What if the Arabs had recognized Israel in 1948?

[Mindful]

Now, the Palestinians are on their own; each Arab country is busy with its own crisis and has put the Palestinian-Israeli conflict on hold.

I have been exposed to Palestinians since I was in first grade in Al- Hassa, Saudi Arabia. They were the most dedicated and intelligent among all my instructors, from elementary to high school. When I was attending New York-based SUNY Maritime college (1975-1979), I read a lot of books about Palestinians, Arabs and the Israelis. I have read every article about the many chances the Palestinians missed to solve their problem, especially the Camp David agreement between Egypt and Israel. I have seen and read about the lives of Palestinians in the US and other places. They are very successful in every field.

At the same time, I saw the Arab countries at the bottom of the list in education and development. And I ask the question: What if the Palestinians and Arabs accepted Israel on May 14, 1948 and recognized its right to exist? Would the Arab world have been more stable, more democratic and more advanced? If Israel were recognized in 1948, the Palestinians would have been able to free themselves from the hollow promises of Arab dictators who kept telling them the refugees would be back in their homes, all Arab lands would be liberated and Israel would be sent to the bottom of the sea. Some Arab leaders used the Palestinians to suppress their own people and stay in power

What if the Arabs had recognized Israel in 1948?

 

[Mindful]

>> If Israel were recognized in 1948, there would have been no need for a coup in Egypt against King Farouk in 1952 and there would have been no attack on Egypt in 1956 by the UK, France and Israel. Also, there would have been no war in June 1967, and the size of Israel would not have increased and we Arabs would not have the need for a UN resolution to beg Israel to go back to the pre-1967 borders. And no war of attrition between Egypt and Israel that caused more casualties on the Egyptian side than the Israeli side.

After the 1967 war, Israel became a strategic ally of the US. Before then, the US was not as close to Israel as some in the Arab world believe. The Israelis fought that war using mainly French and British weapons while the US administration refused to supply Israel with more modern aircraft and weapons systems, such as the F-4 Phantom.

Palestinian misery was also used to topple another stable monarchy, this time in Iraq, and replace it with a bloody dictatorship. Iraq is rich in minerals, water reserves, fertile land and archeological sites. The military, led by Abdul Karim Qassim, killed King Faisal II and his family. Bloodshed in Iraq continued, and this Arab country has seen more violent revolutions.

One of them was carried out in the 1960s by a brigade sent to help liberate Palestine. Instead it went back and took over Baghdad.

Years later, Saddam Hussein said he would liberate Jerusalem via Kuwait; he used Palestinian misery as an excuse to invade that country.<<

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I say take the hand cuffs off. If Hamas and Fatah want Israel let em try and take it and see what happens.

 

[Indeependent]

Israel’s official policy is no more defensive military action.

 

[Mindful]

Is Hezbollah still hanging around?

 

[Indeependent]

Is Hezbollah still hanging around?

Israel has them on MOAB alert.

 

[teddyearp]

I agree. The Arab world has done much much more harm to the Palestinian cause than Israel ever has.

 

[Mindful]

Begs the question, why they didn't take the deal in 1947. After all, they got most of the Mandate, Jordan, which had been originally been earmarked for the Jews.

 

[BlackFlag]

Now, the Palestinians are on their own; each Arab country is busy with its own crisis and has put the Palestinian-Israeli conflict on hold.

I have been exposed to Palestinians since I was in first grade in Al- Hassa, Saudi Arabia. They were the most dedicated and intelligent among all my instructors, from elementary to high school. When I was attending New York-based SUNY Maritime college (1975-1979), I read a lot of books about Palestinians, Arabs and the Israelis. I have read every article about the many chances the Palestinians missed to solve their problem, especially the Camp David agreement between Egypt and Israel. I have seen and read about the lives of Palestinians in the US and other places. They are very successful in every field.

At the same time, I saw the Arab countries at the bottom of the list in education and development. And I ask the question: What if the Palestinians and Arabs accepted Israel on May 14, 1948 and recognized its right to exist? Would the Arab world have been more stable, more democratic and more advanced? If Israel were recognized in 1948, the Palestinians would have been able to free themselves from the hollow promises of Arab dictators who kept telling them the refugees would be back in their homes, all Arab lands would be liberated and Israel would be sent to the bottom of the sea. Some Arab leaders used the Palestinians to suppress their own people and stay in power

What if the Arabs had recognized Israel in 1948?

I think yes, it would certainly be more stable if Palestinians had done that. It would be more stable if the UN hadn't created Israel in that spot, too.

 

[Mindful]

Now, the Palestinians are on their own; each Arab country is busy with its own crisis and has put the Palestinian-Israeli conflict on hold.

I have been exposed to Palestinians since I was in first grade in Al- Hassa, Saudi Arabia. They were the most dedicated and intelligent among all my instructors, from elementary to high school. When I was attending New York-based SUNY Maritime college (1975-1979), I read a lot of books about Palestinians, Arabs and the Israelis. I have read every article about the many chances the Palestinians missed to solve their problem, especially the Camp David agreement between Egypt and Israel. I have seen and read about the lives of Palestinians in the US and other places. They are very successful in every field.

At the same time, I saw the Arab countries at the bottom of the list in education and development. And I ask the question: What if the Palestinians and Arabs accepted Israel on May 14, 1948 and recognized its right to exist? Would the Arab world have been more stable, more democratic and more advanced? If Israel were recognized in 1948, the Palestinians would have been able to free themselves from the hollow promises of Arab dictators who kept telling them the refugees would be back in their homes, all Arab lands would be liberated and Israel would be sent to the bottom of the sea. Some Arab leaders used the Palestinians to suppress their own people and stay in power

What if the Arabs had recognized Israel in 1948?

I think yes, it would certainly be more stable if Palestinians had done that. It would be more stable if the UN hadn't created Israel in that spot, too.

Israel's fault? That old canard?

Bearing in mind the Jews settled for far less than had been promised them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Begs the question, why they didn't take the deal in 1947. After all, they got most of the Mandate, Jordan, which had been originally been earmarked for the Jews.

Begs the question, why they didn't take the deal in 1947.

For the same reason they still whine about getting kicked out of Spain.
Muzzie land is Muzzie land forever.

 

[teddyearp]

Begs the question, why they didn't take the deal in 1947. After all, they got most of the Mandate, Jordan, which had been originally been earmarked for the Jews.

And now the Arabs squeal and scream and blow themselves up and drive cars and trucks and shoot people in synagogue and the Temple Mount everytime Israel tries to defend herself and/or get some back.

No matter what happens now, the Arabs still are going to come out way ahead of what was originally promised to the Jews.

 

[BlackFlag]

Israel's fault? That old canard?

I said UN, not Israel.

Bearing in mind the Jews settled for far less than had been promised them.

Beggars can't be choosers.

 

[Mindful]

Israel's fault? That old canard?

I said UN, not Israel.

Bearing in mind the Jews settled for far less than had been promised them.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Can't you come up with something better than that?

 

[USAF 2023]

Israel's fault? That old canard?

I said UN, not Israel.

Bearing in mind the Jews settled for far less than had been promised them.

Beggars can't be choosers.

I agree. The Palestinians cant be choosers

 

[USAF 2023]

If they did then Gaza,the W.Bank and E. Jerusalem would not have FORMALLY become part of Egypt and Jordan
Jordan was supposed to allow the Israelis have access to E. Jerusalem. Of course this didn’t happen.

 

[Mindful]

Israel's fault? That old canard?

I said UN, not Israel.

Bearing in mind the Jews settled for far less than had been promised them.

Beggars can't be choosers.

I agree. The Palestinians cant be choosers

And if the European Jews were poor, it's because they were robbed blind by the Germans; 30% of the spoils going towards funding the German War Effort.