What is so crazy

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    About wanting our politicians to not be corrupt, to follow the Constitution, and to stop spending our money when we haven't earned it yet?

    Many of you guys seem to be freaking out over this. You seem to think this is racist or hateful for some reason. You think anyone who actually wants this stuff is crazy. Can you actually explain why you find this insane?

    Could you also explain why ignoring the Constitution, ignoring correuption, and spending money we don't have is a good thing?
     
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    Well, the constitution is a toughie. People disagree over how a document written in 1787 is supposed to cope with the internet, etc.

    Spending money we don't have has been a fact of American life since WW II. The problem is not that we have deficit, IMO. It's that we have nearly maxed out our borrowing capacity and yet the deficit grows, not in a lineral fashion but expoentially. The day the world downgrades US debt from AAA to B, we will kiss our financial well being good bye, and that day is VERY close.

    I dun know why people are not more vigorous about Public Corruption. The FBI has arrested damned near every employee on the county payroll here, and still I see yard signs for Democratic candidates. What part of "they steal from us" is hard to grasp?
     
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    What part of "the founding fathers were slave owners dont you understand"?

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    Spending needs to be reined in. Maybe the Tea Party folks can make impact there. Corruption? You are asking mankind to not be what it is: corrupt. The debt? Good point. My family has been preparing for a disastrous economic depression for years. Other than massive inflation, I think we can ride the bad times out.
     
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    It seems you are able to hear what you want to hear, and ignore much of what is said.

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    At the first national convention of the "Tea Party Nation" last February in Nashville, Tom Tancredo, former Colorado congressman and now Tea-Party-sponsored candidate for governor (as an Independent), brought the crowd to its feet by denouncing the "cult of multiculturalism" and accusing immigrants of threatening America's Judeo-Christian values. "This is our country," he declared to wild cheers. "Take it back!"

    More than half of Tea Party backers say they'd be more likely to vote for a candidate who supports changing the 14th Amendment to prevent the children of non-citizens born in the U.S. from automatically becoming citizens. And Tea Partiers strongly support Arizona's recent immigration law making failure to carrying immigration documents a crime and giving police broad powers to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. "We're all Arizonans now," says former Alaskan Gov Sarah Palin.

    Why Aren't Business Leaders Standing Up To the Tea Party?
     
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    When you put it into those simplictic terms?

    Absolutely nothing wrong with that

    Could you beg the question just a tad more, please?


    Why don't you illuminate us with your vast and deep understanding of Constitutional scholarship, first, okay?
     
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    Avatar4321's constitutional position is rooted in the year 1791 and expounded by the John Birch Society, Cleon Skousen, and Glenn Beck. That is a world in which he would be very comfortable, I think.
     
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    Seems that if we are going to be governed by a document we should adhear to what it actually says and not what it doesn't say.

    Like when it speaks of the Federal Government having limited powers, we shouldn't give it powers it doesn't have.

    When it says that any powers not given to the Federal Government belong to the states, it actually means that.

    When it says "Congress shall make no law..." about something, that Congress shall not make a law about it.

    That when the Constitution delineates certain powers to certain branches or divisions within those branches, it does so for a good reason.

    Or when the Constitution doesn't say something, it's not a Constitutional issue.

    I find none of this crazy. But apparently some people do. I'd simply like to know why.
     
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    here is the shocking part...neither party is gonna do any of this...get over it...the government now exists to do what....grow...and grow more...it happens under both parties
     
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    Sorry to resort to cliche, but the American people are incapable of resisting the temptation to elect politicians who make a convincing argument that they can have their cake and eat it too.
     

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