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This would be FAR more effective than a wall.
If they can't get hired here and make a living for themselves, then they won't come.
If the person sneaking across the border to work is the only problem, I could agree. I figure the ones who really want to sneak across are the gang members, drug carriers, and people with records that wouldn't be allowed in under normal conditions.
Mark
This would be FAR more effective than a wall.
If they can't get hired here and make a living for themselves, then they won't come.
If the person sneaking across the border to work is the only problem, I could agree. I figure the ones who really want to sneak across are the gang members, drug carriers, and people with records that wouldn't be allowed in under normal conditions.
Mark
I think most of them are just looking for work. I think most of the drugs are getting in through the ports.
I'm all for spending money on additional border agents, better technology, and penalizing people who hire illegal immigrants. A big stupid expensive wall isn't going to be anywhere near as effective as those changes.
Well then we sure shouldn't be punishing illegals either thenOur immigration quota system is fucked up, and farmers should not be paying the price for that.
Americans are not going to leave their tract houses, climb into their commuter cars, and drive 200 miles to pick strawberries one week, then drive 150 miles to pick blueberries the next. No matter how much you pay them, Americans won't ever do it.
It's called MIGRANT labor for a reason.
Immigrant labor is a sign of prosperity. Every prosperous country throughout history and around the world has had a migrant labor force to do the shit jobs.
If a farmer needs 100 strawberry pickers, and the US quota system only provides him with 20, you can't blame him if he makes up the difference with illegal labor, and he should not be punished for it.
Now they are screaming that those that employ illegals should be arrested?
This would be FAR more effective than a wall.
If they can't get hired here and make a living for themselves, then they won't come.
If the person sneaking across the border to work is the only problem, I could agree. I figure the ones who really want to sneak across are the gang members, drug carriers, and people with records that wouldn't be allowed in under normal conditions.
Mark
I think most of them are just looking for work. I think most of the drugs are getting in through the ports.
I'm all for spending money on additional border agents, better technology, and penalizing people who hire illegal immigrants. A big stupid expensive wall isn't going to be anywhere near as effective as those changes.
Its amazing to me that walls work everywhere but on our southern border.
Mark
It doesn't seem like conservatives want to go after the people who hire illegal workers. Why is that?
If you take away their incentive to come here, then they won't come here. And it's not even hard if we push e-verify harder.
I think farmers and hotels would probably take the biggest hit from this. But do we want them here or not? This would be waaaay more effective than a wall.
It doesn't seem like conservatives want to go after the people who hire illegal workers. Why is that?
If you take away their incentive to come here, then they won't come here. And it's not even hard if we push e-verify harder.
I think farmers and hotels would probably take the biggest hit from this. But do we want them here or not? This would be waaaay more effective than a wall.
We did this already...we determined that most of you are full of shit.
You pissed yourselves and called for an abolishment of iCE when they were dropping the hammer on businesses...Remember now?
Would Democrats really vote to remove all incentives for illegals?
the only crisis is the one Trump manufactured and the only wall that’s real is the one closing in on him.
Same people under a different name Moron. INSICE didn't exist before 2003. You were probably still sucking your thumb back then.I have not heard anything from him on this.
But maybe I missed it.
Can anyone please tell me what specifically - if anything - has Trump done to strongly, increase penalties to Americans who hire illegal workers?
Weren’t you bleeding heart, wetback loving wackos pissing your panties in your straight jackets when iCE was raiding businesses?
Yup. They sure were. They were shouting that ICE should be abolished.
Now they are screaming that those that employ illegals should be arrested?? I wonder who they think will be doing the arresting?? ICE maybe.
ICE came into being via the Patriot Act.
So, gee, genius, why don't you see if your pointy head can do some heavy lifting and figure out who was doing the arresting before that.
Our immigration quota system is fucked up, and farmers should not be paying the price for that.
Americans are not going to leave their tract houses, climb into their commuter cars, and drive 200 miles to pick strawberries one week, then drive 150 miles to pick blueberries the next. No matter how much you pay them, Americans won't ever do it.
It's called MIGRANT labor for a reason.
Immigrant labor is a sign of prosperity. Every prosperous country throughout history and around the world has had a migrant labor force to do the shit jobs.
If a farmer needs 100 strawberry pickers, and the US quota system only provides him with 20, you can't blame him if he makes up the difference with illegal labor, and he should not be punished for it.
I don't think the US quota system should provide him with any.
If he cannot make money hiring only Americans - he should grow something else OR turn to automation.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Robotic fruit pickers promise labor saving
But they say they are for Border Security. ..........ummmm.........Right?Newsome, the new Dim imbecile governor of California wants to give free healthcare to illegals. Gee Wally, that's bound to slow or stop illegals from breaking in.
California gov candidate backs universal healthcare for undocumented immigrants
Those aiding and abetting the criminals from the Democratic Party.I have not heard anything from him on this.
But maybe I missed it.
Can anyone please tell me what specifically - if anything - has Trump done to strongly, increase penalties to Americans who hire illegal workers?
Many many criminal aliens. Criminals, criminals, criminals. That's all we hear.
Most of those are guilty of one misdemeanor count of entering illegally.
Those who employ them are guilty of hundreds if not thousands of counts over the years of knowingly employing illegals. Not to mention tax fraud.
Who's the real criminals?
Congress has written several that did this............but they were never given the light of day...........Tell me how he can do this when the Congress and Senate will not do it.............hmmmTrump can't write legislation imbecile.
Even if he could the pieces of shit you vote for would reject it.
Are you fucking stupid? He can ask for legislation - can he not? He had two years of having the Reps control both houses, moron. He has asked for healthcare, legislation, infrastructure legislation, etc. So why the fuck can he not ask for tougher penalties for those who hire illegals, dumb ass?
And where EXACTLY did he publicly ask/demand that they write legislation to strongly punish those who hire illegals, Trumpbot? Where on the campaign trail did he say he would do it? Hell...where is the tweet that he even mentioned it?
Show me that dickhead...if you can?
And if you bothered to read my sig, you would see I despise both major parties. So obviously I did not vote for either one...DUH.
I have not heard anything from him on this.
Can anyone please tell me what specifically - if anything - has Trump done to strongly, increase penalties to Americans who hire illegal workers?
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Weren’t you bleeding heart, wetback loving wackos pissing your panties in your straight jackets when iCE was raiding businesses?
The only change to this wording might be changing "federal govt" to society.Like the duopoly would ever do that!
Those fuckers love cheap labor.
Republicans might talk the talk but they dont walk the walk. They dont want lose their precious contributors like the chamber of commerce.
Trump should bring this up front and center.
Of course, this is part of an actual fix, so i doubt he would.
The federal govt doesnt believe in solutions
You are right. However if that person works the low level job and goes home to ten people using social welfare benefits to live it kind of defeats the system. But we do need low level immigrants and that is the truth.Our immigration quota system is fucked up, and farmers should not be paying the price for that.
Americans are not going to leave their tract houses, climb into their commuter cars, and drive 200 miles to pick strawberries one week, then drive 150 miles to pick blueberries the next. No matter how much you pay them, Americans won't ever do it.
It's called MIGRANT labor for a reason.
Immigrant labor is a sign of prosperity. Every prosperous country throughout history and around the world has had a migrant labor force to do the shit jobs.
If a farmer needs 100 strawberry pickers, and the US quota system only provides him with 20, you can't blame him if he makes up the difference with illegal labor, and he should not be punished for it.
ZERO migrant workers should be allowed into America.
