What Is Enough Money?

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    When you try to decide whether you and yours have enough money, what standard do you use? I'll admit, mine seems to vary. When I watch Suze Orman, I feel as if there's an objective formula and the question should be easy to answer.

    When I talk to my kidlet, if she has a struggle with money I cannot solve for her, I feel as if I have nowhere near enough.

    When I watch television, or ponder what my friends and family seem able to afford, etc., I feel I have nowhere near enough.

    I've been wealth-ier and poorer than I am now. No matter how much I had, it never, ever felt like enough. Mebbe because I was poor as a child and young adult, anxiety over money has plagued me all my life when I allowed it.

    But I have a home, food, a car, and money in savings. Is this enough? It would be, to 99% of the world. For most of my life, I said this was my goal, that I just wanted to feel "secure".

    What standard do you use to measure "enough"? Do you look inward, to what your own needs and goals are or have been...or outward, to what you think others may have?
     
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    My whole relationship to properity changed when I traveled to third world countries. Even the poor in America have more than the poor in third world nations.

    We have police, roads and infrastructure, food stamps, libraries, free public education, fire fighters, a military, hospitals, national parks, social security, welfare, charitable foundations.

    We are truly a wealthy nation.

    I used to have kind of a poverty consciousness. No more.
     
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    Enough money is whatever I happen to have at the time. Simple. Making more is always nice but never needed and making less would mean some cutbacks.
     
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    I guess my question is, is your sense of having enough (or not) ever affected by the apparent wealth (or poverty) of others...rather than by your own well-being? Mine is. When I realize that I feel deprived not because I need something and cannot have it, but because I think everyone else's standard of living has risen faster than mine, I get annoyed at myself.

    Seems to me, this is a fairly common experience in America. But how can you "need" something you did not earlier, once you come to believe that others have it? Is that a basis for any real "need"?

     
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    That's not a common practice in America, it's a common practice of mankind. I have been lucky and have never really cared what others have. I have wants but those are more concerned with what I want, not with what others have. IMHO, that attitude breeds nothing but grief and sadness. There will ALWAYS be other that are better off and have more than you do. There will always be those that have less as well. Happiness can never be found in another, you have to find that equilibrium within yourself and be happy with your goals and accomplishments. I would like to have more but I am rather content with what I have and I like it that way. Some time ago I surprised myself when I realized that me and my wife live at the same level despite changes in our earnings. When our earnings increased we simply saved the extra and not on purpose (I never could stick to a budget). Of course that has affected us negatively when our earnings drop but it has not dropped to a point where that would actually matter in at least 5 years and will not likely happen again. I believe that it is because we have never fallen into that trap of having one up on the neighbors or seeing what others have and wanting it.
     
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    Everyone is different. My neighbor is a zillionaire but drives an 8 or so year old truck, rides his horse to town to save diesel and buys his clothes from a Ropa Americana, kinda like a Goodwill store.
    He's lived in the same little farmhouse for over 50 years.He's the happiest guy I know and doesn't have many material possessions. Just thousands of acres and head of cattle and some fine horses.

    Then you have murkin assholes like me that have a hissy fit if I cant flip 50 grand out of my pocket for something I want.
    Well. That was the old me.Florida boy.Choppers, airboats,28 foot Parker, Cat in the not so Virgin Islands, hot cars, fine jewelry, huge knife and gun collection, every decent piece of cast iron cookware ever made etc etc..
    The last expensive thing I bought was a windmill. $20K, several years ago.My vehicle is a 1973 diesel Land Cruiser.I don't own a watch or any Jew_lery. I have no long pants other than bib overalls. 3 pieces of footwear. One belt.One leather jacket. One rain jacket.One hat.
    I'm far happier than I ever was with all of that useless shit.

    I ditched all of that crap when I realized murka and the dollar were finished and hit the road.
    I was laughed at until all my buddies watched their idiocy collapsing all around them. One lives in a shed now.
    $10,000 SF house, on 10 acres, with a 100,000 gallon swimming pool to a shed, in 6 years flat.
    Only in murka !

    The person that spoke of third world travel got it right.
    Relax and don't be a CONNEDsumer.Ya can't take it with you so why have it ?

    Get rid of anything you don't use or need and pay off your slavemaster. THEN You'll have enough.
     
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    Too bad you didn't have enough character to leave your prejudices behind the same way you claim to have left materialism behind.
     
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    Do you have enough money to support your lifestyle?

    Have you saved some for a rainy day?

    If so then you're affluent.

    This question is entirely subjective for most Americans.

    There is really no right answer.
     
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    Prejudice is a disease. You catch it from idiots of every race and religion.
    Some are far more likely to be ' infected carriers".Being surrounded by, and doing business with, some can give a person a terrible case of it.
    The only way to get cured of it is to get far, far away from them. The recovery is quite slow.
     
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    So you're blaming others for your short comings? Nice.
     

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