What is Europe's real response ?

[BlueJay28]

Mitsubishi, and the absolutely Astronomical list of products that it creates besides just cars.
Honda
Toyota and Lexus
Acura
Mazda
Subaru
Suzuki
Isuzu
Kawasaki, and its train, and shipbuilding.


IHI Shipbuilding

Sony
Toshiba
JVC
Sharp
Casio
Brother
Kyocera

Seven Eleven (yes seven eleven)

The list goes on, but those are Japans big sellers here.

And Japan's government consumerism of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Bell, Sikorsky, Northrop Grumman, Huntington Ingalls and General Dynamics..

What is Europe's realistic response, in terms of not just having a product of their own, but what is their real answer in terms of all of them...

Having the products that compete with it
Having the quality that can compete with it
Having the powerful marketing system for global sales
Having the expertise
Having the diverse product line
Having the Affordable price

Having the GDP to collect taxes FROM, to buy.


What is Europe's real response ?

Because I don't see any.


This is what I see out of Europe.


Great hand weapons, and fashion... and recipes from Southern Europe... and nothing else.. throughout all of Europe, that can compete against America, Canadian, Australian, South Korean and Japanese goods.

 

[RUNVS]

Germany has a huge car manufacturing industry and they also have a huge solar energy industry as well that is bringing in a lot of money to the country.

 

[BlueJay28]

Maybe its huge by European standards...
Which is in reality, as small as a roach.

It doesn't say anything about electronics or modern shipbuilding capable of replacing or competing with Aegis.

 

[Kondor3]

Europe is tired.

 

[RUNVS]

Maybe its huge by European standards...
Which is in reality, as small as a roach.

Well according to this article

In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million.

How Germany Builds Twice As Many Cars As The U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice As Much - Forbes

Germany builds twice as many cars per year as the USA and they would have something like 25% of the population.

 

[BlueJay28]

Europe is tired.

Japan is whole lot older than any present day European country.

 

[Kondor3]

Europe is tired.

Japan is whole lot older than any present day European country.

Europe overreached itself with all of its global Empire-building (and upkeep) during the couple of centuries leading up to the 20th.

And then Europe bled itself half-to-death by fighting two nihilistic wars in the 20th that bankrupted and destroyed them and shattered their Empires.

Requiring decades of re-building and the re-educating of entire populations to ensure a less hostile and aggressive near-term future.

Hell, the biggest country in Europe - Germany - only achieved reunification within the past couple of decades and is still assimilating its constituent parts.

Their ambitions and reach have been scaled back to match their greatly reduced circumstances and wealth and resources.

They must band together now in order to conduct business on the same scale as an America or a China or a Russia, whereas, in time past, several of them could go it alone, upheld by global Empires or commonwealths or domains of Colonies, without much regard for today's Big Boys.

And, they're still struggling - mightily - and not very successfully, it seems - with issues of continent-wide Unity and Common Purpose.

They'll get it right, eventually, but, truth be told, they've been through the ringer, even worse than Japan, and they're bone-tired after all the in-fighting of the past hundred years or so, and they need more time to get their act together.

Or so it seems, to this casual observer of such things.

 

[BlueJay28]

Europe is tired.

Japan is whole lot older than any present day European country.

Europe overreached itself with all of its global Empire-building (and upkeep) during the couple of centuries leading up to the 20th.

And then Europe bled itself half-to-death by fighting two nihilistic wars in the 20th that bankrupted and destroyed them and shattered their Empires.

Requiring decades of re-building and the re-educating of entire populations to ensure a less hostile and aggressive near-term future.

Hell, the biggest country in Europe - Germany - only achieved reunification within the past couple of decades and is still assimilating its constituent parts.

Their ambitions and reach have been scaled back to match their greatly reduced circumstances and wealth and resources.

They must band together now in order to conduct business on the same scale as an America or a China or a Russia, whereas, in time past, several of them could go it alone, upheld by global Empires or commonwealths or domains of Colonies, without much regard for today's Big Boys.

And, they're still struggling - mightily - and not very successfully, it seems - with issues of continent-wide Unity and Common Purpose.

They'll get it right, eventually, but, truth be told, they've been through the ringer, even worse than Japan, and they're bone-tired after all the in-fighting of the past hundred years or so, and they need more time to get their act together.

Or so it seems, to this casual observer of such things.

Japan got nuked not once, but twice.... and Japan had to be rebuilt, and re educated and modernized after thousands of years of being socially and economically the exact same.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Who gives a fuck and why is this in politics?

 

[Kondor3]

Europe is tired.

Japan is whole lot older than any present day European country.

Europe overreached itself with all of its global Empire-building (and upkeep) during the couple of centuries leading up to the 20th.

And then Europe bled itself half-to-death by fighting two nihilistic wars in the 20th that bankrupted and destroyed them and shattered their Empires.

Requiring decades of re-building and the re-educating of entire populations to ensure a less hostile and aggressive near-term future.

Hell, the biggest country in Europe - Germany - only achieved reunification within the past couple of decades and is still assimilating its constituent parts.

Their ambitions and reach have been scaled back to match their greatly reduced circumstances and wealth and resources.

They must band together now in order to conduct business on the same scale as an America or a China or a Russia, whereas, in time past, several of them could go it alone, upheld by global Empires or commonwealths or domains of Colonies, without much regard for today's Big Boys.

And, they're still struggling - mightily - and not very successfully, it seems - with issues of continent-wide Unity and Common Purpose.

They'll get it right, eventually, but, truth be told, they've been through the ringer, even worse than Japan, and they're bone-tired after all the in-fighting of the past hundred years or so, and they need more time to get their act together.

Or so it seems, to this casual observer of such things.

Japan got nuked not once, but twice

Europe suffered far, far worse.

The Europeans lost scores of cities and towns... not just two... and their total casualties from strategic bombing far exceeded those of the Japanese, even after you add the casualties of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the fire-bombing of Tokyo together... and Euro losses were spread over years, not just at the very end.

Just ask the survivors of Dresden and Hamburg and Bremerhaven and Frankfurt and Hanau and London and Coventry and Warsaw and all the rest.

Also, the Euros suffered from the devastating effects of the FIRST World War in their backyards as well, something the Japanese did NOT experience., and that a mere 20-25 years prior to the SECOND... and they hadn't even truly recovered from the first, by the time they started the second.

All in all, the Euros got the worst of the deal, by a wide margin, methinks - enough to make the Euros jealous of losing only two or three cities or towns.

Largely self-inflicted, mind you, but far worse, nevertheless.

As I said earlier...

Europe is tired...

With good reason...

So they seem willing to take a back seat for a while and to control theri growth and their appetites while they iron-out their differences in an attempt to establish a long-lasting Collective that will allow them to play on a par with the Big Kids of modern times...

 

[BlueJay28]

Europe is tired.

Japan is whole lot older than any present day European country.

Europe overreached itself with all of its global Empire-building (and upkeep) during the couple of centuries leading up to the 20th.

And then Europe bled itself half-to-death by fighting two nihilistic wars in the 20th that bankrupted and destroyed them and shattered their Empires.

Requiring decades of re-building and the re-educating of entire populations to ensure a less hostile and aggressive near-term future.

Hell, the biggest country in Europe - Germany - only achieved reunification within the past couple of decades and is still assimilating its constituent parts.

Their ambitions and reach have been scaled back to match their greatly reduced circumstances and wealth and resources.

They must band together now in order to conduct business on the same scale as an America or a China or a Russia, whereas, in time past, several of them could go it alone, upheld by global Empires or commonwealths or domains of Colonies, without much regard for today's Big Boys.

And, they're still struggling - mightily - and not very successfully, it seems - with issues of continent-wide Unity and Common Purpose.

They'll get it right, eventually, but, truth be told, they've been through the ringer, even worse than Japan, and they're bone-tired after all the in-fighting of the past hundred years or so, and they need more time to get their act together.

Or so it seems, to this casual observer of such things.

Japan got nuked not once, but twice

Europe suffered far, far worse.

The Europeans lost scores of cities and towns... not just two... and their total casualties from strategic bombing far exceeded those of the Japanese, even after you add the casualties of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the fire-bombing of Tokyo together... and Euro losses were spread over years, not just at the very end.

Just ask the survivors of Dresden and Hamburg and Bremerhaven and Frankfurt and Hanau and London and Coventry and Warsaw and all the rest.

Also, the Euros suffered from the devastating effects of the FIRST World War in their backyards as well, something the Japanese did NOT experience., and that a mere 20-25 years prior to the SECOND... and they hadn't even truly recovered from the first, by the time they started the second.

All in all, the Euros got the worst of the deal, by a wide margin, methinks - enough to make the Euros jealous of losing only two or three cities or towns.

Largely self-inflicted, mind you, but far worse, nevertheless.

Nevertheless, The world will not stand still for Europe.
Europe is not the center of the world, and MORE non European cultures exist than does European, and they need to fuck off then.. and stop expecting the more advanced world outside of Europe, to learn their inferior ways.

 

[BlueJay28]

Here in America, we have a Non-European culture of our own.

 

[montelatici]

The BCE just started QE which the US and Japan has had for several years. I am no fan of QE, but it seems to promote GDP growth.

 

[montelatici]

Here in America, we have a Non-European culture of our own.

Now that's funny. In the Americas, everyone speaks a European language, language is the most important thing when comes to culture. What a fool you are.

 

[BlueJay28]

Here in America, we have a Non-European culture of our own.

Now that's funny. In the Americas, everyone speaks a European language, language is the most important thing when comes to culture. What a fool you are.

The belief that all people are created equal, that's American and not European, never in history until after world war 2 was it European, to this day, its far, far less European than it is American.

The belief in Freedom, never in history has it been European, and it still isn't just judging the laws and unofficial, De Facto social systems they have.

Apparently the belief in work... is American and not European too.

Thank you.

Btw if you don't like it, go fuck yourself.
Btw, fuck Europe.

If they're tired they need to shut the fuck up and fuck off, because we're not.

 

[RUNVS]

Here in America, we have a Non-European culture of our own.

Now that's funny. In the Americas, everyone speaks a European language, language is the most important thing when comes to culture. What a fool you are.

The belief that all people are created equal, that's American and not European, never in history until after world war 2 was it European, to this day, its far, far less European than it is American.

The belief in Freedom, never in history has it been European, and it still isn't just judging the laws and unofficial, De Facto social systems they have.

Apparently the belief in work... is American and not European too.

Thank you.

Btw if you don't like it, go fuck yourself.
Btw, fuck Europe.

If they're tired they need to shut the fuck up and fuck off, because we're not.

Um women's suffrage the UK had equal voting rights 2 years before the USA.

Universal voting rights for the UK happened in 1928, for the USA it was 1965

 

[Bleipriester]

Mitsubishi, and the absolutely Astronomical list of products that it creates besides just cars.
Honda
Toyota and Lexus
Acura
Mazda
Subaru
Suzuki
Isuzu
Kawasaki, and its train, and shipbuilding.


IHI Shipbuilding

Sony
Toshiba
JVC
Sharp
Casio
Brother
Kyocera

Seven Eleven (yes seven eleven)

The list goes on, but those are Japans big sellers here.

And Japan's government consumerism of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Bell, Sikorsky, Northrop Grumman, Huntington Ingalls and General Dynamics..

What is Europe's realistic response, in terms of not just having a product of their own, but what is their real answer in terms of all of them...

Having the products that compete with it
Having the quality that can compete with it
Having the powerful marketing system for global sales
Having the expertise
Having the diverse product line
Having the Affordable price

Having the GDP to collect taxes FROM, to buy.


What is Europe's real response ?

Because I don't see any.


This is what I see out of Europe.


Great hand weapons, and fashion... and recipes from Southern Europe... and nothing else.. throughout all of Europe, that can compete against America, Canadian, Australian, South Korean and Japanese goods.

Europe doesn´t need to "response" because it is the origin of that all. Of course, there are manufacturers of everything in Europe.

Mitsubishi, and the absolutely Astronomical list of products that it creates besides just cars.
Honda
Toyota and Lexus
Acura
Mazda
Subaru
Suzuki
Isuzu
Kawasaki, and its train, and shipbuilding.

The numberless car manufacturers in Europe outnumber every other continent by far.

IHI Shipbuilding

Sony
Toshiba
JVC
Sharp
Casio
Brother
Kyocera

Seven Eleven (yes seven eleven)

The European shipbuilding has a long tradition.

1914: The Vaterland, the world´s largest ship ever built in that time, runs into New York´s port:

Today, the European shipbuilding sheds feathers due to cheaper competition but it is still there. The Queen Mary 2 for example was made in France and gets maintained in Germany.

About 50 % of all ships are run by German engines.

And Japan's government consumerism of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Bell, Sikorsky, Northrop Grumman, Huntington Ingalls and General Dynamics..

What is Europe's realistic response, in terms of not just having a product of their own, but what is their real answer in terms of all of them...

Europe´s largest aircraft manufacturers are British Aerospace EAP and Airbus, which is a combine made of European aviation authorities and companies.
European, particularly German technology, is part of almost every civilian and military plane out there. The German jet engine manufacturer MTU delivers its technology to customers such like Pratt & Whitney, General Electric, Rolls-Royce, Volvo Aero, Avio and Snecma.

There are also various armament manufacturers such like Krauss-Maffei Wegmann. China has just replaced Germany as third largest arms exporter.

 

[Bootneck]

The list goes on, but those are Japans big sellers here.

What is Europe's real response ?

Because I don't see any.


This is what I see out of Europe.


Great hand weapons, and fashion... and recipes from Southern Europe... and nothing else.. throughout all of Europe, that can compete against America, Canadian, Australian, South Korean and Japanese goods.

Lol! Perhaps you should have done some research before posting such garbage.

Here is a list of European manufactured cars, many of which are exported throughout the world;

• Alfa Romeo
• Aston Martin
• Audi
• Austin
• Autobianchi
• Bentley
• BMW
• Bugatti
• Citroen
• Dacia
• DAF
• Daimler
• Donkervoort
• Ferrari
• Fiat
• Innocenti
• Jaguar
• Jensen
• Lada
• Lamborghini
• Lancia
• Land Rover
• Ligier
• Lotus
• Maserati
• Maybach
• Mercedes-Benz
• MG
• Mini
• Morris
• Opel
• Peugeot
• Porsche
• Renault
• Rolls-Royce
• Rover
• Saab
• Seat
• Skoda
• Smart
• Triumph
• TVR
• UMM
• Vauxhall
• Volkswagen
• Volvo

Not to mention just a few of the other major companies exporting worldwide:

Bosch, Neff, Siemens, BAE Systems, Philips...the list goes on.

I suppose you've never heard of Scotch Whisky, French Cognac or Champagne either. All of which account for massive export markets.

 

[montelatici]

Here in America, we have a Non-European culture of our own.

Now that's funny. In the Americas, everyone speaks a European language, language is the most important thing when comes to culture. What a fool you are.

The belief that all people are created equal, that's American and not European, never in history until after world war 2 was it European, to this day, its far, far less European than it is American.

The belief in Freedom, never in history has it been European, and it still isn't just judging the laws and unofficial, De Facto social systems they have.

Apparently the belief in work... is American and not European too.

Thank you.

Btw if you don't like it, go fuck yourself.
Btw, fuck Europe.

If they're tired they need to shut the fuck up and fuck off, because we're not.

You are one ignorant p.o.s. Jefferson got the idea of "all men are created equal" from an Italian. Mazzei. Where do you think the word "democracy" comes from. Where do you think the first republics were formed and representative democracy established. Here's a hint, where does the word Senate come from. Have you any clue what SPQR means? Go back to school and learn some history. You haven't a clue about Europe, historical or present day.

 

[montelatici]

By the way, this is just about one EU state, now multiply it by all the EU states. That's what Europe does: