What if Pakistan goes under?

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    I thought this was an interesting piece in the Sydney Morning Herald:

    Pakistan in danger of collapse
     
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    Pakistan is a basket-case.
     
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    Wotcha Diuretic! How you going mate?

    The situation in Pakistan is indeed something to worry about. If it does go, and there's a more than outside chance that it will, the implications don't bear thinking about. It will pale all other global trouble spots into insignificance. Kilcullen is right. I'm surprised we are not hearing more about this through media channels. It's a subject we often discussed out in the Stan.
     
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    The problem of Afghanistan, and the potential problems with Pakistan may prove more than one administration can handle.

    In Afghanistan, a practically stone-age society, really extends into the mountains of Pakistan. Both have to be dealt with simultaneously, and possibly in the same manner: the nationalist jihadists, like the Tehrik-i-Talibani Pakistan (TTP), have to be divided from the global or caliphate jihadists, like Al Queda.

    This was the successful plan used in Iraq.

    But if the Pakistani government cannot summon up the will, and if the ISI cannot be more nationalistic rather than Islamist, and without the will of the EU to fight, I don't think the US will be able to either control Pakistan nor Afghanistan.

    The wild card is the best local military outside of NATO: the Turks.
     
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    Good here thanks Boot, good to see all okay with you.

    I have to admit I had to read this article twice when I saw it online. 100 nukes in the hands of AQ or the Taleban.
     
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    That's an interesting point. I just wonder if it will come down to NATO and the Russians and their allies going in to stop a terrorist regime taking over in Pakistan. I know that's unlikely and probably completly unrealistic but from what I've read it would appear Pakistan as a state is crumbling.
     
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    Russia has no beef with Pakistan, and didn't care when Khan was handing out nuclear secrets, and look how they behave toward Iran.

    NATO reflects the EU: do nothing.

    Now there is another nuclear power which would be concerned, especially if Pakistan became more fundementalist: India.

    We live in interesting times.
     
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    So that's what I've been doing in Afghanistan. Nothing! Or could it be that you are posting drivel?
     
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    If it goes you could see a nuclear exchange and millions of people killed.
     
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    Don't take it personally.

    My meaning is that among fighting troops the only languages you can hear are English, Polish and, if they're Canadian, French.

    No German, no French-French, no Italian, and the rest of EU talk.

    Feel better?

    God bless and stay safe.
     
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