What Is "Greed"?

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    The OWS movement rails about "greed", like we can outlaw an emotion.
    But what is greed? Is someone who works hard because he wants to get ahead greedy? I don't think anyone would say so.
    It seems greed is wanting money that legitimately doesn't belong to you. I can be as greedy as I want, but unless someone gives me money voluntarily then it doesn't do much. If I deceive someone, then I am a criminal. But if I deliver on what I've promised then I've earned my money.
    By that definition the OWS crowd are the greedy ones. They demand their student loans get paid off, yet they've done nothing to deserve that. They demand--well, I dont know what they want. Neither do they. But demanding someone else's money is greed.
     
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    The wealthy whine about tax increases, yet the 1990s with the Clinton era tax rates had the best result between Federal taxing & spending. There was a "surplus".
     
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    Greed is pretty good. Avarice is what's bad.

    Take your average greedy rich person. He could well bet the farm on a bum stock trade and lose it all because he's greedy. Call it redistribution of wealth today.

    The avaricious, that described democrats to T.
     
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    Greed is bribing corrupt politicians for favorable tax treatment.
    Ask Warren Buffett:

    "'Through the tax code, there has been class warfare waged, and my class has won,' Buffett said.

    "It’s been a rout. You have seen a period where American workers generally have gone no place, and where the really super rich as a group increased their incomes five for one in this rarified atmosphere.'”

    Why We Need Occupy Wall Street
     
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    The answer then, is to become rich! Anyone can do it. If a couple of kids fidding in the garage can create Microsoft or Apple, it can be done.

    Not by the lazy, but it can be done.

    The battle cry of the left is GIMMMEEEEE.
     
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    Why is Bill Gates calling for higher taxes on the 1%?
     
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    BEcause he's already made his money.
     
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    Lk. 12:15 - "be on guard against every form of greed; life is not in possessions"

    lust and envy - James 4:2

    covetousness - Exod. 20:17; Rom. 7:7,8; I Cor. 5:11


    the gravest of sins - Mark 7:22; Rom. 1:29; I Cor. 6:10; Eph. 5:3

    Greed is idolatry - Eph. 5:5; Col. 3:5


    Greed is materialism gone beyond healthy self-interest
     
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    "As the following post from Politico’s Ben Smith illustrates, OWS really has altered what the media talk about—the chart measures a Nexis search of print stories, Web stories, and broadcast transcripts that used the term 'income inequality,' measured by week..."

    "It runs from 91 instances in the week before the occupation started to almost 500 instances in the last week of October."

    Why We Need Occupy Wall Street

    When Occupy Wall Street becomes Occupy New York and puts hundreds of thousands of protestors into the streets around Zuccotti Park, "income inequality" will become Wall Street's epitaph. Nail the greedy bankers to their "Cross of Gold."

    Then FLUSH hundreds of elected Republicans AND Democrats from DC in a single news cycle.
     
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    I share your POV, Geroge, but I think you're more hopeful than I am.

    I've kinda seen these popular protests come and go, ya know?

    I mean, compared to the antiwar and civil rights movements OWS seems like (at least so far) small potatoes.

    But the fact that the OWS movement has changed the nature of the grand national argument Americans are having?

    Now THAT has been it's major success to date.

    And THAT is a good thing, in my opinion.
     

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