CDZ What Has Happened to the Ds?

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  1. william the wie
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    TOS with his post is a great illustration of my point
     
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    No over reactions.

    The Democrats got more votes in the Presidential election than the Republicans. Their votes were more poorly placed. They did a poor job of motivating their voters "in the right places" to show up. It may be because Trump had better numbers people in his campaign. Which Obama campaign got all the attention because they really hit the right voters.....

    I do admit I thought Donald was not much of a candidate, Hillary is difficult to like though and the D's Old Boys Club just wasn't willing to go as far as to nominate Bernie. It was a very interesting election and the squeeze on the working class man though 8 years of Obama, be it Obama's fault, the time of man, or whatever killed the D's. Personally I blame Obama and the D's for not helping the working class enough and being too like the R's in many regards. Then Trump came in with rhetoric which won over many working class voters who I can't blame if they thought, "we may as well try this guy".

    The D's have not been as organized a party as the R's for most of my life IMO. Good? Bad? I really don't like political parties as none supports my every political whim and I refuse to get hung up rooting for a political team like a cheerleader in a skirt does.

    National disgrace? Zimbabwe or Venezuela? I think we had another thread where you came out pretty biased towards the R's. As a non-member of either I say there is plenty of disgrace to be shared between the D's and the R's.
     
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    Somebody busted up the establishment party and completely by-passed the media's influence for once. Now all the usual criminals and their adoring fans are all upset and don't know what to do, and some are horrified at not being told what they should do.

    What you should do is keep voting for indies like Trump, basically a middle of the road moderate who ran on a major party's ticket and won. This sort of upset is impossible in the Democratic Party, so it's very simple: never vote for the Democratic candidate, period, at least until they toss out that Neo-Nazi 'Super-Delegate Rule' scam the organized crime syndicates dreamed up to make sure they never lose control. And screw paying attention to the MSM at all; they have less than zero credibility, we all saw that last year, utterly shameless lying and fake news, and still at it, so of course only idiots, deviants, and sickos are trying to peddle the 'talking points' now, most of whom need to be deported, something Thomas Jefferson would have done for the good of the country.

    the right things to do are immediately obvious. No need to make it look hard or anything. It's just time to throw out the trash who hate this country, and launch a long term anti-corruption campaign, or just perish. Singapore and others have done so successfully, so there is no real excuse for the U.S. not to, and do so before it gets too weak to defend itself and falls to the predators circling around waiting to pick our bones, as they always are.
     
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    come back after the next mid terms and mention this.

    The parties swing back and fourth. Those swings are getting worse but they are ever present. They are going to be saying the same things about the right in 4 years.
     
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    The current sex scandal plague is hitting the left harder and Mueller is trying to get out in front of the Uranium scandal which means even more bad news for the left. Sessions and Trump are declassifying damaging Democratic documents at a break neck speed which is not good for the Ds. So, I suspect you are right both parties are going to be much more extreme two years from now. The reigns of terror and virtue will avoid the guillotine but other than that it is going to be one for the record books.
     
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    The Trump supporters are the future of the GOP and the RINO Establishment is going to be potty trained and taught how to fetch them their gawd damned beers for the rest of their lives.
     
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    Don't agree. Trump supporters have no future. They are angry and want to burn down everything. It is easier to burn down something than it is to build something that will last. Once they realize they need to operate in an established set of laws, rules, procedures, etc. they will become the 'establishment'. In religious terms, Trump is leading the cult but to survive him it must evolve into a religion.
     
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    I dunno William, given your anti-D quote in that other topic I think you should look and see what colored glasses you are seeing the world through. If you get a new screen name I won't know who you are and will probably dig further into what you say.
     
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    Well, let's hope so. They threw over $30 million at keeping Moore out of the Senate, they still have big bucks to target small races with, so we'll see if they can be rolled back in the mid-terms. The amount of money the 'globalist' racketeers like the DNC and RNC can throw around is truly staggering.
     
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    Really?

    The sex scandal is about to cost the right a senate seat. I doubt Frankin is going to have to resin. Even if he does, the scandal is hitting the right far more than the left because of the position that More has placed the party itself in.
     

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