What if..........................Romney picked Ron Paul

I'm pretty sure Ron Paul would decline. He actually believes in what he says, and wont compromise that much to join Romney's administration.

Two ways to look at that and 1 is - if he cares about his cause that much, he would make sacrifices necessary to advance it.
 
especially if you used to vote republican :redface::lol:

What is it about Paul you don't like, just out of curiosity?

he lives in a fantasy world

That we can be a prosperous society while still maximizing our personal liberty?

I can understand why when you take slices of his platform and study only those slices, he can seem crazy to some people, but overall the guy just wants people to be individually free to pursue their happiness each in their own way, at their own expense and no one else's.

I don't really see what's so horrible about that at the end of the day.
 
I understand that he's not likely to choose RP as his VP - but *if* he did, I'd say that what would have been a close race for President with Obama likely beating him if the Economy continues to improve - turns into a new President in office.

If Romney takes all of these die hard Republicans, the I's that don't want Obama and combines that with Ron Paul's cult like following? It would equal success in numbers.

No. Ron Paul will not follow Mitt Romneys lead. In 20+ years he has never taken que from a corporate liberal and he isnt going to start now.

Its Ron Paul or its Obama. Its freedom or its fascism. Its conservatism and smaller government or its socialism and a failed state.

No more compromise. No more excuses. No more government.
 
What is it about Paul you don't like, just out of curiosity?

he lives in a fantasy world

That we can be a prosperous society while still maximizing our personal liberty?

I can understand why when you take slices of his platform and study only those slices, he can seem crazy to some people, but overall the guy just wants people to be individually free to pursue their happiness each in their own way, at their own expense and no one else's.

I don't really see what's so horrible about that at the end of the day.

there's nothing horrible about it; there's even less that's realistic about it.
 
he lives in a fantasy world

That we can be a prosperous society while still maximizing our personal liberty?

I can understand why when you take slices of his platform and study only those slices, he can seem crazy to some people, but overall the guy just wants people to be individually free to pursue their happiness each in their own way, at their own expense and no one else's.

I don't really see what's so horrible about that at the end of the day.

there's nothing horrible about it; there's even less that's realistic about it.

So we should just give up on fighting for our freedom back from an overreaching government and just accept that we're going to incrementally lose more and more no matter what, so just pick candidates who "can win"?

I'd expat before I ever settled for that.
 
That we can be a prosperous society while still maximizing our personal liberty?

I can understand why when you take slices of his platform and study only those slices, he can seem crazy to some people, but overall the guy just wants people to be individually free to pursue their happiness each in their own way, at their own expense and no one else's.

I don't really see what's so horrible about that at the end of the day.

there's nothing horrible about it; there's even less that's realistic about it.

So we should just give up on fighting for our freedom back from an overreaching government and just accept that we're going to incrementally lose more and more no matter what, so just pick candidates who "can win"?

I'd expat before I ever settled for that.

candidates who lose don't accomplish much
 
One good thing about being a Massachusetts voter is you can almost always leave the President election area of the ballot blank guilt free.

especially if you used to vote republican :redface::lol:

I used to vote Republican. Then I got out of the military and took my first steps into the political arena other than just voting to say how I really felt about Iraq. The reaction I got from a lot of Republicans then, and my observations on where that party has trended since, makes me never want to associate myself with that party again.

You're still cool though.

What turned me off about the right in those days was the whole smearing of anyone who disagreed with the wars as "terrorist sympathizers/lovers, etc."

I thought it was criminally distasteful and it was widespread @ the time I'm talking abo0ot.
 
there's nothing horrible about it; there's even less that's realistic about it.

So we should just give up on fighting for our freedom back from an overreaching government and just accept that we're going to incrementally lose more and more no matter what, so just pick candidates who "can win"?

I'd expat before I ever settled for that.

candidates who lose don't accomplish much

You trust a candidate like Romney to accomplish the important issues of the right?

When was the last time the ideals of conservatism had any kind of accomplishment at the federal level? Even the tea party candidates voted in majority for the NDAA.

Voting for a winner is one thing, being able to trust them is a whole other issue.
 
So we should just give up on fighting for our freedom back from an overreaching government and just accept that we're going to incrementally lose more and more no matter what, so just pick candidates who "can win"?

I'd expat before I ever settled for that.

candidates who lose don't accomplish much

You trust a candidate like Romney to accomplish the important issues of the right?

When was the last time the ideals of conservatism had any kind of accomplishment at the federal level? Even the tea party candidates voted in majority for the NDAA.

Voting for a winner is one thing, being able to trust them is a whole other issue.

The NDAA also didn't contain the hysteria that many people blew it up as containing either though.
 
candidates who lose don't accomplish much

You trust a candidate like Romney to accomplish the important issues of the right?

When was the last time the ideals of conservatism had any kind of accomplishment at the federal level? Even the tea party candidates voted in majority for the NDAA.

Voting for a winner is one thing, being able to trust them is a whole other issue.

The NDAA also didn't contain the hysteria that many people blew it up as containing either though.

The vague wording is the most worrisome. If it simply said "this DOES NOT and WILL NOT apply to any US citizen", then there would be no fuss.

But it doesn't. It's open ended.

The very idea that our own government is designating our soil as a "battlefield" is just nuts.
 
I doubt that will happen.

Ron Paul threatens not only the Democratic masters, but he seriously threatens the GOP masters, too.

I'd also be surprise, and somewhat disapointed, too if Ron Paul accepted that offer.
 
I doubt that will happen.

Ron Paul threatens not only the Democratic masters, but he seriously threatens the GOP masters, too.

I'd also be surprise, and somewhat disapointed, too if Ron Paul accepted that offer.

I can't imagine he would.

Try to picture him stumping for Romney every day for a few months.
 
I doubt that will happen.

Ron Paul threatens not only the Democratic masters, but he seriously threatens the GOP masters, too.

I'd also be surprise, and somewhat disapointed, too if Ron Paul accepted that offer.

It wouldn't be an offer. This whole situation will only exist in the event that Paul secures enough delegates to shut Romney out of clinching.

It's anyone's guess what Paul would demand in that situation. I consider myself to about as educated about Paul as it gets, I've been studying and scrutinizing the guy since 2005. He is what singlehandedly rid me of my political apathy and got me interested in what's going on in my country other than where the next wild party was at. I credit the man for helping me grow the fuck up, basically.

This being said, I still can't say I have any idea what Paul's goal is if not to win. He knows he's up against almost insurmountable odds, but he's somebody now, and he's got probably the best chance at challenging Romney all the way to the end.

I know he wouldn't trust the establishment to come through on just promises of platform changes in exchange for his delegates, though. I honestly don't know what will happen.
 
Ron Paul wouldn't accept and has pretty much said so, I saw an interview where he was asked and he said he wouldn't. It was on youtube but I can't look for it now.

He really wants to win and there is still an outside chance that he can. He may have enough pull after this race to help get Rand into position to win in the future. Ultimately his ideas are influencing the party already and I honestly believe that he would be satisfied with changes being made that lead us to where we need to go whether he is in Prez or not.

When you are a man of principles you don't compromise your principles even if it furthers your agenda. That is the definition of selling out. That's what the tea party did and that's why they are hypocrits.
 
Assuming he wins the nomination, I hope he picks a smart person as VP. Who that is, I don't care but I'd quite like it to be a minority - just to annoy the crap out of the left.

I don't think it would only annoy the left - the whole picking a minority thing would be so transparent these days to anyone with 2 two to too cents.

I'd quite like him to go completely off the reservation and ask Condi Rice. Smart woman and she would be a huge asset to him, and to the country.

That bitch deserves to rot in hell. You think a known liar and traitor to the country should be given power agian? You think a **** that drags us into a decade long war for plunder that is based on outright lies should be given power agian?

Unbelievable.
 
I don't think it would only annoy the left - the whole picking a minority thing would be so transparent these days to anyone with 2 two to too cents.

I'd quite like him to go completely off the reservation and ask Condi Rice. Smart woman and she would be a huge asset to him, and to the country.

That bitch deserves to rot in hell. You think a known liar and traitor to the country should be given power agian? You think a **** that drags us into a decade long war for plunder that is based on outright lies should be given power agian?

Unbelievable.

I think a guy who refers to women as ***** doesn't deserve his opinion to be considered. Waste your breath s0n
 
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Get used to it liberals and neocons. The party is over. Ron Paul is a modern day founding father, and the people are behind him.

Your enthusiasm notwithstanding, he has started the ball rolling, but it will be long after he is cold and in the ground before any real change comes to fruition, if it ever does.
 
I'd quite like him to go completely off the reservation and ask Condi Rice. Smart woman and she would be a huge asset to him, and to the country.

That bitch deserves to rot in hell. You think a known liar and traitor to the country should be given power agian? You think a **** that drags us into a decade long war for plunder that is based on outright lies should be given power agian?

Unbelievable.

I think a guy who refers to women as ***** doesn't deserve his opinion to be considered. Waste your breath s0n

I think that calling her a **** is to good for her. Being dragged behind a truck is more appropriate for someone responsible for 8,500 dead Americans and 40,000 seriously injured.

But then thats the difference between independent thinkers and politically correct sheep.
 
Get your Ron Paul candy bar!
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Founded by two Ron Paul supporters who believe that Ron Paul is truly the Champion of the Constitution and will become the Republican candidate nominee for the 45th President of the United States of America.

Ron Paul Bars are custom made from 100% pure premium milk chocolate ensuring a delightful, sweet taste of Liberty in every bite.


PRESIDENT PAUL!! PRESIDENT PAUL!!! PRESIDENT PAUL!!!
Get used to it liberals and neocons. The party is over. Ron Paul is a modern day founding father, and the people are behind him.

How much of the proceeds actually goes to the campaign?


Anyway, Ron Paul will never be nominated by the GOP. He'll never get enough of the primary vote. He knows this. He knows that people wouldn't vote for him as President because of his age. He knows that centrist and establishment Republicans would vote for Obama or a third party.

He's staying in the campaign to help drive his viewpoint, his agenda, if you will. He's setting the stage for his son to run in the future.
 

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