What is the REAL unemployment rate?

[McRocket]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

 

[pinqy]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

With 90% confidence between 3.5% and 3.9%
Using the BLS and ILO definitions.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?

Easy! The Lowest Ever!!!

#MAGA

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

With 90% confidence between 3.5% and 3.9%
Using the BLS and ILO definitions.

"Just one month before the 2012 election, the Obama campaign received a major illegal campaign contribution from the Commerce Department. The Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported on October 5, 2012 that the nation’s unemployment rate suddenly dropped sharply over the prior month, from 8.1% to 7.8%. That supposedly ended the longest period in the nation’s history with unemployment over 8%, except for the Great Depression, which occurred under President Obama.

Just before the election. How convenient."
Did The BLS Give Obama A Major Election 2012 Gift?


Sooo......you believe Trump won the election via collusion with Putin, too?






“Just two years before the Presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report….And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond one employee – ..."
Ibid.




Wise up.

 

[pinqy]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

With 90% confidence between 3.5% and 3.9%
Using the BLS and ILO definitions.

"Just one month before the 2012 election, the Obama campaign received a major illegal campaign contribution from the Commerce Department. The Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported on October 5, 2012 that the nation’s unemployment rate suddenly dropped sharply over the prior month, from 8.1% to 7.8%. That supposedly ended the longest period in the nation’s history with unemployment over 8%, except for the Great Depression, which occurred under President Obama.

Just before the election. How convenient."
Did The BLS Give Obama A Major Election 2012 Gift?


Sooo......you believe Trump won the election via collusion with Putin, too?






“Just two years before the Presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report….And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond one employee – ..."
Ibid.




Wise up.

INVESTIGATIVE REPORT
U.S. Census Bureau
Unsubstantiated Allegations that the Philadelphia Regional Office Manipulated the Unemployment Survey Leading up to the 2012 Presidential Election to Cause a Decrease in the National Unemployment Rate

From the executive summary: “Addressing allegations raised in the media, we found no evidence that the national unemployment rate was manipulated by staff in the Philadelphia Regional Office in the months leading up to the 2012 presidential election. To accomplish this, our analysis concluded that it would have taken 78 Census Bureau Field Representatives working together, in a coordinated way, to report each and every unemployed person included in their sample as “employed” or “not in labor force” during September 2012, an effort which likely would have been detected by the Census Bureau’s quality assurance procedures. Moreover, our analysis shows that the drop in the unemployment rate at that time is consistent with other indicators, including payroll estimates by Moody’s Analytics and Automatic Data Processing (ADP).”

And let’s look at the change in context:

The October change doesn’t look odd now, does it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

With 90% confidence between 3.5% and 3.9%
Using the BLS and ILO definitions.

"Just one month before the 2012 election, the Obama campaign received a major illegal campaign contribution from the Commerce Department. The Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported on October 5, 2012 that the nation’s unemployment rate suddenly dropped sharply over the prior month, from 8.1% to 7.8%. That supposedly ended the longest period in the nation’s history with unemployment over 8%, except for the Great Depression, which occurred under President Obama.

Just before the election. How convenient."
Did The BLS Give Obama A Major Election 2012 Gift?


Sooo......you believe Trump won the election via collusion with Putin, too?






“Just two years before the Presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report….And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond one employee – ..."
Ibid.




Wise up.

INVESTIGATIVE REPORT
U.S. Census Bureau
Unsubstantiated Allegations that the Philadelphia Regional Office Manipulated the Unemployment Survey Leading up to the 2012 Presidential Election to Cause a Decrease in the National Unemployment Rate

From the executive summary: “Addressing allegations raised in the media, we found no evidence that the national unemployment rate was manipulated by staff in the Philadelphia Regional Office in the months leading up to the 2012 presidential election. To accomplish this, our analysis concluded that it would have taken 78 Census Bureau Field Representatives working together, in a coordinated way, to report each and every unemployed person included in their sample as “employed” or “not in labor force” during September 2012, an effort which likely would have been detected by the Census Bureau’s quality assurance procedures. Moreover, our analysis shows that the drop in the unemployment rate at that time is consistent with other indicators, including payroll estimates by Moody’s Analytics and Automatic Data Processing (ADP).”

And let’s look at the change in context:

The October change doesn’t look odd now, does it?

There are a great many people who have lost the ability to conceptualize, and tend to apply a super-human integrity to government workers who rely on their political affiliations in order to keep their jobs, or to advance in them.


Or, to put it the way the smartest Democrat did:
"Somehow liberals have been unable to acquire from birth what conservatives seem to be endowed with at birth: namely, a healthy skepticism of the powers of government to do good." Daniel Patrick Moynihan



Let's give you a test to see where you stand: is there a 'Deep State'?

 

[edthecynic]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

With 90% confidence between 3.5% and 3.9%
Using the BLS and ILO definitions.

But not according to Tramp.

“Don’t believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment. The number’s probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42%.”
- Donald Jackass Trump

JAN. 11, 2017
TRUMP: There will be a major border tax on these companies that are leaving and getting away with murder. And if our politicians had what it takes, they would have done this years ago. And you’d have millions more workers right now in the United States that are — 96 million really wanting a job and they can’t get. You know that story. The real number — that’s the real number.

 

[pinqy]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

With 90% confidence between 3.5% and 3.9%
Using the BLS and ILO definitions.

"Just one month before the 2012 election, the Obama campaign received a major illegal campaign contribution from the Commerce Department. The Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported on October 5, 2012 that the nation’s unemployment rate suddenly dropped sharply over the prior month, from 8.1% to 7.8%. That supposedly ended the longest period in the nation’s history with unemployment over 8%, except for the Great Depression, which occurred under President Obama.

Just before the election. How convenient."
Did The BLS Give Obama A Major Election 2012 Gift?


Sooo......you believe Trump won the election via collusion with Putin, too?






“Just two years before the Presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report….And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond one employee – ..."
Ibid.




Wise up.

INVESTIGATIVE REPORT
U.S. Census Bureau
Unsubstantiated Allegations that the Philadelphia Regional Office Manipulated the Unemployment Survey Leading up to the 2012 Presidential Election to Cause a Decrease in the National Unemployment Rate

From the executive summary: “Addressing allegations raised in the media, we found no evidence that the national unemployment rate was manipulated by staff in the Philadelphia Regional Office in the months leading up to the 2012 presidential election. To accomplish this, our analysis concluded that it would have taken 78 Census Bureau Field Representatives working together, in a coordinated way, to report each and every unemployed person included in their sample as “employed” or “not in labor force” during September 2012, an effort which likely would have been detected by the Census Bureau’s quality assurance procedures. Moreover, our analysis shows that the drop in the unemployment rate at that time is consistent with other indicators, including payroll estimates by Moody’s Analytics and Automatic Data Processing (ADP).”

And let’s look at the change in context:

The October change doesn’t look odd now, does it?

There are a great many people who have lost the ability to conceptualize, and tend to apply a super-human integrity to government workers who rely on their political affiliations in order to keep their jobs, or to advance in them.

That certainly doesn't describe me.

And i’m Not sure what that has to do with the disproven claim of rigged UE rate. You did notice that the Former Census Bureau worker was fired in 2011 for faking his interviews. And he was also specific that he was never told to go for a specific result.

My personal opinion is that his supervisors, while not specifically telling him to do anything wrong, probably put enough pressure on him that he could convince himself they were. They may even have implied it.

Now, do you have any actual evidence that the rate could be manipulated? Or that anyone in BLS or Census would want to?

Let's give you a test to see where you stand: is there a 'Deep State'?

Yes, but not in the paranoid conspiracy way you think.

 

[rightwinger]

As of today, 172 million Americans are not working

 

[eagle1462010]

As of today, 172 million Americans are not working

Lazy fucks.............tell them to get off the sofa and go to work............

 

[pinqy]

As of today, 172 million Americans are not working

102 million age 16 and older not counting people in prison, nursing homes, mental institutes, etc

 

[rightwinger]

Over fifty percent of Americans are not employed

 

[eagle1462010]

Over fifty percent of Americans are not employed

and why is that................hmmmm.

Again.......get off the sofa and go to work.........chop chop

 

[pinqy]

Over fifty percent of Americans are not employed

and why is that................hmmmm.

Again.......get off the sofa and go to work.........chop chop

Well, of the 102 million I cited, 6 million are looking for work, 24 million are disabled, 28 million are 65 or older and not disabled, 8 million high school students and 6 million full time college students. Add in stay home parents and the independently wealthy....those are the main things going on.

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Crepitus]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

All the conservitards seem to have forgotten that they believed in the U6, which is currently 7.6%.

 

[eagle1462010]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

All the conservitards seem to have forgotten that they believed in the U6, which is currently 7.6%.

We can't get enough people anymore.................if you aren't working now......you aren't looking.

 

[McRocket]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

All the conservitards seem to have forgotten that they believed in the U6, which is currently 7.6%.

Agreed.

But to be fair, I remember - when Obama was POTUS - a fair number of Obamabots on another debate forum I was on telling me how the U-3 was right - no matter how many times I told them it wasn't.

 

[Crepitus]

What is the REAL unemployment rate?



And remember what Trump said on the campaign trail (rightly, IMO):

'Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"'

Donald Trump Calls Unemployment Rate One of the "Biggest Hoaxes in Politics"

All the conservitards seem to have forgotten that they believed in the U6, which is currently 7.6%.

Agreed.

But to be fair, I remember - when Obama was POTUS - a fair number of Obamabots on another debate forum I was on telling me how the U-3 was right - no matter how many times I told them it wasn't.

They are both right, but contain different information.