What History Tells Us About (Tea) Party Revolts

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    From the LINK:

    In modern history - to me, that means during my lifetime - political upheavals have generally been followed by the out party going too far . . . Republicans too far to the right, Democrats too far to the left.

    Here's what I mean:

    In 1960, after John F. Kennedy's election and subsequent death, Lyndon Johnson came to power and caused a sea change in American politics. He launched the Great Society programs, and passed the 1964 Civil Rights bill.

    Republicans responded by throwing out the leaders of their own party who had controlled their party for years and nominated Barry Goldwater - a good man but who was far to the right of the Republican establishment.

    He lost in a landslide.

    After Nixon's sea change election, Democrats purged their party of their long time leaders - even barred them from the 1972 convention - and nominated George McGovern, another good man but who was far to the left of his party.

    Another disaster.

    Once Nixon resigned and caused another sea change, Democrats pushed aside mainstream leaders and chose outsider Jimmy Carter.

    He lasted one term.

    Which brings us to Barack Obama, the sea change he brought to American politics, and in its wake the rise of the Tea Party and its demand to purge the Republican Party of its old-line leaders.

    It's not my business to advise political parties, and I'm sure they know more about politics than I do.

    But if I were a Republican strategist, I might think about recent history and what lessons it might offer.

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    History is Doomed to repeat? If I read this correctly? YOU think the tea party thinking of 'Voting the Incumbents out' is doomed to failure?

    While what the author addresses are candidates for POTUS?

    I'd be interested to see the effects upon the Legislature...Or do we already KNOW the outcome of that...?

    I think the author misses the POINT and addresses just ONE of many issues as to what we see NOW.
     
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    Harding, Coolige, Hoover= Great Depression and Republicans out of power for 20 years

    George Bush= More of the same

    Nuff said
     
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    I've attended a few Tea Party rallies, and I'll tell you the biggest problem I have with the "movement." At the meetings I saw first hand, the group that made up the largest number of attendees were old coots like myself. It would not be as colorful a term as "Tea Party," but I think a more appropriate name might be "AARP Senior Discount Movement!"

    I have to be honest and admit it embarrassed me to see my fellow senior citizens out there supporting candidates who vowed they would keep increasing the quality of life for us old farts at the expense of our kids, grandkids, and great grandkids.

    We seniors are the most affluent segment of society, and we pay, by a wide margin, the least amount of taxes. Perhaps someone can explain to me why the income I earn from capital gains, while sitting on my butt, is taxed at a much lower level than that of my granddaughter and her husband, who have two small children.

    My granddaughter worked mighty hard to get a good job. She is the occupational therapist for our local county school system. However, because of budget cuts, our school system has been forced to impose furlough days for the workers in the local educational system, which amounts to to several thousand dollars in lost salary to her family.

    At the same time, while we are facing these budgetary shortfalls in education, my state legislature pushed through a last minute bill near the end of its last session which said no earnings from retirement earning would face ANY State Taxes! Am I the only one who thinks this is lunacy?
     
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    It appears that you are new here, Papa Jack. Please don't take it personally when all of the "conservatives/real Americans/Patrits/Tea Baggers" begin throwing you under the bus for not drinking their Koolaid.
     
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    I would think someone over 65 should pay Less Tax, after all the probably worked 40+ years and paid a lot of Taxes, after a long life of Paying Taxes do you not think they deserve some breaks in life?

    But you are seriously worried about the fact you pay less tax than you granddaughter, I am sure the IRS would welcome you sending in a check to them for a few thousand extra.
     
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    It seems that you implied some advice--Buckley conservatism--not Bircher extremism.

    Clinton moderation--not Carter Libralism.

    That was a very nice seranade there, buddy. Unfortunately, you are singing to the choir!!
     
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    And you address P O T U S.

    Next.
     
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    Astute. And I think we're going to see some unprecidented uheaval. This time in what we face is going to affect TWO branches of Government presently in power. And NOT just due to a sitting POTUS as the Author seems to suggest.

    We've already seen coming attractions.
     
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    I am 36

    I do not think people over 65 should be taxed!

    It is not because I hate taxes. (Actually, I understand the need for taxes, so it is like a necessary evil to me) It is that after a point, I think the government should leave the elderly alone.

    I mean, The olg geezers are losing their minds, the functionality of their bodies and hoping that they will not go to hell for all the sad things they did in their lives plus the money is going back into the economy after they kick the bucket anyway so let them have a feeble sounding last hurrah before then!!

    What do you guys think?
     

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