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Correction... Obama is trying to cut taxes for everybody but that highest tax bracket.
The republicans are blocking it. Rather than taking that guaranteed tax break they are fighting it. So it looks like Obama is fighting for the middle class, and republicans are fighting democrats rather than helping the middle class.
Correction... Obama is trying to cut taxes for everybody but that highest tax bracket.
The republicans are blocking it. Rather than taking that guaranteed tax break they are fighting it. So it looks like Obama is fighting for the middle class, and republicans are fighting democrats rather than helping the middle class.
He's pitting one group against another.
Why not cut taxes for EVERYONE?
I thought he promised us he was going to be a Uniter.
Haven't seen it yet.
You?
Is he?
Correction... Obama is trying to cut taxes for everybody but that highest tax bracket.
The republicans are blocking it. Rather than taking that guaranteed tax break they are fighting it. So it looks like Obama is fighting for the middle class, and republicans are fighting democrats rather than helping the middle class.
He's pitting one group against another.
While I don't have a problem with that... Lets look at this logically... I'm thirsty... I'm offered a glass of water that is 75% full. Do I turn it down because it's not completely full?Why not cut taxes for EVERYONE?
No. I have not.I thought he promised us he was going to be a Uniter.
Haven't seen it yet.
You?
Is he?Correction... Obama is trying to cut taxes for everybody but that highest tax bracket.
The republicans are blocking it. Rather than taking that guaranteed tax break they are fighting it. So it looks like Obama is fighting for the middle class, and republicans are fighting democrats rather than helping the middle class.
He's pitting one group against another.
While I don't have a problem with that... Lets look at this logically... I'm thirsty... I'm offered a glass of water that is 75% full. Do I turn it down because it's not completely full?Why not cut taxes for EVERYONE?
The republican party is essentially doing that. It's not a cut across the board, so no cuts are going to happen? I see who is pitting one group against another is Mitt on THIS ISSUE. I see no logical way that you can say it's Obama that is pitting one group against another on THIS ISSUE.
No. I have not.I thought he promised us he was going to be a Uniter.
Haven't seen it yet.
You?
Is he?Correction... Obama is trying to cut taxes for everybody but that highest tax bracket.
The republicans are blocking it. Rather than taking that guaranteed tax break they are fighting it. So it looks like Obama is fighting for the middle class, and republicans are fighting democrats rather than helping the middle class.
He's pitting one group against another.
While I don't have a problem with that... Lets look at this logically... I'm thirsty... I'm offered a glass of water that is 75% full. Do I turn it down because it's not completely full?Why not cut taxes for EVERYONE?
The republican party is essentially doing that. It's not a cut across the board, so no cuts are going to happen? I see who is pitting one group against another is Mitt on THIS ISSUE. I see no logical way that you can say it's Obama that is pitting one group against another on THIS ISSUE.
No. I have not.I thought he promised us he was going to be a Uniter.
Haven't seen it yet.
You?
You missed that I absolutely support a flat tax. No more loop holes, not bullshit deductions. Flat tax over the poverty limit, whatever that is decided. Edit: Or a federal consumption tax. That works for me as well. /EditIs he?He's pitting one group against another.
While I don't have a problem with that... Lets look at this logically... I'm thirsty... I'm offered a glass of water that is 75% full. Do I turn it down because it's not completely full?
The republican party is essentially doing that. It's not a cut across the board, so no cuts are going to happen? I see who is pitting one group against another is Mitt on THIS ISSUE. I see no logical way that you can say it's Obama that is pitting one group against another on THIS ISSUE.
No. I have not.I thought he promised us he was going to be a Uniter.
Haven't seen it yet.
You?
A bill is offered as class warfare and you will not stand on the principle that all americans should be treated equally.
What did I miss?
Is he?Correction... Obama is trying to cut taxes for everybody but that highest tax bracket.
The republicans are blocking it. Rather than taking that guaranteed tax break they are fighting it. So it looks like Obama is fighting for the middle class, and republicans are fighting democrats rather than helping the middle class.
He's pitting one group against another.
While I don't have a problem with that... Lets look at this logically... I'm thirsty... I'm offered a glass of water that is 75% full. Do I turn it down because it's not completely full?Why not cut taxes for EVERYONE?
The republican party is essentially doing that. It's not a cut across the board, so no cuts are going to happen? I see who is pitting one group against another is Mitt on THIS ISSUE. I see no logical way that you can say it's Obama that is pitting one group against another on THIS ISSUE.
No. I have not.I thought he promised us he was going to be a Uniter.
Haven't seen it yet.
You?
I refuse to provide a link to the payroll tax cut from 2009 that is still in effect. If you're not aware of this tax cut, it's clear you don't work for a living and should be spending time finding a job.Obama cut taxes for middle class Americans.
Link?
And that's fine... I do that as well as far as the whole picture is concerned. I believe both are wrong on how they are going about things, and it's more about their individual parties than it is about the well being of the American citizen.I hold Rep AND Dem responsible.
You do realize that you are talking about Social Security tax reduction, not tax reduction to the US Government? BTW....that 2 points will do more harm to the individual than help the economy.Obama cut taxes for middle class Americans.
No he hasn't. Tax rates have remained the same.
That will come as quite a shock to every employer who has followed the IRS guidance to reduce payroll taxes by 2 points.
I refuse to provide a link to the payroll tax cut from 2009 that is still in effect. If you're not aware of this tax cut, it's clear you don't work for a living and should be spending time finding a job.
The payroll tax cut started in 2011 and was extended for 2012.
The Making Work Pay tax cut - the predecessor to the 2011 cut based on the same amounts - was part of the stimulus package's 260B in tax cuts.
In late 2010, Congress and President Obama passed new tax laws that take effect in 2011 (Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010).
If you make less than $20,000, you will see less savings.
This affects about 45 million households. On average, low income earners will see $210 less over the course of the year. For example, let’s say you make $15,000 a year. Under the Social Security tax cut, you save $300. That’s one hundred less than the $400 you would have saved under the Making Work Pay tax credit.
For some people who work for state and local governments, the savings will be even less.
Many people in those categories don’t pay in to Social Security. Therefore, they won’t see any savings under the new tax laws. There are about six million households that fit that category.
And that's fine... I do that as well as far as the whole picture is concerned. I believe both are wrong on how they are going about things, and it's more about their individual parties than it is about the well being of the American citizen.I hold Rep AND Dem responsible.
But I do believe in good solid logical arguments that don't sound like someone is an mental invalid.
The Republican party can take the high road and say they believe in equality between all and everyone should have a tax decrease. But they can get that tax decrease for some, and still take that high road and say they believe in equality and shame on the Democrats for not.
Well met...And that's fine... I do that as well as far as the whole picture is concerned. I believe both are wrong on how they are going about things, and it's more about their individual parties than it is about the well being of the American citizen.I hold Rep AND Dem responsible.
But I do believe in good solid logical arguments that don't sound like someone is an mental invalid.
The Republican party can take the high road and say they believe in equality between all and everyone should have a tax decrease. But they can get that tax decrease for some, and still take that high road and say they believe in equality and shame on the Democrats for not.
All I can do is add it to my prayers, tonight, though
You do realize that you are talking about Social Security tax reduction, not tax reduction to the US Government? BTW....that 2 points will do more harm to the individual than help the economy.No he hasn't. Tax rates have remained the same.
That will come as quite a shock to every employer who has followed the IRS guidance to reduce payroll taxes by 2 points.
The payroll tax cut started in 2011 and was extended for 2012.
The Making Work Pay tax cut - the predecessor to the 2011 cut based on the same amounts - was part of the stimulus package's 260B in tax cuts.
The Making Work Pay tax cut was a tax credit of up to a maximum of $400 for an individual and up to $800 for a couple. It had nothing to do with Soc Sec and is no longer is effect. No wonder you didn't want to provide a link to the payroll tax cut from 2009.
In late 2010, Congress and President Obama passed new tax laws that take effect in 2011 (Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010).
If you make less than $20,000, you will see less savings.
This affects about 45 million households. On average, low income earners will see $210 less over the course of the year. For example, lets say you make $15,000 a year. Under the Social Security tax cut, you save $300. Thats one hundred less than the $400 you would have saved under the Making Work Pay tax credit.
For some people who work for state and local governments, the savings will be even less.
Many people in those categories dont pay in to Social Security. Therefore, they wont see any savings under the new tax laws. There are about six million households that fit that category.
