CDZ What is the difference between a Machine Gun and an AR-15?

OK I get it, you need a bump stock to get the multiple shots per second out of an AR-15. But even an average shooter could fire at a rate of 2 rounds per second. So without a bump stock or other mod, the AR-15 is not a machine gun per the 1934 definition. But it also isn't much of a stretch to say that the AR-15 meets the "intent" of a machine gun which is to throw lots of lead in the air in a short period of time, yes?


What is your angle here?

The AR-15 is no different from any other semi-automatic rifle, pistol or shotgun....no different in any way. It is not a weapon of war, it has never been used by the military.... it is a civilian and police rifle.
 
There is a law called the National Firearms Act that was implemented in 1934 that "regulates" (read that mega-taxed) machine guns. It was brought into law basically as a response to the St. Valentine's Day Massacre where 7 guys were executed by 4 guys with machine guns. So not being a gun guy, I would like to know what the difference is between the original definition of a machine gun which means any weapon that can be fired more than once with a single trigger pull, at least the way I understand it. This to me begs the question why an AR-15 or equivalent isn't a machine gun and why isn't it heavily regulated the way machine guns are?

I'm not at all a gun control advocate, but if we already have a law that's been on the books for 90 years that already taxes the crap out of machine guns, wouldn't that same tax and regulation extend to modern semi-automatic weapons?
AR-15s are single pull single shot semi-auto assault riffles... unless of course you modify with something like a bump stock. Machine guns are fully automatic
I still don't get it? :(

So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

Can you fire a lot of shots in one round? Holy crap... and come to think of it, what the heck is a "round"? How does that work? And what the heck is a "magazine"? :( I know less than a kindergartner, so please be gentle with this dummy!

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle? Cuz I read an article once by a doctor who works the ER and gunshot wounds and the doc said that these semi automatic Rifles tear the victim apart, and there are slim to no chance of survival if they are hit in an organ by them but if just a regular gun, the Docs have a much better chance of saving the victim even with a direct hit to an organ....???

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle?

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle...with a small bullet compared to other rifles. That Doctor is lying. Any rifle or shotgun hit is going to do lots of damage.....

The AR-15 is a small bullet compared to a 30.06.....

The AR-15 is not a weapon of war or an "Assault Rifle." It is a civilian and police rifle....
it is just as deadly as a weapon of war
.....see my previous posts= it can be just as deadly--if not MORE--than fully auto/3 round burst rifles
 
There is a law called the National Firearms Act that was implemented in 1934 that "regulates" (read that mega-taxed) machine guns. It was brought into law basically as a response to the St. Valentine's Day Massacre where 7 guys were executed by 4 guys with machine guns. So not being a gun guy, I would like to know what the difference is between the original definition of a machine gun which means any weapon that can be fired more than once with a single trigger pull, at least the way I understand it. This to me begs the question why an AR-15 or equivalent isn't a machine gun and why isn't it heavily regulated the way machine guns are?

I'm not at all a gun control advocate, but if we already have a law that's been on the books for 90 years that already taxes the crap out of machine guns, wouldn't that same tax and regulation extend to modern semi-automatic weapons?
Current Second Amendment jurisprudence holds that an M 16 and AR 15 are similar enough to render both weapons considered to be dangerous and unusual, their possession not entitled to Constitutional protections.

That the former is select fire and the latter semi-auto only is legally irrelevant.

I disagree with this interpretation, but my subjective opinion is likewise legally irrelevant.


No. You are lying...... current 2nd Amendment Supreme Court decisions state, by name....the AR-15 is a protected rifle......it is not unusual or dangerous in any way that any other gun is dangerous or unusual....

You are just lying......


https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-133_7l48.pdf

That analysis misreads Heller. The question under Heller is not whether citizens have adequate alternatives available for self-defense.

Rather, Heller asks whether the law bans types of firearms commonly used for a lawful purpose—regardless of whether alternatives exist. 554 U. S., at 627–629. And Heller draws a distinction between such firearms and weapons specially adapted to unlawful uses and not in common use, such as sawed-off shotguns. Id., at 624–625.

The City’s ban is thus highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes.

Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles. See 784 F. 3d, at 415, n. 3. The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. See ibid. Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons. See McDonald, 561 U. S., at 767–768; Heller, supra, at 628–629.
 
There is a law called the National Firearms Act that was implemented in 1934 that "regulates" (read that mega-taxed) machine guns. It was brought into law basically as a response to the St. Valentine's Day Massacre where 7 guys were executed by 4 guys with machine guns. So not being a gun guy, I would like to know what the difference is between the original definition of a machine gun which means any weapon that can be fired more than once with a single trigger pull, at least the way I understand it. This to me begs the question why an AR-15 or equivalent isn't a machine gun and why isn't it heavily regulated the way machine guns are?

I'm not at all a gun control advocate, but if we already have a law that's been on the books for 90 years that already taxes the crap out of machine guns, wouldn't that same tax and regulation extend to modern semi-automatic weapons?
AR-15s are single pull single shot semi-auto assault riffles... unless of course you modify with something like a bump stock. Machine guns are fully automatic
I still don't get it? :(

So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

Can you fire a lot of shots in one round? Holy crap... and come to think of it, what the heck is a "round"? How does that work? And what the heck is a "magazine"? :( I know less than a kindergartner, so please be gentle with this dummy!

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle? Cuz I read an article once by a doctor who works the ER and gunshot wounds and the doc said that these semi automatic Rifles tear the victim apart, and there are slim to no chance of survival if they are hit in an organ by them but if just a regular gun, the Docs have a much better chance of saving the victim even with a direct hit to an organ....???

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle?

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle...with a small bullet compared to other rifles. That Doctor is lying. Any rifle or shotgun hit is going to do lots of damage.....

The AR-15 is a small bullet compared to a 30.06.....

The AR-15 is not a weapon of war or an "Assault Rifle." It is a civilian and police rifle....
it is just as deadly as a weapon of war
.....see my previous posts= it can be just as deadly--if not MORE--than fully auto/3 round burst rifles


And a .22 caliber pistol can be just as deadly, if not more when used according to its strengths....
 
3 round burst was designed into the M16A2s to cut down wastage of ammo/etc
. The reason for this replacement was the massive waste of ammunition and very poor performance of soldiers who fired their rifles in fully automatic mode during the Vietnam War.
Burst mode (weapons) - Wikipedia
....even with 3 round burst, it's hard to put all 3 rounds on a man sized target at combat distances ...it is more for keeping their heads down/fire superiority/etc


No...they went to 3 round burst because infantrymen would get excited and burn through their entire magazine with one pull of the trigger....they moved to a 3 round burst to reduce ammo waste....
 
There is a law called the National Firearms Act that was implemented in 1934 that "regulates" (read that mega-taxed) machine guns. It was brought into law basically as a response to the St. Valentine's Day Massacre where 7 guys were executed by 4 guys with machine guns. So not being a gun guy, I would like to know what the difference is between the original definition of a machine gun which means any weapon that can be fired more than once with a single trigger pull, at least the way I understand it. This to me begs the question why an AR-15 or equivalent isn't a machine gun and why isn't it heavily regulated the way machine guns are?

I'm not at all a gun control advocate, but if we already have a law that's been on the books for 90 years that already taxes the crap out of machine guns, wouldn't that same tax and regulation extend to modern semi-automatic weapons?
AR-15s are single pull single shot semi-auto assault riffles... unless of course you modify with something like a bump stock. Machine guns are fully automatic
I still don't get it? :(

So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

Can you fire a lot of shots in one round? Holy crap... and come to think of it, what the heck is a "round"? How does that work? And what the heck is a "magazine"? :( I know less than a kindergartner, so please be gentle with this dummy!

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle? Cuz I read an article once by a doctor who works the ER and gunshot wounds and the doc said that these semi automatic Rifles tear the victim apart, and there are slim to no chance of survival if they are hit in an organ by them but if just a regular gun, the Docs have a much better chance of saving the victim even with a direct hit to an organ....???

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle?

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle...with a small bullet compared to other rifles. That Doctor is lying. Any rifle or shotgun hit is going to do lots of damage.....

The AR-15 is a small bullet compared to a 30.06.....

The AR-15 is not a weapon of war or an "Assault Rifle." It is a civilian and police rifle....
it is just as deadly as a weapon of war
.....see my previous posts= it can be just as deadly--if not MORE--than fully auto/3 round burst rifles


And a .22 caliber pistol can be just as deadly, if not more when used according to its strengths....
....so you agree, the semi auto AR 15 is just as deadly-if not more--than a military M16A1/A2/etc?
 
Thank you kind gentlemen! You have helped a great deal! Now I am going to you tube and search for tutorials, so I can put everything I was told together, in a picture/video...

Now back to Marathon Mike's question...

Is the intent of the law banning Machine Guns, the same that could be applied to AR15's or AK47's etc?


No. AR-15s and the Civilian AK-47 are semi-automatic rifles, no different from any other semi-automatic civilian rifle. They operate the same as any semi-automatic pistol or shotgun.
 
3 round burst was designed into the M16A2s to cut down wastage of ammo/etc
. The reason for this replacement was the massive waste of ammunition and very poor performance of soldiers who fired their rifles in fully automatic mode during the Vietnam War.
Burst mode (weapons) - Wikipedia
....even with 3 round burst, it's hard to put all 3 rounds on a man sized target at combat distances ...it is more for keeping their heads down/fire superiority/etc


No...they went to 3 round burst because infantrymen would get excited and burn through their entire magazine with one pull of the trigger....they moved to a 3 round burst to reduce ammo waste....
gee --you just stated exactly what I stated!!!
...no what?
 
AR-15s are single pull single shot semi-auto assault riffles... unless of course you modify with something like a bump stock. Machine guns are fully automatic
I still don't get it? :(

So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

Can you fire a lot of shots in one round? Holy crap... and come to think of it, what the heck is a "round"? How does that work? And what the heck is a "magazine"? :( I know less than a kindergartner, so please be gentle with this dummy!

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle? Cuz I read an article once by a doctor who works the ER and gunshot wounds and the doc said that these semi automatic Rifles tear the victim apart, and there are slim to no chance of survival if they are hit in an organ by them but if just a regular gun, the Docs have a much better chance of saving the victim even with a direct hit to an organ....???

And what is the power of the bullets out of an AR15 vs just a rifle?

The AR-15 is a civilian rifle...with a small bullet compared to other rifles. That Doctor is lying. Any rifle or shotgun hit is going to do lots of damage.....

The AR-15 is a small bullet compared to a 30.06.....

The AR-15 is not a weapon of war or an "Assault Rifle." It is a civilian and police rifle....
it is just as deadly as a weapon of war
.....see my previous posts= it can be just as deadly--if not MORE--than fully auto/3 round burst rifles


And a .22 caliber pistol can be just as deadly, if not more when used according to its strengths....
....so you agree, the semi auto AR 15 is just as deadly-if not more--than a military M16A1/A2/etc?

If you get shot with an AR-15 you can die...depending on wear you are hit, the same as any gun.

It is not more or less deadly than any other rifle, pistol or shotgun..
 
3 round burst was designed into the M16A2s to cut down wastage of ammo/etc
. The reason for this replacement was the massive waste of ammunition and very poor performance of soldiers who fired their rifles in fully automatic mode during the Vietnam War.
Burst mode (weapons) - Wikipedia
....even with 3 round burst, it's hard to put all 3 rounds on a man sized target at combat distances ...it is more for keeping their heads down/fire superiority/etc


No...they went to 3 round burst because infantrymen would get excited and burn through their entire magazine with one pull of the trigger....they moved to a 3 round burst to reduce ammo waste....
gee --you just stated exactly what I stated!!!
...no what?


Wrong...... I pointed out it was about wasting ammo by emptying a magazine.
 
Thank you kind gentlemen! You have helped a great deal! Now I am going to you tube and search for tutorials, so I can put everything I was told together, in a picture/video...

Now back to Marathon Mike's question...

Is the intent of the law banning Machine Guns, the same that could be applied to AR15's or AK47's etc?

No, because the NFA of 1934 did not ban machine guns. It applied a tax to the sale. $200 at the time was a massive expense.

It also required registration, a lengthy back ground check, and (correct me if I'm wrong) finger printing and photographs for ID.
Yes, I read it was heavily regulated... and also read, that not a single murder with any machine gun, after the regulation.... then again, who knows how many actual murders there were with machine guns prior to that new law.... I doubt that there were many... but honestly do not know?


Criminals tend not to use full size rifles, especially today.....they need to be able to hide their guns under car seats or their girlfriends purses....back in the early days with Bonnie and Clyde, the passenger compartments of cars were bigger, and they stole military weapons, to shoot the police......those old cars made it feasible to hide a Browning Automatic Rifle, Clydes favorite, in a way you can't do today...
 
So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

It's not that hard, once you cleanse your brain of the lies and confusion that you have been fed by the mainstream media.

With regard to firearms…
  • “Automatic” or “Fully-Automatic” means that as long as you hold the trigger, and as long as there is a supply of ammunition being fed into the gun, the gun will keep firing repeatedly. By definition, a machine gun is fully-automatic.
  • “Semi-Automatic” — When you pull the trigger, the gun fires one shot, then uses some of the energy from that shot to eject the spent ground, chamber a new round, and set it up for the next shot. This is similar to how most fully-automatic guns work, with the difference being that it does not actually fire that next shot until you release the trigger, and pull it again. You get only one shot for each pull of the trigger.

Some handguns are described as “Automatic”, but are, in fact, semi-automatic.

True assault rifles are capable of operating in at least two different modes—semi-automatic and either fully-automatic or burst-fire.

The term “assault weapon” is a fraud, concocted to confuse the public into thinking that weapons so described are comparable to fully-automatic weapons. The fraudulent anti-Second-Amendment Violence Policy Center even has a page on its web site admitting to the deception.

Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.

In addition to the automatic modes described above, there are a few other categories.…

  • Repeater — Like the automatic and semi-automatics, a repeater has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. But a separate action has to be carried out between shots, to eject the spent round and chamber another one, to set up for the next shot. Think of a pump-action shotgun, for example,or a lever-action rifle.
  • Single-shot — There is no magazine. You can only load one round into the gun at a time. Once you fire that round, you need to manually remove the spent shell, and load a new round into it before you can fire again. The most recognizable, albeit imperfect, example that I can think of is a double-barrelled shotgun, which can be thought of as two single-shot shotguns in one unit. My wife has a single-shot shotgun, which would be a better example,if you can properly imagine it—try to visualize half of a double-barrel shotgun, and if you visualize that correctly, you'll know what I am talking about.

I think revolvers are considered to be outside of the above categories. A single-action revolver, you have to manually cock the hammer between shots, that action also turning the cylinder to put the next round into position. With a double-action revolver, pulling the trigger causes the hammer to be set back, and the cylinder to be turned, so that no other action is required on the part of the operator. Functionally, a double-action revolver is like a semi-automatic gun, though they are not considered to be semi-automatic. I'm not certain why they are not considered semi-automatic, but I suspect that understood definitions of automatic and semi-automatic assume that the energy to operate the action comes from the shot being fired, rather than from the operator's finger on the trigger.
....per my many other posts--semi auto can be just as deadly--if not more--than fully automatic = the semi auto is worse

The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
 
3 round burst was designed into the M16A2s to cut down wastage of ammo/etc
. The reason for this replacement was the massive waste of ammunition and very poor performance of soldiers who fired their rifles in fully automatic mode during the Vietnam War.
Burst mode (weapons) - Wikipedia
....even with 3 round burst, it's hard to put all 3 rounds on a man sized target at combat distances ...it is more for keeping their heads down/fire superiority/etc


No...they went to 3 round burst because infantrymen would get excited and burn through their entire magazine with one pull of the trigger....they moved to a 3 round burst to reduce ammo waste....
gee --you just stated exactly what I stated!!!
...no what?


Wrong...... I pointed out it was about wasting ammo by emptying a magazine.
you fucking dumbass--read THIS
post # 23 here
CDZ - What is the difference between a Machine Gun and an AR-15?

3 round burst was designed into the M16A2s to cut down wastage of ammo/etc
Vietnam War.
Burst mode (weapons) - Wikipedia
....even with 3 round burst, it's hard to put all 3 rounds on a man sized target at combat distances ...it is more for keeping their heads down/fire superiority/etc
 
So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

It's not that hard, once you cleanse your brain of the lies and confusion that you have been fed by the mainstream media.

With regard to firearms…
  • “Automatic” or “Fully-Automatic” means that as long as you hold the trigger, and as long as there is a supply of ammunition being fed into the gun, the gun will keep firing repeatedly. By definition, a machine gun is fully-automatic.
  • “Semi-Automatic” — When you pull the trigger, the gun fires one shot, then uses some of the energy from that shot to eject the spent ground, chamber a new round, and set it up for the next shot. This is similar to how most fully-automatic guns work, with the difference being that it does not actually fire that next shot until you release the trigger, and pull it again. You get only one shot for each pull of the trigger.

Some handguns are described as “Automatic”, but are, in fact, semi-automatic.

True assault rifles are capable of operating in at least two different modes—semi-automatic and either fully-automatic or burst-fire.

The term “assault weapon” is a fraud, concocted to confuse the public into thinking that weapons so described are comparable to fully-automatic weapons. The fraudulent anti-Second-Amendment Violence Policy Center even has a page on its web site admitting to the deception.

Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.

In addition to the automatic modes described above, there are a few other categories.…

  • Repeater — Like the automatic and semi-automatics, a repeater has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. But a separate action has to be carried out between shots, to eject the spent round and chamber another one, to set up for the next shot. Think of a pump-action shotgun, for example,or a lever-action rifle.
  • Single-shot — There is no magazine. You can only load one round into the gun at a time. Once you fire that round, you need to manually remove the spent shell, and load a new round into it before you can fire again. The most recognizable, albeit imperfect, example that I can think of is a double-barrelled shotgun, which can be thought of as two single-shot shotguns in one unit. My wife has a single-shot shotgun, which would be a better example,if you can properly imagine it—try to visualize half of a double-barrel shotgun, and if you visualize that correctly, you'll know what I am talking about.

I think revolvers are considered to be outside of the above categories. A single-action revolver, you have to manually cock the hammer between shots, that action also turning the cylinder to put the next round into position. With a double-action revolver, pulling the trigger causes the hammer to be set back, and the cylinder to be turned, so that no other action is required on the part of the operator. Functionally, a double-action revolver is like a semi-automatic gun, though they are not considered to be semi-automatic. I'm not certain why they are not considered semi-automatic, but I suspect that understood definitions of automatic and semi-automatic assume that the energy to operate the action comes from the shot being fired, rather than from the operator's finger on the trigger.
....per my many other posts--semi auto can be just as deadly--if not more--than fully automatic = the semi auto is worse

The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
even in a Walmart -you will get MORE assured kills with semi auto faster than with auto
undeniable
 
So for each and every shot, they have to pull the trigger? What makes it semi-automatic then?

It's not that hard, once you cleanse your brain of the lies and confusion that you have been fed by the mainstream media.

With regard to firearms…
  • “Automatic” or “Fully-Automatic” means that as long as you hold the trigger, and as long as there is a supply of ammunition being fed into the gun, the gun will keep firing repeatedly. By definition, a machine gun is fully-automatic.
  • “Semi-Automatic” — When you pull the trigger, the gun fires one shot, then uses some of the energy from that shot to eject the spent ground, chamber a new round, and set it up for the next shot. This is similar to how most fully-automatic guns work, with the difference being that it does not actually fire that next shot until you release the trigger, and pull it again. You get only one shot for each pull of the trigger.

Some handguns are described as “Automatic”, but are, in fact, semi-automatic.

True assault rifles are capable of operating in at least two different modes—semi-automatic and either fully-automatic or burst-fire.

The term “assault weapon” is a fraud, concocted to confuse the public into thinking that weapons so described are comparable to fully-automatic weapons. The fraudulent anti-Second-Amendment Violence Policy Center even has a page on its web site admitting to the deception.

Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.

In addition to the automatic modes described above, there are a few other categories.…

  • Repeater — Like the automatic and semi-automatics, a repeater has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. But a separate action has to be carried out between shots, to eject the spent round and chamber another one, to set up for the next shot. Think of a pump-action shotgun, for example,or a lever-action rifle.
  • Single-shot — There is no magazine. You can only load one round into the gun at a time. Once you fire that round, you need to manually remove the spent shell, and load a new round into it before you can fire again. The most recognizable, albeit imperfect, example that I can think of is a double-barrelled shotgun, which can be thought of as two single-shot shotguns in one unit. My wife has a single-shot shotgun, which would be a better example,if you can properly imagine it—try to visualize half of a double-barrel shotgun, and if you visualize that correctly, you'll know what I am talking about.

I think revolvers are considered to be outside of the above categories. A single-action revolver, you have to manually cock the hammer between shots, that action also turning the cylinder to put the next round into position. With a double-action revolver, pulling the trigger causes the hammer to be set back, and the cylinder to be turned, so that no other action is required on the part of the operator. Functionally, a double-action revolver is like a semi-automatic gun, though they are not considered to be semi-automatic. I'm not certain why they are not considered semi-automatic, but I suspect that understood definitions of automatic and semi-automatic assume that the energy to operate the action comes from the shot being fired, rather than from the operator's finger on the trigger.
....per my many other posts--semi auto can be just as deadly--if not more--than fully automatic = the semi auto is worse

The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
hahahhahahahahahaha
you fked up AGAIN--BIG time
even the NRA disagrees with you
Rifles are easier to shoot accurately because . . . they’re heavy.
jesus fk christ-everyone knows rifles are more accurate

Rifle vs. Pistol Shooting: Six Fun Facts
 
It's not that hard, once you cleanse your brain of the lies and confusion that you have been fed by the mainstream media.

With regard to firearms…
  • “Automatic” or “Fully-Automatic” means that as long as you hold the trigger, and as long as there is a supply of ammunition being fed into the gun, the gun will keep firing repeatedly. By definition, a machine gun is fully-automatic.
  • “Semi-Automatic” — When you pull the trigger, the gun fires one shot, then uses some of the energy from that shot to eject the spent ground, chamber a new round, and set it up for the next shot. This is similar to how most fully-automatic guns work, with the difference being that it does not actually fire that next shot until you release the trigger, and pull it again. You get only one shot for each pull of the trigger.

Some handguns are described as “Automatic”, but are, in fact, semi-automatic.

True assault rifles are capable of operating in at least two different modes—semi-automatic and either fully-automatic or burst-fire.

The term “assault weapon” is a fraud, concocted to confuse the public into thinking that weapons so described are comparable to fully-automatic weapons. The fraudulent anti-Second-Amendment Violence Policy Center even has a page on its web site admitting to the deception.

Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.

In addition to the automatic modes described above, there are a few other categories.…

  • Repeater — Like the automatic and semi-automatics, a repeater has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. But a separate action has to be carried out between shots, to eject the spent round and chamber another one, to set up for the next shot. Think of a pump-action shotgun, for example,or a lever-action rifle.
  • Single-shot — There is no magazine. You can only load one round into the gun at a time. Once you fire that round, you need to manually remove the spent shell, and load a new round into it before you can fire again. The most recognizable, albeit imperfect, example that I can think of is a double-barrelled shotgun, which can be thought of as two single-shot shotguns in one unit. My wife has a single-shot shotgun, which would be a better example,if you can properly imagine it—try to visualize half of a double-barrel shotgun, and if you visualize that correctly, you'll know what I am talking about.

I think revolvers are considered to be outside of the above categories. A single-action revolver, you have to manually cock the hammer between shots, that action also turning the cylinder to put the next round into position. With a double-action revolver, pulling the trigger causes the hammer to be set back, and the cylinder to be turned, so that no other action is required on the part of the operator. Functionally, a double-action revolver is like a semi-automatic gun, though they are not considered to be semi-automatic. I'm not certain why they are not considered semi-automatic, but I suspect that understood definitions of automatic and semi-automatic assume that the energy to operate the action comes from the shot being fired, rather than from the operator's finger on the trigger.
....per my many other posts--semi auto can be just as deadly--if not more--than fully automatic = the semi auto is worse

The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
even in a Walmart -you will get MORE assured kills with semi auto faster than with auto
undeniable


Wrong...... it depends on the target, and the time you have to shoot people.

At Gilroy....semi-auto rifle 3 killed.

At Dayton, democrat, socialist, antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter... 9 killed, semi- auto rifle.

Virginia Tech.... 32 dead, 2 pistols.

Luby's cafe....24 dead, 2 pistols.

Russia Polytechnic shooting....tube fed, 5 shot, pump action shotgun.....20 killed 40 wounded.

Nice, France, muslim terrorist, rental truck, 86 killed, 435 wounded.....

So no, you are just wrong. The entire determinant is time in the gun free zone before someone starts to shoot back.
 
....per my many other posts--semi auto can be just as deadly--if not more--than fully automatic = the semi auto is worse

The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
even in a Walmart -you will get MORE assured kills with semi auto faster than with auto
undeniable


Wrong...... it depends on the target, and the time you have to shoot people.

At Gilroy....semi-auto rifle 3 killed.

At Dayton, democrat, socialist, antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter... 9 killed, semi- auto rifle.

Russia Polytechnic shooting....tube fed, 5 shot, pump action shotgun.....20 killed 40 wounded.

Nice, France, muslim terrorist, rental truck, 86 killed, 435 wounded.....

So no, you are just wrong. The entire determinant is time in the gun free zone before someone starts to shoot back.
same link:
Rifles are easier to shoot accurately because . . . they have a longer sight radius.
 
It's not that hard, once you cleanse your brain of the lies and confusion that you have been fed by the mainstream media.

With regard to firearms…
  • “Automatic” or “Fully-Automatic” means that as long as you hold the trigger, and as long as there is a supply of ammunition being fed into the gun, the gun will keep firing repeatedly. By definition, a machine gun is fully-automatic.
  • “Semi-Automatic” — When you pull the trigger, the gun fires one shot, then uses some of the energy from that shot to eject the spent ground, chamber a new round, and set it up for the next shot. This is similar to how most fully-automatic guns work, with the difference being that it does not actually fire that next shot until you release the trigger, and pull it again. You get only one shot for each pull of the trigger.

Some handguns are described as “Automatic”, but are, in fact, semi-automatic.

True assault rifles are capable of operating in at least two different modes—semi-automatic and either fully-automatic or burst-fire.

The term “assault weapon” is a fraud, concocted to confuse the public into thinking that weapons so described are comparable to fully-automatic weapons. The fraudulent anti-Second-Amendment Violence Policy Center even has a page on its web site admitting to the deception.

Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.

In addition to the automatic modes described above, there are a few other categories.…

  • Repeater — Like the automatic and semi-automatics, a repeater has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. But a separate action has to be carried out between shots, to eject the spent round and chamber another one, to set up for the next shot. Think of a pump-action shotgun, for example,or a lever-action rifle.
  • Single-shot — There is no magazine. You can only load one round into the gun at a time. Once you fire that round, you need to manually remove the spent shell, and load a new round into it before you can fire again. The most recognizable, albeit imperfect, example that I can think of is a double-barrelled shotgun, which can be thought of as two single-shot shotguns in one unit. My wife has a single-shot shotgun, which would be a better example,if you can properly imagine it—try to visualize half of a double-barrel shotgun, and if you visualize that correctly, you'll know what I am talking about.

I think revolvers are considered to be outside of the above categories. A single-action revolver, you have to manually cock the hammer between shots, that action also turning the cylinder to put the next round into position. With a double-action revolver, pulling the trigger causes the hammer to be set back, and the cylinder to be turned, so that no other action is required on the part of the operator. Functionally, a double-action revolver is like a semi-automatic gun, though they are not considered to be semi-automatic. I'm not certain why they are not considered semi-automatic, but I suspect that understood definitions of automatic and semi-automatic assume that the energy to operate the action comes from the shot being fired, rather than from the operator's finger on the trigger.
....per my many other posts--semi auto can be just as deadly--if not more--than fully automatic = the semi auto is worse

The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
hahahhahahahahahaha
you fked up AGAIN--BIG time
even the NRA disagrees with you
Rifles are easier to shoot accurately because . . . they’re heavy.
jesus fk christ-everyone knows rifles are more accurate

Rifle vs. Pistol Shooting: Six Fun Facts


At close quarter distances, which is the distance of crime and mass shootings in this country, long range accuracy for a rifle is moot........
 
The semi-auto can be more dangerous because it is far easier to shoot accurately. Nothing about the rifle is inherently more dangerous.
.....semi--auto can be more deadly than full auto--plain and simple--there is no arguing it
....if you are in combat range/distance, a lot of rounds will MISS with full auto--plain and simple...with semi-auto, a lot more will be on target


At crime distances today....a rifle is no different than a pistol.....we are not talking about the battlefield with 300 yard distances of engagement... from the street to a house, or inside a house.....so you are just wrong.
even in a Walmart -you will get MORE assured kills with semi auto faster than with auto
undeniable


Wrong...... it depends on the target, and the time you have to shoot people.

At Gilroy....semi-auto rifle 3 killed.

At Dayton, democrat, socialist, antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter... 9 killed, semi- auto rifle.

Russia Polytechnic shooting....tube fed, 5 shot, pump action shotgun.....20 killed 40 wounded.

Nice, France, muslim terrorist, rental truck, 86 killed, 435 wounded.....

So no, you are just wrong. The entire determinant is time in the gun free zone before someone starts to shoot back.
same link:
Rifles are easier to shoot accurately because . . . they have a longer sight radius.


Which means nothing at close quarter ranges.....
 

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