CDZ What "is" the current legal definition for a "person?"

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    Because the law requires explicit consensus. That doesn't mean we can't debate that legitimacy of that consensus, and change it through legislative action.
     
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    Unless and until or legal definitions change, they are in fact considered to be "common ground."

    True or false?
     
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    more like precedent [judicial] opinion.
     
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    Both have to work with the same definition, regardless. True or false?
     
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    For legal purposes, yes. But it's perfectly valid to question them.
     
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    This is like herding cats. It's clear you don't like the legal definition for what a natural person is, but it is what it is.

    Do you honestly think you are going to change it?
     
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    I know what you are trying to drive at here, and I wish it were true, however for the defacto usage, the court establishes a baseline definition, however take the word allodial for instance, means property ownership outside state jurisdiction, at least until someone did it in nevada where the court said great you can have your allodial but you are still going to pay the property taxes, hence totally gutted the meaning of allodial, so what does allodial mean now?

    So I am not sure what you are trying to do with this thread, and as far as the definition goes I dont care one way or the other however no one in this country has the rights of a natural person with the exception being seen through da gubmints eyes. Not the way it should be but its the way it is. So state your position.
     
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    My position is that the legal definition for what a natural person is - is common ground for all sides of the abortion debate.
     
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    There are more efficient ways of trying to encourage people to vote anti-abortion than beating this to death.

    I almost want to help you just to move things along.

    Heck, I will. Got any instances where an unfortunate gal had an abortion legally then months later was assaulted and lost a child and the "assaulter" was punished? Post it! While I have no problem with what on the surface seems like an inconsistency some will no doubt.
     
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    well now we know his position
     

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