When RR took office in 1980 we were in trouble, not as bad as 08, but we were headed there In 8 years we were on a roll that lasted until 2008 in all reality Same with in the year 2000 to some extent especially after the Nasdaq bubble, 9-11 along with the 1000s of Enrons that collapsed towards the end of 2001 (see Calpine as an example also) From 03 to the middle of 07 we had a very good run again What if in 2008 we had a GWB? a RR? GWB did not cause the credit bubble and as far as I am concerned no politician really did. If real estate value remained hi, there would have never been a problem We are using the "not-in" numbers to show we are having job growth, there is some but it is very little mostly in Texas, La, Oklahoma, ND, SD, little any where else At this time we have 88 million people in the not in work force and it has grown over 2 million people in 1 year Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age What if? Where would we be today with a center right President? What is? Where would we be? We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense What if?