What If?

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    When RR took office in 1980 we were in trouble, not as bad as 08, but we were headed there
    In 8 years we were on a roll that lasted until 2008 in all reality

    Same with in the year 2000 to some extent especially after the Nasdaq bubble, 9-11 along with the 1000s of Enrons that collapsed towards the end of 2001
    (see Calpine as an example also)
    From 03 to the middle of 07 we had a very good run again

    What if in 2008 we had a GWB?
    a RR?

    GWB did not cause the credit bubble and as far as I am concerned no politician really did. If real estate value remained hi, there would have never been a problem

    We are using the "not-in" numbers to show we are having job growth, there is some but it is very little
    mostly in Texas, La, Oklahoma, ND, SD, little any where else

    At this time we have 88 million people in the not in work force and it has grown over 2 million people in 1 year
    Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age

    What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
    What is? Where would we be?
    We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

    What if?
     
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    The Bush SEC held back the Broker rules for 7 long years that were supposed to be implimented when the GLB act was written into law.

    GUESSS who got to hire and train whomever they wanted to sell mortgage securities during the gap?
     
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    SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
    Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    2007-190
    Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.
     
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    why did they do that?
     
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    How fucking many times do you have to be told the facts before they soak into that disgruntled brain of yours?
     
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    We elected a POTUS who never ran so much as a Bake Sale in his life.

    It shows.
     
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    The question in reality is for the first time in recent history we have failed to recover from an economic event
    would we be were we are with a different white house?
     
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    We are growing you fool.

    THAT is a fact.

    the reason the crash happened is that the bbanks could write the shit assed loans and then DUMP them on an unsuspecting Mortgage securities market.


    That was DONE ON PURPOSE BY BUSH
     
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    SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
    Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    2007-190
    Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.




    THis is a government document you disgruntled brain fool.

    You can not deny it happened
     

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