What Hilary can teach Sarah Palin

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Thanks for the hysterical laugh. Yeah right, sure, that's what they would have done.

It must be nice to live in your black and white fantasy world where "lefties" are all evil people intent on destroying the country and all of your own folks are upstanding moral citizens who help old ladies onto the bus.

Your mentality reminds me of this quote:

"Do you wish to find out a person's weak points? Note the
failings he has the quickest eye for in others. They may not
be the very failings he is himself guilty of; but they
will be their next-door-neighbors."
--Julius Hare

so can you provide examples of the press leaving people alone because they requested it?

Oh yeah I can see the msm leaving Palin or any other conservative alone because they "REQUESTED" it.

Yeah that will happen.

 

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It must be nice to live in your black and white fantasy world where "lefties" are all evil people intent on destroying the country and all of your own folks are upstanding moral citizens who help old ladies onto the bus.

Your mentality reminds me of this quote:

"Do you wish to find out a person's weak points? Note the
failings he has the quickest eye for in others. They may not
be the very failings he is himself guilty of; but they
will be their next-door-neighbors."
--Julius Hare

Give me a freakin' break. The media went out of their way to tear her apart in every manner possible. You're the one living in fantasy land if you truly believe they would have left her children alone. Don't you read the newpapers, watch tv? You would have to have had your head buried in the sand for the entire campaign cycle to make the comment that you made. Give me a break.

The media tore Palin apart because she made embarrassing dumbass comments throughout the campaign that reflected on her questionable abilities to be VP. Whose fault is that?

We're not talking about her, though, we're talking about her kids. Palin was the one who paraded her whole dysfunctional family in front of the nation so she shouldn't be surprised when someone makes a comment about them. They asked for the attention and they got it so I have no sympathy.

By the way, a certain other comedian said:

Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it -- "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," 9/2/08

Where was the outrage over that joke?

Obama and Biden also made retarded comments and the media couldn't kiss their asses fast enough.

Did you see that video of Obama trying to talk to a crowd without his security blanket aka the teleprompter?

He looked like a total moron.
What about the 57 states.

Christ, Biden can't open his mouth without some utter bullshit dribbling out of it,.

 

[jillian]

Oh yeah I can see the msm leaving Palin or any other conservative alone because they "REQUESTED" it.

Yeah that will happen.

more whining right wing trash....

the MSM doesn't leave ANYONE alone... ask Bill and Hillary Clinton.

That's why your fake outrage is so wacked.

 

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Cheerfulness and Hillary Clinton do not belong in the same sentence.

did that actually relate to anything in this thread? if you use the quote function, perhaps we'll know what you're referring to.

as for Hillary's sense of humor... the people who work with her (dem and repub) tend to like her personally and talk about what a good sense of humor she has.

but whatever....

It did, try reading without the outrage filters.

Oh yeah, her sense of humor is legendary.
sure it is. hahaha!!1

 

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Oh yeah I can see the msm leaving Palin or any other conservative alone because they "REQUESTED" it.

Yeah that will happen.

more whining right wing trash....

the MSM doesn't leave ANYONE alone... ask Bill and Hillary Clinton.

That's why your fake outrage is so wacked.

Honey, I realize that as a lib, intellectual honesty is is not one of your strong suits.

But really...LOL. The media suppressed stories about Obama during the campaign. You do know that right? Hell, he probably didn't even have to ask them.

 

[jillian]

Cheerfulness and Hillary Clinton do not belong in the same sentence.

did that actually relate to anything in this thread? if you use the quote function, perhaps we'll know what you're referring to.

as for Hillary's sense of humor... the people who work with her (dem and repub) tend to like her personally and talk about what a good sense of humor she has.

but whatever....

It did, try reading without the outrage filters.

Oh yeah, her sense of humor is legendary.
sure it is. hahaha!!1

i have no outrage... you just made a comment that had nothing to do with the proceeding comments.

glad you figured out how the quote function works. maybe now we'll know what you're talking about.

as for "legendary"... it's not her job to have a "legendary" sense of humor. she isn't a stand up comedian.

but you might want to chat with the people who worked with her before you make silly comments.

just sayin'.

 

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did that actually relate to anything in this thread? if you use the quote function, perhaps we'll know what you're referring to.

as for Hillary's sense of humor... the people who work with her (dem and repub) tend to like her personally and talk about what a good sense of humor she has.

but whatever....

It did, try reading without the outrage filters.

Oh yeah, her sense of humor is legendary.
sure it is. hahaha!!1

i have no outrage... you just made a comment that had nothing to do with the proceeding comments.

glad you figured out how the quote function works. maybe now we'll know what you're talking about.

as for "legendary"... it's not her job to have a "legendary" sense of humor. she isn't a stand up comedian.

but you might want to chat with the people who worked with her before you make silly comments.

just sayin'.

again, try reading the first post. reading comprehension is your friend.

 

[jillian]

again, try reading the first post. reading comprehension is your friend.

you're new here, so perhaps you don't get it, but it's not anyone's job to go back to the first post to figure out what you're talking about.

thanks for playing.

 

[amrchaos]

Xenophon is right--Palin accomplished more in politics than Hillary.

Now for experience with the Law, Hillary wins. Of course, not all of her experience with the law are good experiences with the law.....

You'd have to be a Republican to attempt comparison of Sara Palin's political career, brief and inconsequential to Hillary Clinton's two successful senatorial campaigns and now her job as secretary of state.

Palin should be in a quiet spot studying, reflecting, so that she can safely open her stupid mouth in a couple of years or so without embarrassing herself and everyone around her. She's an opportunist with nothing to back up her claims that she is good enough to be on a presidential ticket even if it was only with John McCain.

Let's not bother with comparing Hillary with Sarah. Let's take a walk back in time -- to the Democratic primary season.

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Let's be clear. If you're a Democrat, experience isn't on this year's menu. The most experienced among the major candidates seeking the Democratic nomination were Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware and Sen. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut. They have now dropped out. The remaining major candidates—Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.—all lack lengthy records in government.

Edwards served a single term in the Senate. Obama served eight years in the Illinois state Senate and is halfway through his first term in the U.S. Senate. Clinton is about to begin her eighth year in the U.S. Senate. Going by years spent as an elective official, Obama's 11 years exceeds Clinton's seven, which in turn exceeds Edwards' six. But it's a silly calculus. They all come out about the same, even when you factor in Clinton's youthful work on the House judiciary committee's impeachment inquiry, her membership on the board of the Legal Services Corp., her chairmanship of the Arkansas Educational Standards committee, her crafting of an unsuccessful national health-care bill, and her sharing Bill Clinton's bed most nights while he was Arkansas governor and president of the United States.

In Slate's women's blog, the "XX Factor," various colleagues have argued (see here, here, and here) that Clinton has sufficient experience under her belt to be president. I agree, but that's not the right question. The more urgent question is: Where the hell does she come off claiming superior experience? Here Clinton is in the Jan. 14 Newsweek, comparing herself with Obama:

I wish it didn't have to be a choice. I think a lot of people who are torn between us feel that way. But it is a contest, and the contrasts have to be drawn and the questions have to be asked because, obviously, I wouldn't be in this race and working as hard as I am unless I thought I am uniquely qualified at this moment in our history to be the president we need starting in 2009 … I think it is informed by my deep experience over the last 35 years, my firsthand knowledge of what goes on inside a White House.

Oh, please. Thirty-five years takes you back to 1973, half of which Hillary spent in law school, for crying out loud. I don't mean to denigrate her professional experience. Clinton worked many years in corporate and public-interest law, performed advocacy work for the Children's Defense Fund and other groups, and was a university lecturer. She also devoted herself to raising a seemingly bright and loving daughter, which is no small feat, particularly given the public spotlight and some conspicuously bad behavior on the father's part.

But in government, Clinton's chief role over the years has been that of kibitzer. An important kibitzer, to be sure—what spouse isn't?—but not a direct participant. Clinton emphasizes in particular her profound experience in foreign policy. Here she is on Dec. 20:

It is tempting any time things seem quieter for a minute on the international front to think that we don't need a president who's up to speed on foreign affairs and military matters. Well, that's the kind of logic that got us George Bush in the first place. Experience in foreign affairs is critical for ending the war in Iraq, averting war in Iran, negotiating a Middle East peace and dealing with North Korea.

But a Dec. 26 New York Times story revealed that during her husband's two terms in office, Hillary Clinton did not hold a security clearance, did not attend meetings of the National Security Council, and was not given a copy of the president's daily intelligence briefing. During trips to Bosnia and Kosovo, she "acted as a spokeswoman for American interests rather than as a negotiator." On military affairs, most of her experience derives not from her White House years but from serving on the Senate armed services committee. In this capacity, William Kristol notes gleefully in the Jan. 14 New York Times, Clinton told Gen. David Petraeus this past September that his reports of military progress in Iraq—since shown to be undeniable—required "the willing suspension of disbelief." (What Kristol and Clinton both fail to say is that the surge's laudable military success has created a short-term opportunity that the Iraqi government and Bush himself are doing tragically little to seize. For example, a much-touted move by the Iraqi parliament to open government jobs to former members of the Baath party is, according to a Jan. 14 New York Times story, "riddled with loopholes and caveats to the point that some Sunni and Shiite officials say it could actually exclude more former Baathists than it lets back in.")

Clinton's claim to superior experience isn't merely dishonest. It's also potentially dangerous should she become the nominee. If Clinton continues to build her campaign on the dubious foundation of government experience, it shouldn't be very difficult for her GOP opponent to pull that edifice down. That's especially true if a certain white-haired senator now serving his 25th year in Congress (four in the House and 21 in the Senate) wins the nomination. McCain could easily make Hillary look like an absolute fraud who is no more truthful about her depth of government experience than she is about why her mother named her "Hillary." Dennis Kucinich has more government experience than Clinton. (He also has a better health-care plan, but we'll save that for another day.) If Clinton doesn't find a new theme soon, she won't just be cutting Obama's throat. She'll also be cutting her own.

Experience is not one of Hillary Clinton's assets. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

Please, you do not have to tell me about this!! I remember when I was on AOL message board denouncing Clinton and Obama as newbies and endorsing Biden and Kucinich, I was constantly ridiculed.

I even warned that Obama was going to be a political pawn of the Democratic party, with key Legislators holding the power through his ear. Now look--Biden as VP, Clinton at State, Richardson was suppose to be their and Pelosi Reid and their fellow co-horts gaurding his rear in the Congress. All Obama has to do is push their policies at all times.

Heey--when are we leaving Iraq again??

 

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again, try reading the first post. reading comprehension is your friend.

you're new here, so perhaps you don't get it, but it's not anyone's job to go back to the first post to figure out what you're talking about.

thanks for playing.

yeah this is the only message board in the history of the internets.

Don't blame me for your lack of comprehension.