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Oh and by the way, I blame the amount of scotch that i may or may not have consumed for some minor spelling errors. Just for future reference. kStop trying so hard to prove my point regarding low IQ levels for gun nuts. You mention it in the first sentence of your post. And BTW nowhere is one word and it is lose, not loose.Where did I say anything about anyone wanting to take guns away?No one is trying to take guns away. What is wanted is that average citizens do not own military style weapons. Pro-gun people argue that they need to be able to fight back if the government tries to establish some kind of strong arm dictatorship and take away our rights. First, we know that is never going to happen. This is not a 3rd world country. Second, even it that did happen, the US military would be able to roll right over you all,no matter how much at home weapons you have. It's silly just to contemplate such a scenario.I'm just making the point that no where in the constitution does it say that you can loose your right to bear or keep arms. However it does say that everyone has the right to bear and keep arm and that this right shall not be infringed upon by anybody.He just proves the point that the average IQ for a gun nut is 70.What's wrong? You get one question and then weasel out to start another thread? I thought you might be more than the average coward RWNJ. I guess not.
The first line of the post I quoted.I said someone is trying to take away guns in the first line of my post? Ok well the first line of my post is, "The government already made gun laws more strict. How much more can they get until they start to interfere with our..." That is the first line. Where do I say anything about anyone wanting to take guns away? I think its your IQ that's the issue.Stop trying so hard to prove my point regarding low IQ levels for gun nuts. You mention it in the first sentence of your post. And BTW nowhere is one word and it is lose, not loose.Where did I say anything about anyone wanting to take guns away?No one is trying to take guns away. What is wanted is that average citizens do not own military style weapons. Pro-gun people argue that they need to be able to fight back if the government tries to establish some kind of strong arm dictatorship and take away our rights. First, we know that is never going to happen. This is not a 3rd world country. Second, even it that did happen, the US military would be able to roll right over you all,no matter how much at home weapons you have. It's silly just to contemplate such a scenario.I'm just making the point that no where in the constitution does it say that you can loose your right to bear or keep arms. However it does say that everyone has the right to bear and keep arm and that this right shall not be infringed upon by anybody.He just proves the point that the average IQ for a gun nut is 70.
You post is 100% irony. You describe conservatives to a tee: "a mindless parrot, they will regurgitate insipid drivel" on every single RW talking point.The average libturd is of course a mindless parrot, they will regurgitate insipid drivel about "safety" and keeping guns out of the hands of over medicated loons and criminals.
That is not the priority of those who are actually in power. The sociopaths whom the parrots vote for are determined to disarm the population in order to more easily control it.
That is the objective.
Period.
Uh, news flash: only the government does make the laws. We vote for our representatives, who make the laws. Unless you want to run for office, and well you should if you want direct involvement in making laws, your vote is your participation in making laws. Or do you prefer anarchy?When only government has weapons only government will make laws.
The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
Imposing of martial law, forced socialism and killing of all free and others thinking.
The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
Imposing of martial law, forced socialism and killing of all free and others thinking.
In all fairness to us, Baron, we only intend to kill the paranoids. Unfortunately, that means that you should keep a low profile....
Can you please share which first line of which post that you quoted? And can you please share the first line of the post you quoted? ThanksThe first line of the post I quoted.I said someone is trying to take away guns in the first line of my post? Ok well the first line of my post is, "The government already made gun laws more strict. How much more can they get until they start to interfere with our..." That is the first line. Where do I say anything about anyone wanting to take guns away? I think its your IQ that's the issue.Stop trying so hard to prove my point regarding low IQ levels for gun nuts. You mention it in the first sentence of your post. And BTW nowhere is one word and it is lose, not loose.Where did I say anything about anyone wanting to take guns away?No one is trying to take guns away. What is wanted is that average citizens do not own military style weapons. Pro-gun people argue that they need to be able to fight back if the government tries to establish some kind of strong arm dictatorship and take away our rights. First, we know that is never going to happen. This is not a 3rd world country. Second, even it that did happen, the US military would be able to roll right over you all,no matter how much at home weapons you have. It's silly just to contemplate such a scenario.I'm just making the point that no where in the constitution does it say that you can loose your right to bear or keep arms. However it does say that everyone has the right to bear and keep arm and that this right shall not be infringed upon by anybody.
No I'm talking about this one. I don't know about Arizona laws put here in PA gun laws are pretty strict. And if you didn't know gun laws differ from state to state.Well, now, let's see. Has my state (Arizona) passed stricter guns laws? You now can open carry without a license. You now can concealed carry without a license, or even a class on proficiency (you don't even need to show that you know where the safety switch is). You can buy any firearm from any private person without a background check. There are no limitations on magazine capacity, or bump stocks.
But wait! It is still illegal to own a fully automated weapon without a federal license, or to buy a firearm while under a restraining order (although it would not be illegal to sell a firearm to someone under a restraining order).
The OP must be talking about some other government.
Our society is becoming more sensitive to loss of life and violence. If there is a chance of 1 in million a person will contract food poisoning from a food product, there will be a massive recall. It is estimated that over 25% of the cost of a motor vehicle now goes to make the vehicle safer. In the 1970's a campaign against metal lunchboxes was launched because the lunchbox could be used as a weapon resulting in the change to soft side lunch boxes. Recently a child was sent home from school because she had a lunchbox depicting violence, Wonder Woman fighting the bad guys.The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
No I'm talking about this one. I don't know about Arizona laws put here in PA gun laws are pretty strict. And if you didn't know gun laws differ from state to state.Well, now, let's see. Has my state (Arizona) passed stricter guns laws? You now can open carry without a license. You now can concealed carry without a license, or even a class on proficiency (you don't even need to show that you know where the safety switch is). You can buy any firearm from any private person without a background check. There are no limitations on magazine capacity, or bump stocks.
But wait! It is still illegal to own a fully automated weapon without a federal license, or to buy a firearm while under a restraining order (although it would not be illegal to sell a firearm to someone under a restraining order).
The OP must be talking about some other government.
BTW, Almost half of American citizens are pushing for stricter gun laws.
The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
I heard gas is cheaper too. lolNo I'm talking about this one. I don't know about Arizona laws put here in PA gun laws are pretty strict. And if you didn't know gun laws differ from state to state.Well, now, let's see. Has my state (Arizona) passed stricter guns laws? You now can open carry without a license. You now can concealed carry without a license, or even a class on proficiency (you don't even need to show that you know where the safety switch is). You can buy any firearm from any private person without a background check. There are no limitations on magazine capacity, or bump stocks.
But wait! It is still illegal to own a fully automated weapon without a federal license, or to buy a firearm while under a restraining order (although it would not be illegal to sell a firearm to someone under a restraining order).
The OP must be talking about some other government.
BTW, Almost half of American citizens are pushing for stricter gun laws.
You should jump the border to Ohio. We have fantastic gun laws here. You can carry in bars and stadiums provided the establishment doesn't prohibit it. You can drive with a loaded gun on your passenger seat not even holstered. You can find CCW classes that only takes one day to complete. Our Castle Doctrine extends to your car so if somebody tries to break into your vehicle, it's considered the same as somebody trying to break into your home. They are even working on a Stand Your Ground bill.
Restricting the sale of guns is just part of a trend toward making society safer and less violent. I suspect this trend will continue. The number of gun owners in the country pretty well guarantee that guns will never be banned.
PA has Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. I live in Pittsburgh and there are some dangerous places, and there are a lot of shootings often. Pittsburgh is not a big city.The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
States wh stricter gun laws have less gun crime .
PA has Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. I live in Pittsburgh and there are some dangerous places, and there are a lot of shootings often. Pittsburgh is not a big city.The Government already made the gun laws more strict. How much more strict can they get until they start to interfere with our constitutional rights. I mean it is the 2nd Amendment, obviously at the time the Amendments of The United States Constitution were first developed, the right to keep and bear arms must of been a pretty important belief to the Government officials responsible in creating them.
The 2nd Amendment declares;
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Shall not be infringed means that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution gives all citizens of the United States the irrevocable right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and this right shall NOT be infringed upon by ANYBODY. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms/guns.
Infringe- actively break terms of a law or agreement.
So what is the real reason behind the Government wanting to make stricter gun laws? I hope they know that its not going to stop the violence. If someone wants a gun they can get one off the streets cheaper than a gun store. Strict gun laws aren't preventing criminals or potential criminals from obtaining any firearm. All its doing is preventing innocent citizens from protecting themselves from criminals.
Also restricting places that you can carry a gun on your person isn't doing anything. The law abiding citizen will follow it when the criminal will still carry it.
All its really doing is making innocent citizens more vulnerable to be a victim or target for a criminal.
If gun laws get to strict to the point no one can carry a gun anywhere, strict where you can not purchase a gun, or a longer wait or process, or stricter requirements to legally own a firearm, its just preventing a law abiding citizen to be able to protect their life in a violent situation. It would be like opening season for fishing. Streams are fully stocked with innocent fish with no way to protect themselves from being caught by a fishermen. Criminals will know that there will be less innocent law abiding citizens that have protection on their person, so they will be an easier victim to a crime.
To me, stricter gun laws wont prevent crime it will increase crime.
States wh stricter gun laws have less gun crime .
Interactive homicide map, Allegheny County, Pa.
Actually the 2nd Amendment gives All citizens of the U.S. the irrevocable(not able to be changed, reversed, or recovered; final) right to obtain, keep and bear arms, and NOBODY can hinder, obstruct, impede, thwart, violate, or prevent ones 2nd Amendment. It means United States citizens have a God given right to keep and bear arms.
So honestly, according to the 2nd Amendment can the Government really prevent and/or deny or take the 2nd Amendment right away from convicts? No where does it say anything about loosing that right? It says that EVERYONE has that right and NOBODY can say otherwise.
376 murders in 10 months between two cities in 1 state with strict gun laws? That is more than 1 murder a day in just two 2 cities in pa, Stricter gun laws is not going to stop gun violence. Period.Philadelphia has 285 murders to date.
Crime Maps & Stats | Philadelphia Police Department
A state with 376 murders in 10 months with strict gun laws? That is more than 1 murder a day in just 2 cities of PA.
