What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

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What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

  1. Free healthcare.

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. Free college.

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. Free housing.

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. Dont have to work and still get paid.

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  5. Can smoke dope and still get paid.

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  6. Have the government to take care of me from cradle to grave.

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  7. Socialism has never worked and never will work, it is failure of misery and poverty.

    12 vote(s)
    66.7%
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  1. dblack
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    I know what it is, you pompous prick.

    But apparently you don't. In any case, I haven't got time for your usual equivocation and evasion. You're not an honest debater. Take your shell game somewhere else.
     
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    You don't have a foundation to stand on. You are running away because what you know about political economy fits on a bumper sticker. You're right, we've already been down this road.
     
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    That's the definition fo the word. It's pretty clear that, unless we're discussing anarchy, we're talking about government control.

    If "market socialism" doesn't involve collective ownership of the means of production, it's not socialism, and advocates should find another name for it. But it does, so they don't.
     
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    A co-op is a collective ownership of the means of production. What's that got to do with government control?
     
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    Listen, fake boy, if all you're talking about is communes, or collectives, or employee owned companies - why call it socialism? Why scare people and make them think you're a commie?

    Here's why: because you're lying. Because you want to spread confusion and doubt and undermine the meaning of the words we use in order to manipulate people. Fuck you.
     
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    I am a commie, but that is besides the point. You only fear it because you don't understand it.

    You proposed the definition and by your definition a co-op is socialist. If that definition doesn't suit your purpose then I would advise you to find another one.

    I would also suggest you dig a little deeper into how the different social systems of production operate. Then maybe you can dispense with the bumper sticker talking points you've been trained to use.
     
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    Sling your con job somewhere else.
     
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    You clearly have no idea what it is all about, no experience, not even well-read. Even simple words like 'control' and 'regulate! are beyond your comprehension.
     
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    You really posted that? You really posted that..... Did you actually read your own link? Bottom of the page *YOU* posted.....

    “Put simply, cheaper cities also tend to be less livable,” EIU said.
    The super cheap cities to live in, are super cheap because they suck. Duh.... When you can buy an entire house for $1,000... like in Detroit.... it's because people are leaving Detroit. No one wants those properties.... that's why they are cheap.

    Are you an idiot? I'm completely baffled by this... you posted a link proving your own position idiotic.

    “As Damascus and Caracas show, a growing number of locations are becoming cheaper because of the impact of political or economic disruption,” EIU said.
    Again, this is from YOUR link.... Caracas has overtaken Damascus as the cheapest city...... Damascus... you know.... Damascus Syria where the government has dropped barrel bombs on schools, and used chemical gas on it's own people, where they have been in civil war for 8 full years now......

    Caracas is even LESS desirable than the capital city of a country in full blown civil war.

    You don't see how hilariously stupid you look to everyone on this forum now?

     
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    It is very civilized of you to ask him .... but we already know the answer so it's sort of a rhetorical question.
     

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