What is a Chickenhawk?

[ginscpy]

Gingrich had valid reasons for getting a deferment during Nam. (married)

So did Dick Cheney - health issues.

Biden got deferments also.

Clinton didnt have any reason for evading the draft.

 

[konradv]

Gingrich had valid reasons for getting a deferment during Nam. (married)

So did Dick Cheney - health issues.

Biden got deferments also.

Clinton didnt have any reason for evading the draft.

Well, first they have to be hawks, don't they? Presidents have to do things as CinC, but I've never heard Clinton referred to as a hawk

 

[jillian]

Gingrich had valid reasons for getting a deferment during Nam. (married)

So did Dick Cheney - health issues.

Biden got deferments also.

Clinton didnt have any reason for evading the draft.

Well, first they have to be hawks, don't they? Presidents have to do things as CinC, but I've never heard Clinton referred to as a hawk

because he isn't one.

 

[Douger]

Gingrich had valid reasons for getting a deferment during Nam. (married)

So did Dick Cheney - health issues.

Biden got deferments also.

Clinton didnt have any reason for evading the draft.

Other than die for a lie...............

 

[editec]

What is a Chickenhawk?

Yeah, right like you don't know personally.

 

[SayMyName]

Having served in the military and being a life long Republican, the term "Chicken Hawk" always referred to someone who spoke a good line about going to war, but had never served themselves, regardless the reason that they never went.

 

[FuelRod]

 

[Warrior102]

Gingrich had valid reasons for getting a deferment during Nam. (married)

So did Dick Cheney - health issues.

Biden got deferments also.

Clinton didnt have any reason for evading the draft.

Obama is a good example of a Chickenhawk, as well as a warmonger.

 

[Dragon]

Obama was never called on to serve and therefore cannot be a chickenhawk.

The term arose in connection with Vietnam. The reason being that Vietnam was such a controversial war, fought with draftees, and an issue that divided the generation of an age to fight it. Many of us were against the war. Many of us were for it. To be for it and go to fight in it was one thing -- wrong-headed but honorable. But to be for it only if someone else had to do the fighting and bleeding was something else again. The term "chickenhawk" was invented to describe such a person.

I don't think Cheney was of draft age, so he doesn't count. George W. Bush definitely does, though: the National Guard, and especially the Air Guard, was one of those "outs" provided for the young and well-connected. As the son of a rich man and a Congressman, Bush had escape hatches that many did not. There was of course nothing illegal about this (although there should have been), but his willingness to make use of such an escape hatch while at the same time favoring the war and condemning those opposed to it brands him as a chickenhawk.

There were so many ways that well-connected people could obtain draft deferments that "legitimate" reasons existing mean nothing -- the question is, if you believed in the war, were you willing to do your duty (as you saw it, or should have) and serve? Or did you only seek to make others do so while you stayed home safe?

 

[Warrior102]

Obama was never called on to serve and therefore cannot be a chickenhawk.

The term arose in connection with Vietnam. The reason being that Vietnam was such a controversial war, fought with draftees, and an issue that divided the generation of an age to fight it. Many of us were against the war. Many of us were for it. To be for it and go to fight in it was one thing -- wrong-headed but honorable. But to be for it only if someone else had to do the fighting and bleeding was something else again. The term "chickenhawk" was invented to describe such a person.

I don't think Cheney was of draft age, so he doesn't count. George W. Bush definitely does, though: the National Guard, and especially the Air Guard, was one of those "outs" provided for the young and well-connected. As the son of a rich man and a Congressman, Bush had escape hatches that many did not. There was of course nothing illegal about this (although there should have been), but his willingness to make use of such an escape hatch while at the same time favoring the war and condemning those opposed to it brands him as a chickenhawk.

There were so many ways that well-connected people could obtain draft deferments that "legitimate" reasons existing mean nothing -- the question is, if you believed in the war, were you willing to do your duty (as you saw it, or should have) and serve? Or did you only seek to make others do so while you stayed home safe?

You don't need to be "called" to serve, asswipe. You need to sit in the Oval Office and bomb the living shit out of the world having never served your country/been in harm's way and make executive decision's from the golf course. And of course salute Marines when you step off of Marine 1 on the south lawn and act as if they have one shred of respect for you.

I served for 24 years- volunteered to do so.
When/where did you serve?
Or are you a fucking Chickenhawk too?

 

[Colin]

What is a Chickenhawk?

A sabre-rattling armchair warrior who advocates going to war, yet has never served nor has any intention of serving. You 'll often find them posting in threads on Iran or the Middle East in general.

 

[Warrior102]

What is a Chickenhawk?

A sabre-rattling armchair warrior who advocates going to war, yet has never served nor has any intention of serving. You 'll often find them posting in threads on Iran or the Middle East in general.

You'll often find them in the White House too - like Clinton, Obama.

 

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[Care4all]

a chicken HAWK to me is a person who is on the war war war bandwagon, who sits in an arm chair and has always sat in an arm chair, and never had to serve or do duty, on the war front lines.

 

[uscitizen]

Chickenhawks also generally serve and are served by the MIC.

 

[Douger]

Generally speaking they often own and fly numerous flags bought at Walmart and think a Harley is a quality motorcycle.
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[theHawk]

Gingrich had valid reasons for getting a deferment during Nam. (married)

So did Dick Cheney - health issues.

Biden got deferments also.

Clinton didnt have any reason for evading the draft.

Well, first they have to be hawks, don't they? Presidents have to do things as CinC, but I've never heard Clinton referred to as a hawk

because he isn't one.

Well of course not, because he is a Democrat. Even though he took us to war in Bosnia. Funny how that works. If a Repub uses troops in combat, he is a "hawk" but if a Dem does, like Obama did in Libya, they aren't hawks.

 

[Article 15]

What is a Chickenhawk?.

 

[Old Rocks]

What is a Chickenhawk?

A sabre-rattling armchair warrior who advocates going to war, yet has never served nor has any intention of serving. You 'll often find them posting in threads on Iran or the Middle East in general.

You'll often find them in the White House too - like Clinton, Obama.

Oh get off it, you dumb shit. Didn't you learn anything in 24 years? Cheney and Bush were classic chickenhawks, used lies to start wars when they both avoided serving in the war that was going on when they could have served.

And before you say it, this old liberal voluteered, and was on base and in uniform when we stopped those Soviet off Cuba.

And that, and few dollars will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, first they have to be hawks, don't they? Presidents have to do things as CinC, but I've never heard Clinton referred to as a hawk

because he isn't one.

Well of course not, because he is a Democrat. Even though he took us to war in Bosnia. Funny how that works. If a Repub uses troops in combat, he is a "hawk" but if a Dem does, like Obama did in Libya, they aren't hawks.

How many of our sons and daughters did we lose in Bosnia and Libya? How much did each of those 'wars' cost?

You assholes are pathetic in trying to deflect the just critisism of your chickenhawk leaders. Ike would have held both Bush and Cheney in utter contempt as shirkers and idiots.