what has obama done that makes him a better POTUS than bush?

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    i thought bush was a terrible pres for the most part, although i did vote for him in 2000 because he wasn't al gore. i voted lib in 2004 and in 2008 i didn't vote for POTUS at all.

    if you support pres obama,please tell me why you feel he's a better pres than bush was. from where i sit, it's more business as usual, and if anything, it's more cynical than usual, too.
     
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    It's going to take some creativity for this thread. :)
     
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    perhaps, but it's a sincere question.

    for a change :)
     
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    Unlike Bush Obama is going to go through the budget with a fine toothed comb just like her promised
     
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    Yeah, then he is throwing more money on the pile and letting his special interests fight for it.
     
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    "if you support pres obama..."
    Well, if you will allow me to infract your rule, as I do not support the President, I would like to offer a suggestion as to why many support[ed] him.

    Skin color.

    The desire to feel good about themselves, and cast off what is seen as the racist aspect of American history.

    Richard Brookhiser has an excellent essay some years back that explored this aspect of elements of the electorate.

    Brookhiser wrote an essay characterizing the left’s depiction, as follows:
    “Who is the Numinous Negro? He is everywhere, especially in our hearts, and if we are lucky he is our friend. The Numinous Negro is a presiding divinity. The place he presides over is America, and contact with him elevates us spiritually. You see him in the gooey prose of white liberals whenever a Negro appears….The saintly Death Row hero of The Green Mile was so Numinous that even movie reviewers noticed the technique…
    liberalism is a secular faith concerned to remedy what political scientist Kenneth Minogue called “suffering situations.”
    The Numinous Negro - Flashback - National Review Online
     
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    Seriously it is a difficult comparison. Bush started out with a huge surplus and no international involvements. Obama stepped into a huge deficite and a death spiral of an economy and two wars..

    What would an Obama have done with Bushes start? What would Bush have done with the conditions of Obamas start?

    It is impossible to gauge. Based on how Bush handled the situation and advantages he inherited I would venture that by this point we would be the passengers on the Titanic.

    Obama having a surplus and great economy would not have the crisis to do health care ...at least a better regulated economy ...we may not have had the wall st collapse ...it is just to hard to know if a smart guy could have done any better than the baffoon.
     
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    Simply the fact that Bush started with a huge surplus and no international involvements and we ended up with huge deficit and a death spiral of an economy and two wars tells the story.

    These are observations that those on the right will desperately REFUSE to acknowledge. What will happen is the thread will continue with those points being ignored or the thread will just die with someone starting another, "Obama is really the grandson of Adolf Hitler" thread.
     
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    Seriously PC, Skin Color was the reason Obama was elected?

    Did you miss out on the last ten years? The 2006 congressional election was a referendum on the idiocy of the Iraq War. Republicans at all levels were voted out of office and Donald Rumsfeld paid with his job.

    The 2008 election was about the economy. Since 2007, the economy had been in a freefall and the Republicans denied it right up to the election. Remember "The economy is fundamentally strong" from McCain? If skin color were the only reason for Obamas election, why were Republican Congressmen, Senators and Governors also voted out of office? Were they the wrong skin color too?
     
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    Wait, so the left can claim that people who are opposed to Obama do so because they object to his skin color but . . . . no one voted for Obama because of his skin color? Bullshit.
     
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