What Is Congress Stimulating?

[Truthmatters]

Funny all the republicans involved in this mess get NONE of his scorn but Clinton is the only one he blames?


I blame Clinton too but I also blame the vast collection of Rs who fought for YEARS to get this bill passed.

Go read its history Gramm worked for YEARS to pass this dog. His wife worked for Enron at the time and benifited Greatly from the bill.

 

[Skull Pilot]

This amendment did not come from Clinton.

It came from Phil Gramm.

Getting rid of the FDR's regulations is what caused the crash.

The firewalls worked for 60 years.

the bill with the amendment was signed by clinton therefore he is responsible.

If he really disagreed he could have looked really hard for a shed of principle, vetoed the bill and let congress take the blame. but I guess it's hard to think with an intern's lips wrapped around one's nether regions.

Like I said IF he had any principles

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Let's just stick with your tax cuts. They did a really great deal the last eight years.

If you continue to do what you already done, you'll never get more than you've already got.

Right, lets keep up the path of the last eight years that got us into this shit.

The last 8 years that got us into this? More like the last 96 years, seeing as it's the Federal Reserve that primarily got us into this mess.

Cutting taxes and cutting government spending would be just what the doctor ordered right about now. That and abolishing the Fed, of course.

And THAT DR would lose his license for malpractice when the patient died on the table.


Even milton friedman thinks FDRs ideas worked.

Well if we're to continue this analogy I suppose I have to mention that the patient only dies when the dollar becomes absolutely worthless, which would be a product of the course we're currently taking not the course I'm suggesting.

That would be because Milton Friedman is a statist. He would also be wrong.

 

[Meister]

This amendment did not come from Clinton.

It came from Phil Gramm.

Getting rid of the FDR's regulations is what caused the crash.

The firewalls worked for 60 years.

Chris...just what are you talking about? Clinton could have vetoed the damn thing and didn't. He didn't do his job. Again, the economy was in the tank under Jimmy Carter. Or do you just want to ingnore that little fact? Also, JFK gave tax cuts under his administration to help the economy out. But, once again we will just ignore that little fact. I do see that you ingnore facts just to bolster your fantasy with FDR...a socialist. Also, you won't admit that WWII did bail us out of the Great Depression. Just keep ingnoring the facts Chris. You are so full of BS.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Wonder Land: Daniel Henninger Looks at How Much 'Stimulus' Money Will Be Spent on Government Infrastructure - WSJ.com

Check your PC's virus program, then pull down the nearly 700 pages of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Dive into its dank waters and what is most striking is how much "stimulus" money is being spent on the government's own infrastructure. This bill isn't economic stimulus. It's self-stimulus.

(All sums here include the disorienting zeros, as in the bill.)

Title VI, Financial Services and General Government, says that "not less than $6,000,000,000 shall be used for construction, repair, and alteration of Federal buildings." There's enough money there to name a building after every Member of Congress.

The Bureau of Land Management gets $325,000,000 to spend fixing federal land, including "trail repair" and "remediation of abandoned mines or well sites," no doubt left over from the 19th-century land rush.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are getting $462,000,000 for "equipment, construction, and renovation of facilities, including necessary repairs and improvements to leased laboratories."

The National Institute of Standards gets $357,000,000 for the "construction of research facilities." The Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration gets $427,000,000 for that. The country is in an economic meltdown and the federal government is redecorating.

The FBI gets $75,000,000 for "salaries and expenses." Inside the $6,200,000,000 Weatherization Assistance Program one finds "expenses" of $500,000,000. How many bureaucrats does it take to "expense" a half-billion dollars?

The current, Senate-amended version now lists "an additional amount to be deposited in the Federal Buildings Fund, $9,048,000,000." Of this, "not less than $6,000,000,000 shall be available for measures necessary to convert GSA facilities to High-Performance Green Buildings." High performance?

Sen. Tom Coburn is threatening to read the bill on the floor of the Senate. I have a better idea: Read it on "Saturday Night Live."

Such as the amendment to Section 2(3)(F) of the Longshore and Harbor Workers' Compensation Act, which will permit payments to guys employed to repair "recreational vessels." Under Incentives for New Jobs, we find a credit to employ what the bill calls "disconnected youths," defined as "not readily employable by reason of lacking a sufficient number of basic skills."

President Obama is saying the bill will "create or save" three million new jobs. The bad news is your new boss is Uncle Sam.

I'm thinking putting money into the federal reconstruction is not to bad. Although I would like to see the FBI and SEC get the funds it needs to crack down on the major fraud players.

Remodeling/construction on federal facilities can't be all that bad. At least the tax payer is not footing half the bill to build stadiums named after the banks or milions upon millions to build new credit or mortgage centers. Or pay for companies to send our light manufacturing jobs to Mexico or overseas.

I'd say now is the time to get back into contracting.

The FBI and SEC shouldn't get more money for failing to catch fraud. The SEC at least should be abolished because it obviously doesn't work, and we shouldn't waste more money in an attempt to make them worthwhile.

 

[Truthmatters]

He did his job as did Gramm , leach and Bliely.

Clinton desided to sign it Gramm desided to write it and worked for over a decade to get it passed.

Now it turned out Clinton and Gramm as well as anyone who voted for it was wrong about its effects on the economy.

Once it was appearent that it was going to Fuck Up the economy do you think someone should have changed it?

 

[Skull Pilot]

He did his job as did Gramm , leach and Bliely.

Clinton desided to sign it Gramm desided to write it and worked for over a decade to get it passed.

Now it turned out Clinton and Gramm as well as anyone who voted for it was wrong about its effects on the economy.

Once it was appearent that it was going to Fuck Up the economy do you think someone should have changed it?

you should try out for the Olympic Blame Shifting team, guaranteed gold medal

 

[Meister]

He did his job as did Gramm , leach and Bliely.

Clinton desided to sign it Gramm desided to write it and worked for over a decade to get it passed.

Now it turned out Clinton and Gramm as well as anyone who voted for it was wrong about its effects on the economy.

Once it was appearent that it was going to Fuck Up the economy do you think someone should have changed it?

Yeah, someone should have changed it...like your liberal Congress, and your liberal Senate for the last 2 years...but they did nothing. This is the period that things took the down turn. If your going to point the blame lets go with all politicians. Don't just pick and choose your party.

 

[Chris]

He did his job as did Gramm , leach and Bliely.

Clinton desided to sign it Gramm desided to write it and worked for over a decade to get it passed.

Now it turned out Clinton and Gramm as well as anyone who voted for it was wrong about its effects on the economy.

Once it was appearent that it was going to Fuck Up the economy do you think someone should have changed it?

Yeah, someone should have changed it...like your liberal Congress, and your liberal Senate for the last 2 years...but they did nothing. This is the period that things took the down turn. If your going to point the blame lets go with all politicians. Don't just pick and choose your party.

Deregualtion is to blame.

Reregulation is the fix.

Put up the firewalls, so it doesn't happen again.

Pretty simple really.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

He did his job as did Gramm , leach and Bliely.

Clinton desided to sign it Gramm desided to write it and worked for over a decade to get it passed.

Now it turned out Clinton and Gramm as well as anyone who voted for it was wrong about its effects on the economy.

Once it was appearent that it was going to Fuck Up the economy do you think someone should have changed it?

Yeah, someone should have changed it...like your liberal Congress, and your liberal Senate for the last 2 years...but they did nothing. This is the period that things took the down turn. If your going to point the blame lets go with all politicians. Don't just pick and choose your party.

Deregualtion is to blame.

Reregulation is the fix.

Put up the firewalls, so it doesn't happen again.

Pretty simple really.

And when it happens all over again, then what? More regulation? More tampering with the market?

 

[Gunny]

What Is Congress Stimulating?

Best I can tell, their own prostates is about all ...

 

[Annie]

What Is Congress Stimulating?

Best I can tell, their own prostates is about all ...

Do you think they awake often during the night?

 

[DiveCon]

Sure they can if they stick to reality and facts.

LOL what a fucking joke
you dont even know reality
you do nothing but lie

 

[RodISHI]

The FBI and SEC shouldn't get more money for failing to catch fraud. The SEC at least should be abolished because it obviously doesn't work, and we shouldn't waste more money in an attempt to make them worthwhile.

New day new deal. If they are not doing their job then the people better get some new ones in there.

Fact is the FBI has been underfunded. If they had the resources they would have been better equipped to take on the fraud that has run rampant through the business world.

I am all for spending that almighty dollar on getting the real crooks into jails or at the very least at a minimum under house arrest.


Heck if we can spend trillions to supposedly contain Isalmic terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan we can also spend a few billion here at home to contain one of the reasons many of these terrorist groups grew by leaps and bounds over the past twenty years hating Americans (greed).

 

[Chris]

Abolish Homeland Security and give their money to the FBI.

 

[RodISHI]

Abolish Homeland Security and give their money to the FBI.

Why, what would be the specific purpose of not having the two seperate agencies?

 

[DiveCon]

Abolish Homeland Security and give their money to the FBI.

where were you when the dems in congress were pushing the creation of homeland securoity and Bush was against it?

 

[Annie]

Abolish Homeland Security and give their money to the FBI.

where were you when the dems in congress were pushing the creation of homeland securoity and Bush was against it?

Indeed, a force through from minority.

 

[Chris]

Abolish Homeland Security and give their money to the FBI.

where were you when the dems in congress were pushing the creation of homeland securoity and Bush was against it?

I wasn't in Congress!

 

[DiveCon]

Abolish Homeland Security and give their money to the FBI.

where were you when the dems in congress were pushing the creation of homeland securoity and Bush was against it?

Indeed, a force through from minority.

actually, at that time, the dems had control of the senate
and at no time was their minority that small