What If?

[JRK]

When RR took office in 1980 we were in trouble, not as bad as 08, but we were headed there
In 8 years we were on a roll that lasted until 2008 in all reality

Same with in the year 2000 to some extent especially after the Nasdaq bubble, 9-11 along with the 1000s of Enrons that collapsed towards the end of 2001
(see Calpine as an example also)
From 03 to the middle of 07 we had a very good run again

What if in 2008 we had a GWB?
a RR?

GWB did not cause the credit bubble and as far as I am concerned no politician really did. If real estate value remained hi, there would have never been a problem

We are using the "not-in" numbers to show we are having job growth, there is some but it is very little
mostly in Texas, La, Oklahoma, ND, SD, little any where else

At this time we have 88 million people in the not in work force and it has grown over 2 million people in 1 year
Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age

What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
What is? Where would we be?
We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

What if?

 

[Truthmatters]

The Bush SEC held back the Broker rules for 7 long years that were supposed to be implimented when the GLB act was written into law.

GUESSS who got to hire and train whomever they wanted to sell mortgage securities during the gap?

 

[Truthmatters]

SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

 

[Truthmatters]

why did they do that?

 

[Truthmatters]

How fucking many times do you have to be told the facts before they soak into that disgruntled brain of yours?

 

[SniperFire]

What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
What is? Where would we be?
We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

What if?

We elected a POTUS who never ran so much as a Bake Sale in his life.

It shows.

 

[JRK]

What does that have to do with the events of the last 40+ months?
The question has nothing to do with the 25+ years of 5% UE, it has to do with the 40 months of +8% UE with the not in number being the very reason it is over 9%
Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age
what if?

 

[JRK]

The question in reality is for the first time in recent history we have failed to recover from an economic event
would we be were we are with a different white house?

 

[Truthmatters]

We are growing you fool.

THAT is a fact.

the reason the crash happened is that the bbanks could write the shit assed loans and then DUMP them on an unsuspecting Mortgage securities market.


That was DONE ON PURPOSE BY BUSH

 

[Truthmatters]

SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.




THis is a government document you disgruntled brain fool.

You can not deny it happened

 

[asaratis]

Over a period of time here, I have learned that the sight of Truthmatter's avatar is reason enough to avoid a thread if one expects sensible, honest debate.

What a partisan dickweed hack!

Carry on!

 

[Truthmatters]

how many more times will I have to show you these FACTS??????

 

[Truthmatters]

Over a period of time here, I have learned that the sight of Truthmatter's avatar is reason enough to avoid a thread if one expects sensible, honest debate.

What a partisan dickweed hack!

Carry on!

Explain what this government realsed document means in your own words?

 

[JRK]

SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

Would you explain to us what any of this has to do with the events of the last 40 months?
Would we have had the same collapse in 2001 as we had in 2008?
Do we re-elect the ideals and policies that have failed?
We have added over 1 trillion dollars to what we spent in 2007 in 2010
Do we feel that a job growth that is driven more by people leaving the work force than really creating jobs?
Texas
La
Oklahoma
ND
SD
there creating jobs
In all reality no-one else is
I leave tomorrow to drive 1600 miles to very northern tip of Texas to work
Is this our future?






THis is a government document you disgruntled brain fool.

You can not deny it happened

Would you explain to us what any of this has to do with the events of the last 40 months?
Would we have had the same collapse in 2001 as we had in 2008?
Do we re-elect the ideals and policies that have failed?
We have added over 1 trillion dollars to what we spent in 2007 in 2010
Do we feel that a job growth that is driven more by people leaving the work force than really creating jobs?
Texas
La
Oklahoma
ND
SD
there creating jobs
In all reality no-one else is
I leave tomorrow to drive 1600 miles to very northern tip of Texas to work
Is this our future?

 

[MikeK]

What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
What is? Where would we be?
We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

What if?

We elected a POTUS who never ran so much as a Bake Sale in his life.

It shows.

And before him came an appointed nitwit who was (is) a brain-damaged alcoholic, drug-addicted ne'er-do-well elitist fop who nearly wrecked the economy and is widely regarded as the worst president in modern history. Compared to that Obama's lack of business experience doesn't seem so bad. Does it?

 

[Truthmatters]

When RR took office in 1980 we were in trouble, not as bad as 08, but we were headed there
In 8 years we were on a roll that lasted until 2008 in all reality

Same with in the year 2000 to some extent especially after the Nasdaq bubble, 9-11 along with the 1000s of Enrons that collapsed towards the end of 2001
(see Calpine as an example also)
From 03 to the middle of 07 we had a very good run again

What if in 2008 we had a GWB?
a RR?

GWB did not cause the credit bubble and as far as I am concerned no politician really did. If real estate value remained hi, there would have never been a problem

We are using the "not-in" numbers to show we are having job growth, there is some but it is very little
mostly in Texas, La, Oklahoma, ND, SD, little any where else

At this time we have 88 million people in the not in work force and it has grown over 2 million people in 1 year
Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age

What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
What is? Where would we be?
We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

What if?

You have no idea what you are talking about

 

[nodoginnafight]

what if JRK was introduced to reality?

 

[Truthmatters]

He would willing to stop lying

 

[candycorn]

When RR took office in 1980 we were in trouble, not as bad as 08, but we were headed there
In 8 years we were on a roll that lasted until 2008 in all reality

Same with in the year 2000 to some extent especially after the Nasdaq bubble, 9-11 along with the 1000s of Enrons that collapsed towards the end of 2001
(see Calpine as an example also)
From 03 to the middle of 07 we had a very good run again

What if in 2008 we had a GWB?
a RR?

GWB did not cause the credit bubble and as far as I am concerned no politician really did. If real estate value remained hi, there would have never been a problem

We are using the "not-in" numbers to show we are having job growth, there is some but it is very little
mostly in Texas, La, Oklahoma, ND, SD, little any where else

At this time we have 88 million people in the not in work force and it has grown over 2 million people in 1 year
Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age

What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
What is? Where would we be?
We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

What if?

Prediction: This will be another 200+ posts of blah blah blah by the time the thread is finished. What if you were to let someone else get the last word; just once.

PS: We didn't find WMDs in Iraq.

 

[JRK]

What if? Where would we be today with a center right President?
What is? Where would we be?
We created 40 million jobs in those years until 2008, we have created 0 sense

What if?

We elected a POTUS who never ran so much as a Bake Sale in his life.

It shows.

And before him came an appointed nitwit who was (is) a brain-damaged alcoholic, drug-addicted ne'er-do-well elitist fop who nearly wrecked the economy and is widely regarded as the worst president in modern history. Compared to that Obama's lack of business experience doesn't seem so bad. Does it?

That "nitwit" created millions of jobs
That "nitwit" took 9-11, Enron(s) And the Nasdaq bubble and turned it own its nose in 24 months
2000...... 131,785 110,995 24,649 599 6,787 17,263
2001...... 131,826 110,708 23,873 606 6,826 16,441
2002...... 130,341 108,828 22,557 583 6,716 15,259
2003...... 129,999 108,416 21,816 572 6,735 14,509
2004...... 131,435 109,814 21,882 591 6,976 14,315
2005...... 133,703 111,899 22,190 628 7,336 14,227
2006...... 136,086 114,113 22,530 684 7,691 14,155
2007...... 137,598 115,380 22,233 724 7,630 13,879
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,335 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,558 694 6,016 11,847

2010...... 129,874 107,384 17,751 705 5,518 11,528
2011...... 131,359 109,254 18,021 784 5,504 11,733
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
As you can see the close to 2 million jobs lost in the first 24 months of GWB time in office was stopped and turned to job creation
Why would it be different today?
Thats the question is it not?