What I said is Not what i'm saying!!

Discussion in 'Congress' started by Navy1960, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. Navy1960

    Navy1960 Senior Member

    Sep 4, 2008
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    We are locked in a historic struggle in Iraq. On its outcome
    hangs more than the fate of the Iraqi people. Were we to fail,
    which we will not, it is more than 'the power of America' that
    would be defeated. The hope of freedom and religious tolerance
    in Iraq would be snuffed out. Dictators would rejoice; fanatics
    and terrorists would be triumphant. Every nascent strand of
    moderate Arab opinion, knowing full well that the future should
    not belong to fundamentalist religion, would be set back in
    bitter disappointment. Tony Blair April 11th 2004

    Now, I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful
    vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured
    and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain
    his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and
    on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people. Unfortunately, during
    the 1980's, while he engaged in such horrific activity, he enjoyed
    the support of the American government, because he had oil and was
    seen as a counterweight to the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran.
    Hillary Clinton (d) October 10th 2002

    "Once Elected To The Senate, Obama Voted For A Series Of War Funding Measures "
    Chicago Sun Times 1.14.07

    Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden (D-DE) On Obama's
    Iraq Rhetoric: "I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."
    N.Y. Observer 2.25.07

    Mr. Biden: I thank the Chair.

    Mr. President, I will vote for the Lieberman-Warner amendment
    to authorize the use of military force against Iraq. And unlike my colleagues
    from West Virginia and Maryland, I do not believe this is a rush to war. I believe it is a march to peace and security. Joe Biden (d) October 10th 2002

    I have observed in this election the number of people that like to claim now,that George W. Bush and his administration was somehow the only one's along with my fellow republicans in support of the war in 2002. As you can see, at the time, it was not only the republicans that were in support of the War but all different people, both democrat and republican, as well as many in the Parliment in the UK. The difference now though is, between then and now many have somehow forgotten or have omitted or outright lied about that support in order to gain votes with their base. We hear excuse's such as " I didn't read the whole thing, if I had I would not have voted that way", or " George Bush lied to me in order to get me to vote that way" which is complete and utter nonsense.

    You may see I left Barack Obama's name off the commentary, and there is a reason. Barack Obama for those of you who didn't know it, he was not a U.S. Senator at the time and did not vote for S.J. Res. 45A., and by the way the "J" stands for "joint" as in both parties. I agree that at the time their were a few people who did not agree with it. Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd
    to name a few. However, these claims of " I was never for the War in the first place" Joe Biden DNC 08 or "George Bush lied to us " Harry Ried" are completely false and misleading and an effort to win votes based on polls.
    So keep this in mind when you hear the phrase, " America is bad", George Bush is evil" , " We kill innocent people". Take a look at the people your
    supporting too. You may find that they would rather get a vote than win a war?
  2. editec

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

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    Did any of you hear Byrd speaking as we were leading up to the war?

    The man was damned near the only voice of reason in Congress.
  3. strollingbones

    strollingbones Diamond Member

    Aug 18, 2008
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