What Have We Done that People Like You Want to Make Us Extinct?

Nope. No need. Such idiotic declarations presented without evidence can also be discarded without evidence.

IF there is no God then man just ended up the top of the food chain and is nothing more than a glorified ape.

And what do we do to animals? We put them in zoos, keep them as pets, use them as beasts of burden, or kill and eat them.

Your only position is to justify treating humans the same or take the road PETA does and treat animals like people. Either approach is unacceptable in my book.

Not true, you can acknowledge differences like degree of sentience, for instance.

I would say that most secular humanists would point to human intelligence as being the difference between ape and man.

If so, what should be done with humans who have the intelligence of an ape?

This is why they want to kill those with Downs.

Who wants to kill living people who have Downs?

I see nothing wrong with genetic testing of fetuses or with terminating the pregnancy of a child who will have deformities or be mentally retarded
Hitlerian solution for Downs. Shame on you pig.

Fuck you.

If you want a retarded or deformed child then be my guest.
 
You are trying to lead the Forum away from ussues touched upon. All these liberalistic "freedoms" are no more than slogans, for which there is no real reinforcement. And the US is no exception. As one friend of mine said, "in order to take advantage of our freedoms, we need a lot of money." The ordinary Americans do not have them ... I would prefer an analysis and discussion on the text of my appeal - paragraph by paragraph. For example, about the "God's election" of the American people. About how many millions of non-Jews we killed. Cryptonezionism



History has a nagging tendency to repeat itself.

Oh yeah? And what does history say about aspiring autocrats who want to diminish free press, lock up reporters, claim they are above the law, and hold campaign-style rallies constantly?

All these arguments are of "liberalictic" nature. I am talking about the nation that KILLS other peope if they are not the "chosen" ones and you are talking about "rallies". Do you have an idea HOW MANY millions of people have Americans killed within these 300 years??? Saying "God blessed America"

And I am talking about nations that elect aspiring autocrats who want to limit the freedom of press and create "alternative facts". You are sidestepping.
Few ignorant Alt-Rights still claim Nazis were Liberal.
The eugenics movement came out of the left. No one can deny that. Yes Nazis are left.
Like I said, ignorant folks say Nazis were Liberal.
Nazis are socialists....lefties. If you think Hitler believed in individual rights over government control, you're the ignorant one here.
 
Few ignorant Alt-Rights still claim Nazis were Liberal.
The eugenics movement came out of the left. No one can deny that. Yes Nazis are left.
Like I said, ignorant folks say Nazis were Liberal.
Nazis are socialists....lefties. If you think Hitler believed in individual rights over government control, you're the ignorant one here.

As an elimination of political illiteracy of some Forum participants. "Nazis" is ANY people who declare their superiority over other peoples and and who claim the exclusive right to rule the world. If you listen attentively to what most American politicians say, you will understand that their statements are NAZI ...
 
Not really. 1920's abortion was still a pretty dangerous procedure before antibiotics and specialized equipment.

It still is dangerous. A successful abortion always results in the death of an innocent human being.

It's kinda like safe sex.

LMAO!

I heard of one father whose daughter at school obtained help to get an abortion and bled to death.

In school, kids can't so much as have an aspirin without a parent's approval, but could do this without them knowing and the parents had no legal recourse.
 
Not really. 1920's abortion was still a pretty dangerous procedure before antibiotics and specialized equipment.

It still is dangerous. A successful abortion always results in the death of an innocent human being.

It's kinda like safe sex.

LMAO!

I heard of one father whose daughter at school obtained help to get an abortion and bled to death.

In school, kids can't so much as have an aspirin without a parent's approval, but could do this without them knowing and the parents had no legal recourse.
So parents should force a daughter to give birth to an unwanted baby?
 
It still is dangerous. A successful abortion always results in the death of an innocent human being.

Fetuses still aren't people.... no matter how much you nutters want them to be.

I heard of one father whose daughter at school obtained help to get an abortion and bled to death.

Yeah, probably up there with the guy who woke up in a bathtub full of ice and found his kidney missing. Abortion has never been safer for women. It's safer than actual childbirth.
 
Not really. 1920's abortion was still a pretty dangerous procedure before antibiotics and specialized equipment.

It still is dangerous. A successful abortion always results in the death of an innocent human being.

It's kinda like safe sex.

LMAO!

I heard of one father whose daughter at school obtained help to get an abortion and bled to death.

In school, kids can't so much as have an aspirin without a parent's approval, but could do this without them knowing and the parents had no legal recourse.
So parents should force a daughter to give birth to an unwanted baby?

Did I say that? Parents should at least be informed dolt.
 
Not really. 1920's abortion was still a pretty dangerous procedure before antibiotics and specialized equipment.

It still is dangerous. A successful abortion always results in the death of an innocent human being.

It's kinda like safe sex.

LMAO!

I heard of one father whose daughter at school obtained help to get an abortion and bled to death.

In school, kids can't so much as have an aspirin without a parent's approval, but could do this without them knowing and the parents had no legal recourse.
Probably an illegal abortion. Women used to bleed to death often from back alley abortions.
 
This is mind numbingly stupid.

Could you be a little bit more specific?

Nope. No need. Such idiotic declarations presented without evidence can also be discarded without evidence.

IF there is no God then man just ended up the top of the food chain and is nothing more than a glorified ape.

And what do we do to animals? We put them in zoos, keep them as pets, use them as beasts of burden, or kill and eat them.

Your only position is to justify treating humans the same or take the road PETA does and treat animals like people. Either approach is unacceptable in my book.

Not true, you can acknowledge differences like degree of sentience, for instance.

There are differences among the animal species. So what?

The question becomes, what distinguishes humans from the animal species that we should not be treated like animals?

What say you?

The degree of sentience.Not all animals should be treated the same, either. But I am generally in agreement with PETA, on most things.
 
Few ignorant Alt-Rights still claim Nazis were Liberal.
The eugenics movement came out of the left. No one can deny that. Yes Nazis are left.
Like I said, ignorant folks say Nazis were Liberal.
Nazis are socialists....lefties. If you think Hitler believed in individual rights over government control, you're the ignorant one here.
Nazis are neither socialists nor lefties. You sound like an idiot.
 
Fetuses still aren't people.... no matter how much you nutters want them to be.

History is littered with perpetrators of horrendous mass murders and other major human rights violations, who tried to justify their crimes by denying the humanity of their victims.

You are no better than any of them.

And some people just think it's the mother's choice, acknowledging the humanity of the mother.
 
History is littered with perpetrators of horrendous mass murders and other major human rights violations, who tried to justify their crimes by denying the humanity of their victims.

You are no better than any of them.

Buddy, history has never considered fetuses to be people.

Nobody has every lost their shit over a miscarriage the way they lose their shit when an actual child dies.
 

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