign. He has more delegates than all of the other candidates combined and he has raised more cash. He will be hard for Obama to beat.

Oooookay, you keep drinking the Koolaid.

In 2008, McCain had it wrapped up by now. He was facing truly worthy opponents.

In 2000, Bush-43 had it wrapped up by now.

This year, he's running against clowns, and he's barely ahead of them, even with the GOP establishment doing everything they can to rig the game in his favor.

Obama will beat him, easily.

 

[JoeB131]

It begins and ends with Romneycare. If Obama never pushed Obaminationcare, then Romney would be running away with the nomination!

Funny he was considered the most conservative option in 2008! Rush, Levin, Hannity, Savage etc all said Romney was the conservative candidate. Fast forward to 2012 and now he is the liberal candidate. Nothing change, EXCEPT the passing of Obaminationcare!

I think you draw the wrong interpretation of 2008.

He wasn't the most conservative, Huckabee was.

And Huckabee was sincere.

What you forget about all those talking heads is that they are all paid by big corporations. The real problem is that Corporate Conservatism and Social Conservatism aren't on the same page.

The big corporations don't give a shit about Abortion or Gay Marriage or gettin' Jay-a-zus into your life. They just want laws friendly to Wall Street, and Romney is that guy.

Huckabee actually believed in all that Jay-a-zus shit, and that scared the corporate guys.

Here's the ugly little truth. The religious right could win elections without the corporate right. Easily. They'd even have an easier time of it, because a lot of religious people vote Democrats and aren't fooled into voting against their own economic interests.