What is the Jewish View of Jesus?

[jwoodie]

I understand that Jesus is not recognized as the Messiah but beyond that, what? As a Jewish Rabbi, are his teachings considered heretical? Is he considered a fraud? I understand the historical danger of addressing this issue, but even today I have been unable to get a reading on this. Is anyone able to enlighten me?

 

[Gadawg73]

He is not their messiah. Jews do not have the concept of salvation. They do not believe in folks being born as sinners. Folks sin and can repent those sins and have them forgiven most of the time.
Makes a hell lot more sense than Christianity.
Not all ancient Jewish texts mention Jesus. Translations of the Talmud took to the 1200s to identify Jesus in there.
This is what started the persecution of the Jews as Christians just could not have another belief system of who Jesus was and what he represented.

 

[onecut39]

He is not their messiah. Jews do not have the concept of salvation. They do not believe in folks being born as sinners. Folks sin and can repent those sins and have them forgiven most of the time.
Makes a hell lot more sense than Christianity.
Not all ancient Jewish texts mention Jesus. Translations of the Talmud took to the 1200s to identify Jesus in there.
This is what started the persecution of the Jews as Christians just could not have another belief system of who Jesus was and what he represented.

The Jews view Jesus the same way as Muslims do, not as messiah but as a prophet.

 

[Gadawg73]

He is not their messiah. Jews do not have the concept of salvation. They do not believe in folks being born as sinners. Folks sin and can repent those sins and have them forgiven most of the time.
Makes a hell lot more sense than Christianity.
Not all ancient Jewish texts mention Jesus. Translations of the Talmud took to the 1200s to identify Jesus in there.
This is what started the persecution of the Jews as Christians just could not have another belief system of who Jesus was and what he represented.

The Jews view Jesus the same way as Muslims do, not as messiah but as a prophet.

Similar but being that Jesus was a Jew a little differently. Muslim religion did not start until 600 years after Jesus' death.

 

[barry1960]

He is not their messiah. Jews do not have the concept of salvation. They do not believe in folks being born as sinners. Folks sin and can repent those sins and have them forgiven most of the time.
Makes a hell lot more sense than Christianity.
Not all ancient Jewish texts mention Jesus. Translations of the Talmud took to the 1200s to identify Jesus in there.
This is what started the persecution of the Jews as Christians just could not have another belief system of who Jesus was and what he represented.

The Jews view Jesus the same way as Muslims do, not as messiah but as a prophet.

The Jews do not believe Jesus is the Messiah. Since Jesus claimed to be the Messiah and to be God, the Jews would consider Jesus to be a false prophet and a blasphemer. They would not consider Jesus death on the cross as an act of sacrifice, but rather an act of justice. Remember the Jewish leaders of the day plotted to have him tried and executed, and carried this out under the approval of their Roman occupiers.

 

[Gadawg73]

He is not their messiah. Jews do not have the concept of salvation. They do not believe in folks being born as sinners. Folks sin and can repent those sins and have them forgiven most of the time.
Makes a hell lot more sense than Christianity.
Not all ancient Jewish texts mention Jesus. Translations of the Talmud took to the 1200s to identify Jesus in there.
This is what started the persecution of the Jews as Christians just could not have another belief system of who Jesus was and what he represented.

The Jews view Jesus the same way as Muslims do, not as messiah but as a prophet.

The Jews do not believe Jesus is the Messiah. Since Jesus claimed to be the Messiah and to be God, the Jews would consider Jesus to be a false prophet and a blasphemer. They would not consider Jesus death on the cross as an act of sacrifice, but rather an act of justice. Remember the Jewish leaders of the day plotted to have him tried and executed, and carried this out under the approval of their Roman occupiers.

No one knows if they wanted him executed but they did nothing to stop it. Jesus offered no defense at his "trial" so his death was a knowing and willing sacrifice. Before the cross Jerusalem was packed with Jews for Passover. Pilate and the Jewish rabbis wanted no trouble then and Pilate had approved Caiphas as the high priest that season. The Jewish leaders saw Jesus as a threat. Jesus did not call himself the messiah at first but the leaders saw the crowds that came, Mark 11:18, knew that they believed he was a great teacher and would be a threat to Jewish authority.
Jesus was the rebel of his times. He wanted no part of Jewish authority and their backward rules and regulations. Love thy neighbor is what Jesus preached, no exceptions.

 

[Gadawg73]

Similar to many Christians today. Dare interpret the Old Testament and the old Jewish laws as not what Jesus stood for and one is labeled not Christian.
Same as with Jesus as the Jewish leaders of that day could not have their know it all authority questioned.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Links? Every answer has made the issue more confusing.

 

[Moonglow]

The Jews think of Jesus as a good magician.

 

[longknife]

This is an interesting piece to read - be sure to click on all the links to get the full story.

False Messiahs

List of messiah claimants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gadawg73]

He is not their messiah. Jews do not have the concept of salvation. They do not believe in folks being born as sinners. Folks sin and can repent those sins and have them forgiven most of the time.
Makes a hell lot more sense than Christianity.
Not all ancient Jewish texts mention Jesus. Translations of the Talmud took to the 1200s to identify Jesus in there.
This is what started the persecution of the Jews as Christians just could not have another belief system of who Jesus was and what he represented.

The Jews view Jesus the same way as Muslims do, not as messiah but as a prophet.

Where did I ever claim Jews saw Jesus as the messiah?

The belief in Jesus is actually a requirement for Muslims.
Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim rejecting any Trinitarian argument.

Quite different than what Jews believed and now believe Jesus was.

 

[Gadawg73]

Links? Every answer has made the issue more confusing.

Links for religious interpretations?
I have numerous links that confirm without any doubt that Elvis is alive and well working night shift at Waffle House in Hahira, Ga.

 

[eflatminor]

I understand that Jesus is not recognized as the Messiah but beyond that, what? As a Jewish Rabbi, are his teachings considered heretical? Is he considered a fraud? I understand the historical danger of addressing this issue, but even today I have been unable to get a reading on this. Is anyone able to enlighten me?

I recommend this book on the subject, which I found an interesting read:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Rabbi-Jesus-Biography-Bruce-Chilton/dp/0385497938/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356375699&sr=1-1&keywords=the+rabbi+jesus]Rabbi Jesus: An Intimate Biography: Bruce Chilton: 9780385497930: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

 

[Gadawg73]

I understand that Jesus is not recognized as the Messiah but beyond that, what? As a Jewish Rabbi, are his teachings considered heretical? Is he considered a fraud? I understand the historical danger of addressing this issue, but even today I have been unable to get a reading on this. Is anyone able to enlighten me?

I recommend this book on the subject, which I found an interesting read:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Rabbi-Jesus-Biography-Bruce-Chilton/dp/0385497938/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356375699&sr=1-1&keywords=the+rabbi+jesus]Rabbi Jesus: An Intimate Biography: Bruce Chilton: 9780385497930: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

Very good read but Jesus was not the typical rabbi of his day.
Love thy neighbor and thou shall not judge were not part of old Jewish laws.

 

[eflatminor]

I understand that Jesus is not recognized as the Messiah but beyond that, what? As a Jewish Rabbi, are his teachings considered heretical? Is he considered a fraud? I understand the historical danger of addressing this issue, but even today I have been unable to get a reading on this. Is anyone able to enlighten me?

I recommend this book on the subject, which I found an interesting read:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Rabbi-Jesus-Biography-Bruce-Chilton/dp/0385497938/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356375699&sr=1-1&keywords=the+rabbi+jesus]Rabbi Jesus: An Intimate Biography: Bruce Chilton: 9780385497930: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

Very good read but Jesus was not the typical rabbi of his day.
Love thy neighbor and thou shall not judge were not part of old Jewish laws.

That is my understanding as well.

 

[Gadawg73]

I recommend this book on the subject, which I found an interesting read:

Rabbi Jesus: An Intimate Biography: Bruce Chilton: 9780385497930: Amazon.com: Books

Very good read but Jesus was not the typical rabbi of his day.
Love thy neighbor and thou shall not judge were not part of old Jewish laws.

That is my understanding as well.

Good post as I am buying that book.

 

[squinch]

I recommend this book on the subject, which I found an interesting read:

Rabbi Jesus: An Intimate Biography: Bruce Chilton: 9780385497930: Amazon.com: Books

Very good read but Jesus was not the typical rabbi of his day.
Love thy neighbor and thou shall not judge were not part of old Jewish laws.

That is my understanding as well.

The Doobies believe that Jesus is just alright.

 

[Gadawg73]

Very good read but Jesus was not the typical rabbi of his day.
Love thy neighbor and thou shall not judge were not part of old Jewish laws.

That is my understanding as well.

The Doobies believe that Jesus is just alright.

Yes that is what the Bros said.
Dig your name as I had a coach with Coke bottle thick glasses in the late 60s and early 70s we nick named Squinch.

 

[Aristotle]

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Judaism's view of the Messiah differs substantially from the Christian idea of the Messiah. In the Jewish account, the Messiah's task is to bring in the Messianic age, a one-time event, and a presumed messiah who is killed before completing the task (i.e., compelling all of Israel to walk in the way of Torah, repairing the breaches in observance, fighting the wars of God, building the Temple in its place, gathering in the dispersed exiles of Israel) is not the Messiah. Maimonides states, "But if he did not succeed in all this or was killed, he is definitely not the Moshiach promised in the Torah... and God only appointed him in order to test the masses."[12]

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[jwoodie]

I began this thread AFTER reading Wikipedia.