what has obama done that makes him a better POTUS than bush?

[xsited1]

It's funny watching the Obama apologists in this thread. All they can say is "Bush this" and "Bush that!" They'll follow Obama off a cliff. Here's how I think of them:

 

[JimH52]

How about he hasn't started two wars that he couldn't pay for? Now, add all the lives and billions of dollars that has cost the US and I think History will remember him for NOT being an idiot.

 

[xsited1]

How about he hasn't started two wars that he couldn't pay for? Now, add all the lives and billions of dollars that has cost the US and I think History will remember him for NOT being an idiot.

History will show whether Bush was right or wrong. I think it's a bit too early to decide. But this is certainly better than most of the other Leftist posts I've seen. Unfortunately, Obama still hasn't pulled the US out of Iraq, he has escalated the war in Afghanistan, and he's made America look weak. In the end, that could be even worse.

 

[HUGGY]

Not capturing Ossama Bin Ladin in the mountains of Tora Bora when we had him surrounded made The United States look weak. The decision to leave his capture up to the taliban that were assisting our troops on the ground therefore letting him slip out of there made us look stupid and weak. Oh and it obviously endangered the free world as Bush was so fond of doing. Can't be a fear monger if ya catch the boogy man ..now can ya?

That will not take any more time to digest. That was Bush being Bush 9 years ago. Or is there some new information about that incident that you might like to share with us?

 

[xsited1]

Not capturing Ossama Bin Ladin in the mountains of Tora Bora when we had him surrounded made The United States look weak. The decision to leave his capture up to the taliban that were assisting our troops on the ground therefore letting him slip out of there made us look stupid and weak. Oh and it obviously endangered the free world as Bush was so fond of doing. Can't be a fear monger if ya catch the boogy man ..now can ya?

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Obama is doing what Bush did. Good for him!

 

[Harry Dresden]

Are you claiming McCain could have won if Obama was white?

Republicans at all levels of government were voted out of office in 2008. This was because of the collapsing economy, not because all these elections had one candidate who was white and the other was black.

no she isnt saying that....how many threads have i seen in here were dipshits like Political Junky are saying that the right opposes Obama because the Republicans have problems with a black man in charge.....never mind you just might disagree with what he wants to do...its all because he is black....that is what Zoom is saying...

 

[JScott]

It's funny watching the Obama apologists in this thread. All they can say is "Bush this" and "Bush that!" They'll follow Obama off a cliff. Here's how I think of them:

I dont really get into he said, she said arguments but, like you, I think its also funny watching Bush apologists deflect truth. You cant point at someone and bitch about what they did while you sat idly by and allowed someone else to do just as much.

Thats called hypocrisy.

 

[JScott]

Not capturing Ossama Bin Ladin in the mountains of Tora Bora when we had him surrounded made The United States look weak. The decision to leave his capture up to the taliban that were assisting our troops on the ground therefore letting him slip out of there made us look stupid and weak. Oh and it obviously endangered the free world as Bush was so fond of doing. Can't be a fear monger if ya catch the boogy man ..now can ya?

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Obama is doing what Bush did. Good for him!

You cant capture someone the size of Afghanistan with 50,000 troops.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You know that Obama being black cost him more votes than helped him. All you have to do is asked the base of the Confederate Republican Party of Teabags.

Why can't the right ever be honest? Just once. Say the truth, "We don't like Obama because he's black".

Without a doubt, it is this sort of material that makes Republicans look bad on issues of race. Republicans have been trying, particularly at the highest levels, to recruit minority support. There has been a very limited response. It is things like these that make those high-level efforts ineffective.
"Obama Bucks" and Republican Women: A Denouncement | Red County

Just say what you feel! You'll get more respect.

see what im saying Rw....Rdean will take what some assholes say....and of course in his bigoted tiny mind....EVERY one who voted against Obama is like this...and of course the other Far-left dipshit Political Sphincter gives him a big thanks.....with assholes like this in your party you will never get people like me to agree with what you guys want.....get rid of these freaks and maybe i would be susceptible to hear ya....until then the Democrats Party can go with the OTHER fucked up party who has people like PI in there....and go fuck themselves....

 

[rightwinger]

It's funny watching the Obama apologists in this thread. All they can say is "Bush this" and "Bush that!" They'll follow Obama off a cliff. Here's how I think of them:

I happen to think the cartoon is appropriate...

Bush was handed a supercarrier and left a sinking ship for Obama to somehow save.

Obama has been steadily patching the leaks and has put us on the right course

 

[Harry Dresden]

Nothing. I wasn't impressed with Bush, but at least he didn't have to f- with stuff just to be f-ing with it.

Obama on the other hand is trying to turn the US into another mediocre, socialist Euro-state.

The US could never be destroyed from without. It IS being destroyed from within.

and that Gunny is what OBL said about the US 10 years ago....."we cant defeat them militarily,but they can be defeated from within"......he lived here....he knows what he is talking about....

 

[rightwinger]

You know that Obama being black cost him more votes than helped him. All you have to do is asked the base of the Confederate Republican Party of Teabags.

Why can't the right ever be honest? Just once. Say the truth, "We don't like Obama because he's black".

Without a doubt, it is this sort of material that makes Republicans look bad on issues of race. Republicans have been trying, particularly at the highest levels, to recruit minority support. There has been a very limited response. It is things like these that make those high-level efforts ineffective.
"Obama Bucks" and Republican Women: A Denouncement | Red County

Just say what you feel! You'll get more respect.

see what im saying Rw....Rdean will take what some assholes say....and of course in his bigoted tiny mind....EVERY one who voted against Obama is like this...and of course the other Far-left dipshit Political Sphincter gives him a big thanks.....with assholes like this in your party you will never get people like me to agree with what you guys want.....get rid of these freaks and maybe i would be susceptible to hear ya....until then the Democrats Party can go with the OTHER fucked up party who has people like PI in there....and go fuck themselves....

Sadly, many of those same assholes paste the same racist crap on this site day in/ day out. No, they don't reflect the vast majority of Conservatives. But they are a significant part of the rightwing voting block

 

[WillowTree]

How about he hasn't started two wars that he couldn't pay for? Now, add all the lives and billions of dollars that has cost the US and I think History will remember him for NOT being an idiot.

He hasn't stopped then either as he promised to do.. he in fact has escalated Afghanistan.. for what? for nothing.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Actually, Bush touched the "gay" issue twice. Once when he was campaigning for his "first" term and second, when he was campaigning for his "second" term. Both times, he promised a constitutional amendment. Then, once the sheep believed the lie, he turned his sights on golf or chopping wood or Jeff Gannon or kissing Arabs on the lips and holding hands.

like that is any different than anybody else campaigning dumbass....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Seriously it is a difficult comparison. Bush started out with a huge surplus and no international involvements. Obama stepped into a huge deficite and a death spiral of an economy and two wars..

What would an Obama have done with Bushes start? What would Bush have done with the conditions of Obamas start?

It is impossible to gauge. Based on how Bush handled the situation and advantages he inherited I would venture that by this point we would be the passengers on the Titanic.

Obama having a surplus and great economy would not have the crisis to do health care ...at least a better regulated economy ...we may not have had the wall st collapse ...it is just to hard to know if a smart guy could have done any better than the baffoon.

How would Obama have handled 9/11. I mean after telling everyone that's just "Americas chickens coming home to roost"?

This is going to be hard for you to swallow but keeping in the vein of serious....

I doubt there would have been 9/11 if Obama had been elected instead of Bush. Not a 30 ish year old Obama of course .... but the one we have now.

Unlike many I lean towards what Ossama said was his reasoning for the attack. Bushes daddy was the guy that put the Air Force base in Saudi Arabia that Ossama believed was defiling his holy land. Right or wrong ..from our standpoint..obviously wrong..that was his motivation. With Obamas prediliction to listen before he acts ... My guess is that he might have diffused some of Ossamas effect.

Bush was warned many times and arrogantly ignored the warnings. I honestly believe Obama is several levels of intelligent above Bush and would have at least looked into the specific warnings of attacks by airplaness being hatched.

If .... somehow even Obama and the rest of the gobmint dropped the ball I doubt Obama would have foolishly rushed us into a war. I am sure he would have assembled Seals and Ranger teams and gone into Afgahnistan and wiped out the elements of Al Quiada that caused the attack. That is what an Intelligent president should have done. That is what happened to Tim McVeih and The Blind Shiek on the attempted destruction by bombing of the towers.

It is hard to look back and know what would have..could have..should have..been done by whom. America had not just fucking had enough of idiots running things. In my opinion we would have never elected Obama in good times.

I can't believe you stuffed so much bullshit and so many Dem Talking points into a few paragraphs.

Bush was warned? About what? How many times can we go over the same ground?

Obama would have assembled a Seal Team, and done what? How do you go after the Taliban and AQ in Afghanistan with just Seal teams and Army Rangers? Do you like getting our people killed needlessly?

Good thing the attacks have stopped since the start of the Obama Reich. Good thing Just don't count Ft Hood, Alabama ROTC, Underwear Bomber and Times Square and Obama has a perfect track record

 

[HUGGY]

Not capturing Ossama Bin Ladin in the mountains of Tora Bora when we had him surrounded made The United States look weak. The decision to leave his capture up to the taliban that were assisting our troops on the ground therefore letting him slip out of there made us look stupid and weak. Oh and it obviously endangered the free world as Bush was so fond of doing. Can't be a fear monger if ya catch the boogy man ..now can ya?

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Obama is doing what Bush did. Good for him!

You cant capture someone the size of Afghanistan with 50,000 troops.

We had him asshat...Reinforcement requests were denied and our guys were told to stand down.

At least TRY to know what you are flapping your pie hole about!

 

[JimH52]

You know that Obama being black cost him more votes than helped him. All you have to do is asked the base of the Confederate Republican Party of Teabags.

Why can't the right ever be honest? Just once. Say the truth, "We don't like Obama because he's black".

Without a doubt, it is this sort of material that makes Republicans look bad on issues of race. Republicans have been trying, particularly at the highest levels, to recruit minority support. There has been a very limited response. It is things like these that make those high-level efforts ineffective.
"Obama Bucks" and Republican Women: A Denouncement | Red County

Just say what you feel! You'll get more respect.

see what im saying Rw....Rdean will take what some assholes say....and of course in his bigoted tiny mind....EVERY one who voted against Obama is like this...and of course the other Far-left dipshit Political Sphincter gives him a big thanks.....with assholes like this in your party you will never get people like me to agree with what you guys want.....get rid of these freaks and maybe i would be susceptible to hear ya....until then the Democrats Party can go with the OTHER fucked up party who has people like PI in there....and go fuck themselves....

Right! Nope, nothing racist or bigoted here! Next...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sadly, many of those same assholes paste the same racist crap on this site day in/ day out. No, they don't reflect the vast majority of Conservatives. But they are a significant part of the rightwing voting block

as people like Dean,Zona and Political dipshit represent a significant part of the leftwing voting block.....especially in my State....which should be a lesson for everyone else in this country....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Right! Nope, nothing racist or bigoted here! Next...

point out whats rascist asshole or keep your fucking mouth shut...your just another lowlife far-leftist like your butt buddy Dean....

 

[JScott]

Obama is doing what Bush did. Good for him!

You cant capture someone the size of Afghanistan with 50,000 troops.

We had him asshat...Reinforcement requests were denied and our guys were told to stand down.

At least TRY to know what you are flapping your pie hole about!

Why you getting your panties in a knot for? What am I missing?

The 50,000, sometimes 30,000 troops stationed in Afghanistan for 8 years that couldnt do their job? Whats there to miss?