What is a tea-bagger?

[MIPS]

Which leads one to the conclusion that there are often a few fringe lunatics in every legitimate protest movement, huh?

HERE'S your BIG problem MIPS...

Ummm... I'm not the one with a "BIG problem" since you're the one that's complaining about peaceful protests, I have no problem with my fellow citizens peaceably assembling to seek redress of their grievances from their government but apparently YOU DO.

there were NO elected Democrats giving speeches in shadows of those fringe lunatic signs giving legitimacy and credibility to the hatred OF fringe lunatics...

Sheesh... you're a bigger idiot than I thought since you apparently think that a small group of fringe lunatics is emblematic of a VERY LARGE group of people.

Let me ask you this, do objectivity and critical thinking ever intrude into that hyper-partisan world of slogans and hyperbole that you apparently live in?

 

[Foxfyre]

Which leads one to the conclusion that there are often a few fringe lunatics in every legitimate protest movement, huh?

HERE'S your BIG problem MIPS...there were NO elected Democrats giving speeches in shadows of those fringe lunatic signs giving legitimacy and credibility to the hatred OF fringe lunatics...

Do you believe and trust everything you see in Daily Kos or some such site or do you just hunt for the most hateful stuff you can find regardless of its source? I have seen NO signs just as you posted at any Tea Party events I have attended or watched. The very few objectionable signs brought were quickly put away when the organizers requested that they be put away. So far the evidence suggests that almost all of the really hateful stuff is brought by anti-Tea Party people who do their damndest to get in front of the television cameras with their signs.

But because you obviously believer yourself to be an honorable and thoughtful person, please link a 'fringe lunatic' event in which an elected Republican spoke. I would really like to know because such people do need to be voted out.

This isn't exactly the same thing, but what do you think of this passage from Bill Sammon's book?:

This event was in August 2002 before the invasion of Iraq and when President Bush’s approval ratings were still sky high.

George W. Bush stared out the window of his limousine at the largest protest of his presidency. A thousand angry demonstrators—maybe more—were rampaging through the streets of Oregon utterly overwhelming the meager contingent of police trying to restore order. The motorcade was headed directly into a melee so chaotic that the Secret Service could no longer guarantee the president’s safety. Indeed, three minutes before Bush’s limousine was supposed to make its final approach to the hotel, police lost control of Taylor Street altogether. They radioed the Secret Service, frantically directing the motorcade to a secondary route. Furious, the agents swung the president south and tried another approach. But the sophisticated protesters, using scouts with cell phones, got wind of Plan B. They rush to head off Bush before he could penetrate the barricades surrounding the Hilton. Street cops joined in the footrace, hoping to prevent at calamity at Sixth Avenue. The president suddenly understood why his father had nicknamed this city “Little Beirut”.

More than anything, the younger Bush was struck by the virulence of the demonstrators. Although he was accustomed to encountering protests in almost every city he visited, most were perfunctory, half-hearted affairs, largely overshadowed by crowds of exuberant supporters. One almost felt sorry for the protesters, as if they were committing some unfortunate social gaffe. But these Portland protesters were different. They were seething with, well hatred—there was no other word for it. Bush could see it in their contorted faces as they lunged toward the limousine, shrieking at the top of their lungs and extending their middle fingers. They jabbed placards that bore the most vulgar epithets imaginable. . . .

The Protesters seemed to take delight in such in-your-face vulgarity. One of them held a large pho9tograph that had been doctored to depict a gun barrel pressed against the president’s temple. Another waved a sign declared, BUSH: WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE with an X over the word “alive” . . .
--Bill Sammons in his book Misunderestimated – Chapter One: “Rise of the Bush Haters – Page 1 and 2

 

[Bfgrn]

Which leads one to the conclusion that there are often a few fringe lunatics in every legitimate protest movement, huh?

HERE'S your BIG problem MIPS...there were NO elected Democrats giving speeches in shadows of those fringe lunatic signs giving legitimacy and credibility to the hatred OF fringe lunatics...

Do you believe and trust everything you see in Daily Kos or some such site or do you just hunt for the most hateful stuff you can find regardless of its source? I have seen NO signs just as you posted at any Tea Party events I have attended or watched. The very few objectionable signs brought were quickly put away when the organizers requested that they be put away. So far the evidence suggests that almost all of the really hateful stuff is brought by anti-Tea Party people who do their damndest to get in front of the television cameras with their signs.

But because you obviously believer yourself to be an honorable and thoughtful person, please link a 'fringe lunatic' event in which an elected Republican spoke. I would really like to know because such people do need to be voted out.

This isn't exactly the same thing, but what do you think of this passage from Bill Sammon's book?:

This event was in August 2002 before the invasion of Iraq and when President Bush’s approval ratings were still sky high.

George W. Bush stared out the window of his limousine at the largest protest of his presidency. A thousand angry demonstrators—maybe more—were rampaging through the streets of Oregon utterly overwhelming the meager contingent of police trying to restore order. The motorcade was headed directly into a melee so chaotic that the Secret Service could no longer guarantee the president’s safety. Indeed, three minutes before Bush’s limousine was supposed to make its final approach to the hotel, police lost control of Taylor Street altogether. They radioed the Secret Service, frantically directing the motorcade to a secondary route. Furious, the agents swung the president south and tried another approach. But the sophisticated protesters, using scouts with cell phones, got wind of Plan B. They rush to head off Bush before he could penetrate the barricades surrounding the Hilton. Street cops joined in the footrace, hoping to prevent at calamity at Sixth Avenue. The president suddenly understood why his father had nicknamed this city “Little Beirut”.

More than anything, the younger Bush was struck by the virulence of the demonstrators. Although he was accustomed to encountering protests in almost every city he visited, most were perfunctory, half-hearted affairs, largely overshadowed by crowds of exuberant supporters. One almost felt sorry for the protesters, as if they were committing some unfortunate social gaffe. But these Portland protesters were different. They were seething with, well hatred—there was no other word for it. Bush could see it in their contorted faces as they lunged toward the limousine, shrieking at the top of their lungs and extending their middle fingers. They jabbed placards that bore the most vulgar epithets imaginable. . . .

The Protesters seemed to take delight in such in-your-face vulgarity. One of them held a large pho9tograph that had been doctored to depict a gun barrel pressed against the president’s temple. Another waved a sign declared, BUSH: WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE with an X over the word “alive” . . .
--Bill Sammons in his book Misunderestimated – Chapter One: “Rise of the Bush Haters – Page 1 and 2

09.12.09 March on Washington | Agenda

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR SATURDAY’S RALLY:

Dick Armey - FreedomWorks
Matt Kibbe – FreedomWorks
Mason Weaver, San Diego, CA
John Tate, Campaign for Liberty
Rep. Marsha Blackburn (TN)
Jenny Beth Martin, Tea Party Patriots
Darla Dawald, Resistnet.com
Brendan Steinhauser, FreedomWorks
Steve Elliot, Grassfire
Kellen Giuda, Founder of Parcbench.com and the New York City Tea Party
Deneen Borelli, The National Center for Public Policy Research/Project 21
Andrew Langer, Institute for Liberty
Stephen Baldwin and Kevin McCollough, X-Treme Radio
Yaron Brook, Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights
Lloyd Marcus, Tea Party Express
Rev. CL Bryant, Shreveport, Louisiana
Joel Aaron, Atlanta, Georgia
Chris Cassone
James Anderer, entrepreneur
Rep. Tom Price (GA)
Doc Thompson, Richmond, Virginia
Mario Lopez, Hispanic Leadership Fund
Toby Marie Walker, Waco, TX
Andrew Moylan, NTU
Kelly Hoag, Austin, TX
Bruce Bellot
Yvonne Donnelly, The 912 Project
Bruce Webster, Denver, CO
Julian Kulski
Hector V. Barreto, Chairman-The Latino Coalition
Bob Levy, Cato Institute
Ashleigh Kenny, Georgia
Betsy McCaughey, Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths
Greg Harrell, Ohio
Rep. Joel Winters (NH), Free State Project
Martha Zoller, Georgia
Nicole Darland, Xclusive Xpeditions
Rep. Mike Pence (IN)
Richard Mourdock, Indiana State Treasurer
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC)
William Greene, RightMarch.com
State Representative Tom Graves, Georgia

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR FREEDOM PLAZA GATHERING:

Duane Parde, National Taxpayers Union
Hi Caliber, Mr. Conservative (music)
Charles Lollar, Maryland
Nic Lott, Mississippi
Diana Reimer, Pennsylvania Tea Party Patriots
Phillip Dennis, Dallas Tea Party Patriots
Tom Gaitens, Florida
Debbie Dooley, Georgia
Lee Doren, Bureaucrash
Everett Wilkinson, Florida Tea Party Patriots
Angela McGlowan
John O’Hara, Heartland Institute
Toby Walker, Waco Tea Party Patriots
Robin Stublen, Florida
Judy Pepenella, New York
Matt Kibbe, FreedomWorks
Brendan Steinhauser, FreedomWorks
Brian Williams, National Center for Policy Analysis
Sally Oljar, Seattle

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR THURSDAY’S DOCTORS RALLY:

Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA)
Rep. Tom Price (GA)

 

[Foxfyre]

HERE'S your BIG problem MIPS...there were NO elected Democrats giving speeches in shadows of those fringe lunatic signs giving legitimacy and credibility to the hatred OF fringe lunatics...

Do you believe and trust everything you see in Daily Kos or some such site or do you just hunt for the most hateful stuff you can find regardless of its source? I have seen NO signs just as you posted at any Tea Party events I have attended or watched. The very few objectionable signs brought were quickly put away when the organizers requested that they be put away. So far the evidence suggests that almost all of the really hateful stuff is brought by anti-Tea Party people who do their damndest to get in front of the television cameras with their signs.

But because you obviously believer yourself to be an honorable and thoughtful person, please link a 'fringe lunatic' event in which an elected Republican spoke. I would really like to know because such people do need to be voted out.

This isn't exactly the same thing, but what do you think of this passage from Bill Sammon's book?:

This event was in August 2002 before the invasion of Iraq and when President Bush’s approval ratings were still sky high.

George W. Bush stared out the window of his limousine at the largest protest of his presidency. A thousand angry demonstrators—maybe more—were rampaging through the streets of Oregon utterly overwhelming the meager contingent of police trying to restore order. The motorcade was headed directly into a melee so chaotic that the Secret Service could no longer guarantee the president’s safety. Indeed, three minutes before Bush’s limousine was supposed to make its final approach to the hotel, police lost control of Taylor Street altogether. They radioed the Secret Service, frantically directing the motorcade to a secondary route. Furious, the agents swung the president south and tried another approach. But the sophisticated protesters, using scouts with cell phones, got wind of Plan B. They rush to head off Bush before he could penetrate the barricades surrounding the Hilton. Street cops joined in the footrace, hoping to prevent at calamity at Sixth Avenue. The president suddenly understood why his father had nicknamed this city “Little Beirut”.

More than anything, the younger Bush was struck by the virulence of the demonstrators. Although he was accustomed to encountering protests in almost every city he visited, most were perfunctory, half-hearted affairs, largely overshadowed by crowds of exuberant supporters. One almost felt sorry for the protesters, as if they were committing some unfortunate social gaffe. But these Portland protesters were different. They were seething with, well hatred—there was no other word for it. Bush could see it in their contorted faces as they lunged toward the limousine, shrieking at the top of their lungs and extending their middle fingers. They jabbed placards that bore the most vulgar epithets imaginable. . . .

The Protesters seemed to take delight in such in-your-face vulgarity. One of them held a large pho9tograph that had been doctored to depict a gun barrel pressed against the president’s temple. Another waved a sign declared, BUSH: WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE with an X over the word “alive” . . .
--Bill Sammons in his book Misunderestimated – Chapter One: “Rise of the Bush Haters – Page 1 and 2

09.12.09 March on Washington | Agenda

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR SATURDAY’S RALLY:

Dick Armey - FreedomWorks
Matt Kibbe – FreedomWorks
Mason Weaver, San Diego, CA
John Tate, Campaign for Liberty
Rep. Marsha Blackburn (TN)
Jenny Beth Martin, Tea Party Patriots
Darla Dawald, Resistnet.com
Brendan Steinhauser, FreedomWorks
Steve Elliot, Grassfire
Kellen Giuda, Founder of Parcbench.com and the New York City Tea Party
Deneen Borelli, The National Center for Public Policy Research/Project 21
Andrew Langer, Institute for Liberty
Stephen Baldwin and Kevin McCollough, X-Treme Radio
Yaron Brook, Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights
Lloyd Marcus, Tea Party Express
Rev. CL Bryant, Shreveport, Louisiana
Joel Aaron, Atlanta, Georgia
Chris Cassone
James Anderer, entrepreneur
Rep. Tom Price (GA)
Doc Thompson, Richmond, Virginia
Mario Lopez, Hispanic Leadership Fund
Toby Marie Walker, Waco, TX
Andrew Moylan, NTU
Kelly Hoag, Austin, TX
Bruce Bellot
Yvonne Donnelly, The 912 Project
Bruce Webster, Denver, CO
Julian Kulski
Hector V. Barreto, Chairman-The Latino Coalition
Bob Levy, Cato Institute
Ashleigh Kenny, Georgia
Betsy McCaughey, Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths
Greg Harrell, Ohio
Rep. Joel Winters (NH), Free State Project
Martha Zoller, Georgia
Nicole Darland, Xclusive Xpeditions
Rep. Mike Pence (IN)
Richard Mourdock, Indiana State Treasurer
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC)
William Greene, RightMarch.com
State Representative Tom Graves, Georgia

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR FREEDOM PLAZA GATHERING:

Duane Parde, National Taxpayers Union
Hi Caliber, Mr. Conservative (music)
Charles Lollar, Maryland
Nic Lott, Mississippi
Diana Reimer, Pennsylvania Tea Party Patriots
Phillip Dennis, Dallas Tea Party Patriots
Tom Gaitens, Florida
Debbie Dooley, Georgia
Lee Doren, Bureaucrash
Everett Wilkinson, Florida Tea Party Patriots
Angela McGlowan
John O’Hara, Heartland Institute
Toby Walker, Waco Tea Party Patriots
Robin Stublen, Florida
Judy Pepenella, New York
Matt Kibbe, FreedomWorks
Brendan Steinhauser, FreedomWorks
Brian Williams, National Center for Policy Analysis
Sally Oljar, Seattle

CONFIRMED SPEAKERS FOR THURSDAY’S DOCTORS RALLY:

Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA)
Rep. Tom Price (GA)

Well if you want events that people in office speak at, I can list dozens of leftwing groups that Democrat elected officials speak at with the most cursory search, and many of these have quite checkered histories as to whether most Americans consider their activities acceptable. The event you use for illustration was no 'lunatic fringe' event. If you wish to make it one, you're going to have to show a LOT more evidence than one guy holding up a sign. How about showing ALL the signs? Links to ALL the speeches. Post the agenda and emphasis. That would be a good start.

What did you think about the post in which I excerpted what Sammons wrote about a protest group on your side? Were they 'lunatic fringe?'

 

[Gunny]

A Tea Party Pledge and all the talk about our founding father's vision of America is totally lost on this band of white trash.

In simple terms, they're right wing Republicans having a temper tantrum because they were sent packing by We, the people and they face the harsh reality of becoming a minority in the next half century.

In historical terms, they would be called tories, redcoats and lobsterbacks by our founding fathers. Their protests are sponsored by agents OF the modern day East India Companies.

Our founding father's CREATED a government. The tea-baggers and the 'government is the problem' wingnuts are protesting AGAINST the representation our founders fought for in favor of taxation (fees or payments) without representation BY today's East India Companies...United Health Group, WellPoint, Aetna, Humana, Cigna, Health Net, Coventry Health Care, Amerigroup, Universal American, Centene...

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An important milestone in the history of corporations was passed in 1600, when Queen Elizabeth of England granted a charter to the East India Company. The new company enjoyed the relatively new privilege of limited liability: investors would be liable only for the amount they invested in the company, even if total debts exceeded total investments. Limiited liability attracted much greater investment, which was the goal as England strove to create the means to establish colonies and extract wealth from the New World.

Led by the Dutch and British East India companies, corporations gained significant power to shape world trade and transport, the governance of colonies, and even the creation of new laws to benefit their interests - one reason Thomas Hobbes likened them to parasitic worms in the bowels of the body politic in his 1651 political treatise Leviathan.

By 1776, however, one host population was ready to purge its system of parasites. A series of laws, including the Townshend Acts and the Tea Act of 1773-which essentially granted the East India Company a tax-free tea monopoly in the American colonies-helped incite the colonists to revolt against England and form a new republic in which the role of corporations was significantly constrained. In the newly minted United States, state legislatures imposed tight limits on corporations' purposes, the amount of capital they could procure, even how long they could exist. As corporate law expert Robert Hinkley observes, "These restrictions ensured that there was very little corporate abuse of the public interest in this country from the American Revolution to around the time of the Civil War."
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/575

A fag that sucks balls. Next question?

 

[Bfgrn]

A Tea Party Pledge and all the talk about our founding father's vision of America is totally lost on this band of white trash.

In simple terms, they're right wing Republicans having a temper tantrum because they were sent packing by We, the people and they face the harsh reality of becoming a minority in the next half century.

In historical terms, they would be called tories, redcoats and lobsterbacks by our founding fathers. Their protests are sponsored by agents OF the modern day East India Companies.

Our founding father's CREATED a government. The tea-baggers and the 'government is the problem' wingnuts are protesting AGAINST the representation our founders fought for in favor of taxation (fees or payments) without representation BY today's East India Companies...United Health Group, WellPoint, Aetna, Humana, Cigna, Health Net, Coventry Health Care, Amerigroup, Universal American, Centene...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

An important milestone in the history of corporations was passed in 1600, when Queen Elizabeth of England granted a charter to the East India Company. The new company enjoyed the relatively new privilege of limited liability: investors would be liable only for the amount they invested in the company, even if total debts exceeded total investments. Limiited liability attracted much greater investment, which was the goal as England strove to create the means to establish colonies and extract wealth from the New World.

Led by the Dutch and British East India companies, corporations gained significant power to shape world trade and transport, the governance of colonies, and even the creation of new laws to benefit their interests - one reason Thomas Hobbes likened them to parasitic worms in the bowels of the body politic in his 1651 political treatise Leviathan.

By 1776, however, one host population was ready to purge its system of parasites. A series of laws, including the Townshend Acts and the Tea Act of 1773-which essentially granted the East India Company a tax-free tea monopoly in the American colonies-helped incite the colonists to revolt against England and form a new republic in which the role of corporations was significantly constrained. In the newly minted United States, state legislatures imposed tight limits on corporations' purposes, the amount of capital they could procure, even how long they could exist. As corporate law expert Robert Hinkley observes, "These restrictions ensured that there was very little corporate abuse of the public interest in this country from the American Revolution to around the time of the Civil War."
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/575

A fag that sucks balls. Next question?

You would know from experience

 

[Liability]

A Tea Party Pledge and all the talk about our founding father's vision of America is totally lost on this band of white trash.

In simple terms, they're right wing Republicans having a temper tantrum because they were sent packing by We, the people and they face the harsh reality of becoming a minority in the next half century.

In historical terms, they would be called tories, redcoats and lobsterbacks by our founding fathers. Their protests are sponsored by agents OF the modern day East India Companies.

Our founding father's CREATED a government. The tea-baggers and the 'government is the problem' wingnuts are protesting AGAINST the representation our founders fought for in favor of taxation (fees or payments) without representation BY today's East India Companies...United Health Group, WellPoint, Aetna, Humana, Cigna, Health Net, Coventry Health Care, Amerigroup, Universal American, Centene...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

An important milestone in the history of corporations was passed in 1600, when Queen Elizabeth of England granted a charter to the East India Company. The new company enjoyed the relatively new privilege of limited liability: investors would be liable only for the amount they invested in the company, even if total debts exceeded total investments. Limiited liability attracted much greater investment, which was the goal as England strove to create the means to establish colonies and extract wealth from the New World.

Led by the Dutch and British East India companies, corporations gained significant power to shape world trade and transport, the governance of colonies, and even the creation of new laws to benefit their interests - one reason Thomas Hobbes likened them to parasitic worms in the bowels of the body politic in his 1651 political treatise Leviathan.

By 1776, however, one host population was ready to purge its system of parasites. A series of laws, including the Townshend Acts and the Tea Act of 1773-which essentially granted the East India Company a tax-free tea monopoly in the American colonies-helped incite the colonists to revolt against England and form a new republic in which the role of corporations was significantly constrained. In the newly minted United States, state legislatures imposed tight limits on corporations' purposes, the amount of capital they could procure, even how long they could exist. As corporate law expert Robert Hinkley observes, "These restrictions ensured that there was very little corporate abuse of the public interest in this country from the American Revolution to around the time of the Civil War."
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/575

A fag that sucks balls. Next question?

You would know from experience

You tried to suck gunny's balls?

Wow, you really ARE a sick fuck.

 

[JimH52]

Tea baggers like to shout at public meetings, carry offensive signs, and basically say NO! to everything...wait...that might be the Republican Party.....ooops

 

[Yukon]

You people disgust me.